I know, that's why I posted #25 & #27
Enoch
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I do not think that because the church in Ethiopia accept the Apocrypha has any meaning. It was known and accepted around the 4th century.
God used the Jewish teachers and scribes to determine the Jewish canon and they did not accept Enoch from the beginning. That fact alone should send up warning flags.
There is also no evidence that the Jews as a whole accepted the book as part of the Jewish Bible. On top of that, the book was not even written originally in Hebrew. If we accept the premise that the Jews chose the Old Testament, then Enoch should be rejected.
Now WHY did only the church in Ethiopia accept the Apocrypha must be the question???
It has been speculated that they had more interest in eschatology (the study of end times) and apocalyptic literature in general they did the 1st church.
Now, this is not a salvation issue or a question whether or not a Christian should read Enoch. I have read it and studied it and I have the book right here on by book shelf. It is an interesting read for sure. All I am saying is that due to its "many" Occultic qualities, it has to be rejected for any Scriptural truths or insights.
As I said, I m not saying the Christian should not read The Book of Enoch.
Wha I am saying is the the Christian must be careful because it presents ideas that conflict with core Christian doctrine, such as:
1. A complex hierarchy of angels not found in Scripture
2. Speculative descriptions of heaven and hell
3. Salvation themes inconsistent with grace through Christ
4. Salvation is through works.
5. Names of angels who are not found in the canon of Scriptures.
These doctrinal inconsistencies are dangerous if the Book is treated as spiritually authoritative.
As we have discussed this, Enoch expands the story of the Nephilim far beyond Genesis 6, inserting speculative myths that are never supported in the rest of Scripture that when any person who is not completely committed to Christ, can be affected negatively.
Yikes, if believed, that is enough to incur the Anathemas of the Holy Spirit.
Galatians 1:8-9 KJV
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
I don't care to ingest poison, especially when it is not needed.
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Poor book of Enoch... LearningToLetGo ... Maybe next time... don't talk to the BOYS about your new adventures of study. HAHAHA.
Just curious, where did that part about Michael and satan discussing Moses body, was that from enoch?
You end up with the trash movie that was called Noah
I have a hard enough time reading and knowing inspired scriptures, much less non canon books
I'm sure those BOYS can handle it.
No. That document is the Assumption of Moses. There is only one incomplete Latin translation of a Greek text from the 6th century. The section concerning that event is missing. However, according to Origen, we know that account was found in that document during his time.
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Christian movies are notorious for two things.
1. Bad acting.
2. Off the wall theology.
As far as we know, the holy Spirit inspired Jude to write that about Michael and satan.
What a terrible movie.
My wife wanted to see it and we could not watch it to the end.
What was those "things" that helped build the Ark and then they fought off all the people. Then there was a stowaway!????
I looked all through by assorted Bibles and could not find those events.
No sir. Jude 9. It is found no where else.
"Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
It has also been supposed that Jude is quoting an apocryphal book that contained this account, and that Jude means to confirm that the account is true. Origen (c. 185–254), an early Christian scholar and theologian, mentions the book “The Assumption of Moses” as extant in his time, containing this very account of the contest between Michael and the devil about the body of Moses. That book, now lost, was a Jewish Greek book, and Origen supposed that this was the source of the account in Jude.
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And THAT my dear brother is exactly what I have been saying all along.Yikes, if believed, that is enough to incur the Anathemas of the Holy Spirit.
Galatians 1:8-9 KJV
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
I don't care to ingest poison, especially when it is not needed.
I had to read and digest that book because a professor wanted us to "See" the difference between truth and false teaching and he said there was no better example of Satan's false lies than the book of Enoch.
Could he have known from Jewish traditional scriptures???? Just asking!
But if he dosent, what do we talk about????
I will. You can count on it. My thesis regarding the Greek gods, Hercules, Achilles and the adventures of Ulysses will *blow* your mind!
Sneak peak: the cyclops that trapped Ulysses in the cave was a ... ( wait for it ) ... Giant!
Pretty sure those things were the Watchers... It was a bad movie in a fun way, I suppose.
Thanks, but I already saw the movie as a kid,'Sinbad'.I will. You can count on it. My thesis regarding the Greek gods, Hercules, Achilles and the adventures of Ulysses will *blow* your mind!
Sneak peak: the cyclops that trapped Ulysses in the cave was a ... ( wait for it ) ... Giant!