The REAL Goal of Hitler
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Hmm...
In general, I don't think that working backwards from a result to infer an intent is productive.
The thing is, people are often pretty inept and fail to appreciate any opposition. Unintended consequences seems to highlight much of man's activities. We are too short sighted and self-centered.
As far as Hitler, his problem is that he came to believe his own propaganda and labeled any opposition as wrong. His generals knew how the rest of the world would view their treatment of the Jews and tried to eliminate the evidence along with those that witnessed the horrors.
In general, I don't think that working backwards from a result to infer an intent is productive.
The thing is, people are often pretty inept and fail to appreciate any opposition. Unintended consequences seems to highlight much of man's activities. We are too short sighted and self-centered.
As far as Hitler, his problem is that he came to believe his own propaganda and labeled any opposition as wrong. His generals knew how the rest of the world would view their treatment of the Jews and tried to eliminate the evidence along with those that witnessed the horrors.
In some cases, you're right. Reverse deduction, however, is the method in how our legal system determines intent. Murder cases use this, and it's very successful in many cases in determining as to if there had been premeditation for the murder. It can solve and establish the initial intent much of the time, if not always.
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Isn't reverse deduction what is done in solving all crimes. The Crime is done, over and then detectives go backwards to determine why and how it happened? Just asking!
To me, Hitler is just a way to try and explain evil that is front of our eyes. Most of the time we do not recognize eveil when it is standing in front of us, but He makes the explination easy.
For those who believe, or want to say that they have seen a demon..........then when they see Hitler, that is exactly what they saw.
That Dr. may very well be the smartest man in the world. However, instead of "mayhem", maybe Hitler was just an evil, demonic man intent on killing as many people as he could.
But they DON'T start with a determination that the crime was murder and therefore that was the intent.
Once it was determined that a death was at the hands of a defendant, the investigators must look for intent to differentiate between the levels of culpability and the eventual charges which could range between such things as manslaughter (which does not require intent to be proven) and negligent homicide (no direct intent, but failure to take repercussions into account), etc.
In court (and I was a juror for a murder trial and had it explained by the judge) the prosecution may jump back and forth between the conclusion as the prosecutors see it and the supporting evidence, but they can't just say that there was a murder and therefore that was what the defendant intended. You have to go the other way (prove intent or pre-meditation and justify assertion of murder as opposed to a lesser charge).
Hitler was demon possessed as was H.S. Chamberlain, the author of the underpinning philosophy supporting Hitler's Nazism. However, God did turn their evil into something good--without the Nazis, there would be no nation of Israel today.
It was said that WW1 prepared the land and WW2 prepared the people.
I don't wish to take this thread "down the rabbit-hole", but prepared by who? Hitler? Satan? Christ?
for what? The Anti-Christ? The restoration of Israel? The initiation of the End Times in general?
I do not remember who said that. It was said many years ago by a professor of mine teaching prophecy and the point was that God was working to get His people back into the land.
The Balfour Declaration in1917 made public the British support of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The Balfour Declaration led the League of Nations to entrust the United Kingdom with the Palestine Mandate in 1922 allowing borders to be set up.
WW2 allowed the Jews to co·a·lesce and declare themselves available for the Land which was waiting on them in Palestine which would be the restoration of Israel in the Land that God promised them.
Jordan would first have to acknowledge that Satan exists. Being smart isn't always what it's cracked up tp be. Satan loves it that so many disbelieve his existence. Imagine how good that would have been for our troops on Normandy Beach, had the Germans believed that our soldiers on that beach didn't exist....
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I don't understand how you arrived at the idea that anyone was saying that murder is the initial assumption, and then working backwards from that to the intent. It's a given that they look for clues to determine as to if it was suicide, or murder, or an accident. It's a multiple choice for them to consider.
But, that's ok. It's just a discussion.
Thanks for chiming in.
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Now THAT is a consideration/outcome I had never traipsed into before. Very well said.
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Interesting. That's assuming that the person was operating with a full deck of cards though. If a person is nuts with flawed thinking, his reasons for doing something will make zero sense and will be impossible to determine what his desires were. Some people are just crazy and follow no logic, or their own form of logic.
I personally think Hitler was possessed. I saw documentaries about him being involved with the occult. That's definitely a straight up open door for demonic activity.
If he was possessed, then it's easy to see why the evil spirits controlling him wanted to kill Jews. Jesus was a Jew and the chosen people were Jews.
That picture of Hitler in the video made my skin crawl, he looked possessed.
I personally think Hitler was possessed. I saw documentaries about him being involved with the occult. That's definitely a straight up open door for demonic activity.
If he was possessed, then it's easy to see why the evil spirits controlling him wanted to kill Jews. Jesus was a Jew and the chosen people were Jews.
That picture of Hitler in the video made my skin crawl, he looked possessed.
When evaluating Hitler you have to first get past all the lies and propaganda told about him along with the German nation. Did Hitler really want to kill the Jews ? No. Germany had the transfer agreement from the 30’s with the Zionists and that was to repatriate Jewish people in the land of Palestine with goods waiting. That option was finally closed with the commencement of WW2. So other options became necessary He certainly wanted the Jews out of Europe. You must remember it was world Zionism that declared war on Germany in 1933 in trying to strangle Germany’s economy
I have some doubts about that historic narrative. Various historians through the years have even cast doubts upon the Holocaust itself, claiming that it never happened. Therein is why I doubt narratives that have elements of contradiction to the historic realities.
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Hello Prim90;
I find what you shared interesting. I'm sure the Jewish and Christian community would love to learn more because they see it another way.
Please elaborate and where did you get this information?
God bless you, Prim90, and your family.
Are you attempting to justify the concentration camps and their subsequent murders as being the necessary consequence of Germany defending itself from Anglo-Russian aggression?
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