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Yes. Euphemia is wrong. But she's not the only one - fundamentalist pastors have been preaching anti-Catholicism from the pulpits for centuries. Those people you see on TV aren't praying TO Mary, they are asking Mary to pray FOR them which is called intercessory prayer, and it is no different than asking a family member or friend to pray for you.

I am not wrong at all. The truth is preached from good pulpits and in the streets and in homes and has been since the beginning. Your understanding on intercession is one that has been twisted to adhere to the very unbiblical traditions we are talking about.
 
It's not just a matter of going to Scriptures, because you and I read the same passages, you hold a different interpretation than I do. Wouldn't it be silly for me to say to you "You don't believe in transubstantiation? Go to the Bible and see for yourself!" You'd argue back that I am misinterpreting the text.

So we have to go further than that and figure out what the text means and who is right and who is wrong.

Ask Holy Spirit to reveal the truth of any matter to you---wait, and see what He tells you. Study the bible for yourself, prayerfully, rather than adhering to truths taught from religion. Let Holy Spirit teach you.
 
So what Euphemia posted about Catholics is wrong? I've heard some of these things. Plus I've seen church groups on TV pray to Mary and the angel Michael. Unless they're misrepresenting the catholic church.
I recommend getting Catholicism information directly from Lysander. Don't get it from a non-Catholic or worse, an anti-Catholic.
 
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Ask Holy Spirit to reveal the truth of any matter to you---wait, and see what He tells you. Study the bible for yourself, prayerfully, rather than adhering to truths taught from religion. Let Holy Spirit teach you.

I don't mean to sound rude...but how do you think I came from Protestantism to Catholicism?

Now I am not claiming that I now know everything...no one does...seeking truth is a lifelong process...but I'm not going to say I was careless.
 
I don't mean to sound rude...but how do you think I came from Protestantism to Catholicism?

Like most who do---compromise, or because they seek the false security of salvation by works, and the attraction of religious pomp and ceremony. My opinion...not trying to be rude, either.
 
One last thing - and I address this to Patricia - Euphemia is wrong about intercessory prayer being unbiblical. It is found in the book of James. James 5:16 to be precise.
 
Like most who do---compromise, or because they seek the false security of salvation by works, and the attraction of religious pomp and ceremony. My opinion...not trying to be rude, either.

Well no, I would have no need to compromise. Actually I was at quite a lot of risk by doing this.

Becoming Catholic for security of salvation by works is not only what the Church teaches, but would continue to not make sense even if that were the case because how could I even feel secure in my works? I would feel more secure in becoming a Calvinist in fact.

If it was simply that I would want something fancy, I'd become an Episcopalian or a Lutheran.

I know you don't mean to be rude, but you have made a bad judgment call. You haven't asked, you've assumed. Is that fair?
 
Well no, I would have no need to compromise. Actually I was at quite a lot of risk by doing this.

Becoming Catholic for security of salvation by works is not only what the Church teaches, but would continue to not make sense even if that were the case because how could I even feel secure in my works? I would feel more secure in becoming a Calvinist in fact.

The Lord doesn't teach it.

If it was simply that I would want something fancy, I'd become an Episcopalian or a Lutheran.

I know you don't mean to be rude, but you have made a bad judgment call. You haven't asked, you've assumed. Is that fair?

My assumptions may not fit your circumstance, but they are based on many a decision to add religion to the unfettered walk with Jesus.
 
@Euphemia @LysanderShapiro @PeaceLikeaRiver @Major @Huntingteckel @KingJ So, the other day I was walking around in the dark. All of the sudden there was this skunk in front of me, his hair and tail were sticking up. I froze, "Please don't spray me, please don't spray me." Finally it started moving again, but it was moving the same way I needed to go. So I tried to walk slower, but he thought I was following him, so he slowed down. Then I slowed down. He looked at me, and his tail shot back up. I took a few steps back. Then after about 20 seconds, maybe 35 seconds, the skunk started moving again. Have any of you guys ever been sprayed by a skunk? How bad is it really?
 
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Euphemia, if you are curious abut why I became a Catholic, just ask. I love telling people about my journey. But don't falsely judge. That's what you just did to me, and I don't deserve that...nor do you.

I answered your question asking me what I thought about your switch. It isn't really judging. How am I to know if you don't tell, and what do you expect but an opinion, when you ask? Sorry you felt judged.
 
@Euphemia @LysanderShapiro @PeaceLikeaRiver @Major @Huntingteckel @KingJ So, the other day I was walking around in the dark. All of the sudden there was this skunk in front of me, his hair and tail were sticking up. I froze, "Please don't spray me, please don't spray me." Finally it started moving again, but it was moving the same way I needed to go. So I tried to walk slower, but he thought I was following him, so he slowed down. Then I slowed down. He looked at me, and his tail shot back up. I took a few steps back. Then after about 20 seconds, maybe 35 seconds, the skunk started moving again. Have any of you guys ever been sprayed by a skunk? How bad is it really?

Hahaha, I never have, but I used to work at a summer camp as a counselor. A fellow counselor was sprayed that summer, and he had to throw out the clothes he was wearing and take multiple tomato juice baths. It took many hours to finally simmer the smell.
 
I answered your question asking me what I thought about your switch. It isn't really judging. How am I to know if you don't tell, and what do you expect but an opinion, when you ask? Sorry you felt judged.

Perhaps we misunderstood each other. But now that you know that it was not a matter of compromise, convenience, or wanting something fancy, you are welcome to ask. If not, that's quite alright. But that also means you can't assume.
 
Hahaha, I never have, but I used to work at a summer camp as a counselor. A fellow counselor was sprayed that summer, and he had to throw out the clothes he was wearing and take multiple tomato juice baths. It took many hours to finally simmer the smell.
So the tomato thing is not a myth, but actually works. I wonder how many cans of tomatoes it would take to make a bath. I'm guessing at least 35 of them. Sounds like an expensive bath, but I bet it would be very therapeutic. Maybe it's something similar to those mud baths that people do.

Where exactly is the spray coming from? What would you call that part of the body? Also, I wonder if it sprays in a mist form, or is it more like a stream? If it's more like a stream then maybe if it only gets on a leg or something, a person could just take a rag and rub tomato sauce on that part only.
 
So the tomato thing is not a myth, but actually works. I wonder how many cans of tomatoes it would take to make a bath. I'm guessing at least 35 of them. Sounds like an expensive bath, but I bet it would be very therapeutic. Maybe it's something similar to those mud baths that people do.

Where exactly is the spray coming from? What would you call that part of the body? Also, I wonder if it sprays in a mist form, or is it more like a stream? If it's more like a stream then maybe if it only gets on a leg or something, a person could just take a rag and rub tomato sauce on that part only.

Well it may be a myth. The odor still remained. This was back in 2004. There may be more innovative ways to clear the skunk smell.
 
So the tomato thing is not a myth, but actually works. I wonder how many cans of tomatoes it would take to make a bath. I'm guessing at least 35 of them. Sounds like an expensive bath, but I bet it would be very therapeutic. Maybe it's something similar to those mud baths that people do.

Where exactly is the spray coming from? What would you call that part of the body? Also, I wonder if it sprays in a mist form, or is it more like a stream? If it's more like a stream then maybe if it only gets on a leg or something, a person could just take a rag and rub tomato sauce on that part only.

As far as I have learned, the tomato juice thing is a myth. As for the spray, the scent glands under the tail of the skunk produces an oil that is so powerful it can be detected a couple kilometers away!
 
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@Euphemia ;)
 
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