Give God a Way In

Give God a Way In
And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts. And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land.
– Malachi 3:11-12
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God is vitally interested in your finances. He wants to multiply and protect them. But He won’t be able to—unless you open the door for Him to do it.

How? Through tithing.

When you tithe, you give God the legal right to intervene in your financial affairs, to bless you richly, and to defend you against the destruction the devil brings. When you tithe, you lay a foundation for success and abundance. You establish deposits with God you can draw on when you need them.

But don’t wait until your back is against the wall to start. Begin now. Start developing your faith when things are going well by meditating on the blessings God’s Word promises you as a tither. Learn to act on that Word now, and when Satan tries to put you in a financial corner, he’ll fail. His power over you financially will have already been broken. Because you’ve established yourself on the covenant of God, Satan will have no chance against you. God will rebuke him for your sake.

If you haven’t yet opened the door and given God a way in to your finances, don’t wait any longer. Do it today. Then, when the pressures of tomorrow come, you’ll be prepared and protected by the special privileges that are guaranteed to those who tithe.
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Scripture Reading: Hebrews 7:1-9
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JEsus told the rich young ruler to sell ALL he had, give to the poor and to follow Him. I dont know if he did it..but Jesus said he would have treasure in Heaven if he did.
 
So lets talk about the tithe. Not really the concept of giving to God's ministries according to how He has blessed us, but specifically the 10% as a scriptural standard.

I am always hesitant to talk about this subject since some will take my view as taking away from our duties. Others will use these ideas to justify holding back from giving to the church. But neither of those express my heart.

I recently posted a thread about rules and the old law. My thesis was that the old law was used to train us in righteousness in His sight just as the rules parents give their children are to train them in being good persons.

The point being that if all goes well, our children incorporate good living into their deepest being from which their way of life flows. When they mature, many of the rules are no longer specifically needed. My sons know to tell the truth regardless of whether some authority in levying that rule against them.

It is the same with the old law. It taught us what righteousness is just as my rules for my sons taught them how to live correctly. But, just as the old rules I had imposed on my sons as children are no longer relevant, but the lifestyle behind those rules are still important, so the old law to reach us to love God is no longer relevant as long as the love for God they were to instill remains.

When it comes to the tithe, learning to give and backing that up with life's action is what is important. As for how much to give, when someone has been materially blessed (as I have), 10% is a small sum and not a goal to be proud of. The point is to give sacrificially. To live within the means He has provided, an keep our offerings safe against all on which we may want to spend it. This brings thoughts of service to God into all that impacts our purse.

It also gives the false impression of being a more committed child of God than others. Or that is buys them special favor of God. You cannot out give God, but His currency is not the currency of man.

I have much more to say, but will hold my piece.
 
Greetings Siloam ,
I am totally on board with this.
One thing I hope gets brought to Light is that the Tithe is NOT Giving some money to a homeless person or something like that.
1. Tithe
2. First Fruits
3. Seed
4. Alms.

All are separate forms of giving.
I don't understand anyone who would actually try and use scripture just to keep all their money. Simply Sad.
Blessings
FCJ
 
JEsus told the rich young ruler to sell ALL he had, give to the poor and to follow Him. I dont know if he did it..but Jesus said he would have treasure in Heaven if he did.
No he did not sell everything.
The point to this was that he put his trust in his riches .
Blessings
 
1. Tithe
2. First Fruits
3. Seed
4. Alms.

One of the influential pastors in my life calculated that if we were to apply all the various offerings from the Old Testament, the church would be asking for approximately 1/3 of our income. He would then go on to explain that God's church economy today does not work the same way, but requires us to be cognizant of all our Lord has done for us.

Another influential pastor in my life (the pastor of my first church after receiving Christ) preached tithing, but always as one of "the three 'T's of giving: Time, Talent & Treasure". Even then, tithing was not truely the measure of giving to the church.
 
One of the influential pastors in my life calculated that if we were to apply all the various offerings from the Old Testament, the church would be asking for approximately 1/3 of our income. He would then go on to explain that God's church economy today does not work the same way, but requires us to be cognizant of all our Lord has done for us.

Another influential pastor in my life (the pastor of my first church after receiving Christ) preached tithing, but always as one of "the three 'T's of giving: Time, Talent & Treasure". Even then, tithing was not truely the measure of giving to the church.
I suppose you could look at it that way if one wanted to but I sure will not.
What really is 1/3 our income anyway?
With that kind of thinking one must separate ones wealth with God and find a balance that pleases one. Kind of like, well God you know how it is, things are tough all over.
Yep I can see God now, Big chuckle and tears saying, yes well if you understood my system things would not be so tough for you.

With that comparing today's giving and saying good bye to 1/3 of your income just shows your heart is not right because you just do not understand at this time.

There is Deliverance for those who truly begin to understand God's Giving System.
Not sure that sounds right but for lack of better words at the moment.

Seems they forget All The Benifits of being a New Testament Tither and Giver.

10% is the Tithe and that's hardly 1/3 of one's income.
First Fruits is done once a year out of increase.
Seed is done anytime.
Alms is when you feel led to help some one.

Plus then there is God's Promises on His side of all this which He takes seriously just as He takes His new Covenant seriously with us.

Looking forward to this turn in the thread.
Blessings
FCJ
 
I suppose you could look at it that way if one wanted to but I sure will not.
What really is 1/3 our income anyway?
With that kind of thinking one must separate ones wealth with God and find a balance that pleases one. Kind of like, well God you know how it is, things are tough all over.
Yep I can see God now, Big chuckle and tears saying, yes well if you understood my system things would not be so tough for you.

With that comparing today's giving and saying good bye to 1/3 of your income just shows your heart is not right because you just do not understand at this time.

There is Deliverance for those who truly begin to understand God's Giving System.
Not sure that sounds right but for lack of better words at the moment.

Seems they forget All The Benifits of being a New Testament Tither and Giver.

10% is the Tithe and that's hardly 1/3 of one's income.
First Fruits is done once a year out of increase.
Seed is done anytime.
Alms is when you feel led to help some one.

Plus then there is God's Promises on His side of all this which He takes seriously just as He takes His new Covenant seriously with us.

Looking forward to this turn in the thread.
Blessings
FCJ

Something that I wanted to add is that we can never out give God... Which is what Siloam said as well... So if we do give a third of our income.... Like you said we will just end up reaping more... And then we don't have to be burdened down with any thoughts of lack. However if we don't believe that God will pour put the blessings and money... Then we will never receive the increase. And we will never experience God being a greater giver than we are. We also have to learn how to be receivers :) so that we can keep the cycle going.
 
I was asked to count the tithe and offerings today with another member at church but I hadnt done it for a long time and made a terrible mistake. We are supposed to open the envelopes and put the amount thats inside them on the numbered envelopes but I forgot to do this and just counted all the money that was inside all together.

Since i opened all the envelopes I dont remember how much was in each one. Arrgh.now the church secretary has to contact all the members that have given the envelopes (each has a number) and ask how much they gave. ?!

I think they do this for tax purposes. Actually I dont know as I dont put money in an numbered envelope when I give. I just give. I'm a bit of a sporadic giver because my income hasnt always been regular plus my attendance isnt regular. But..I am a cheerful giver. I actually dont mind if I get nothing back, well thats the point of giving, to be generous not to get something back or as some kind of investment. GOd sees what you give anyway, and He will reimburse you if you give to the poor.

I should have said no find someone else to count the money because I am not very good at it. Its a but silly because I even did a certificate in money management, where I learned all about mortgages and investments and equity and bonds and insurance and leverage and debts and credit cards and compund interest etc, but, the university never did teach us anything about tithing!
 
No he did not sell everything.
The point to this was that he put his trust in his riches .
Blessings
Thats a shame. I think there comes a point when people do sell everything. For example many missionaries will sell their homes so they can have funds go overseas to take the gospel to the unreached. There is no point hanging on to a property forever just to make yourself rich, but lots of people do this land speculation and continue flipping properties to fund their own lifestyles so that they dont have to actually do any work. I have know a few 'trust fund kids' that put their trust in riches and they just do whatever they want spending it on things that dont matter, livng a hedonistic lifestyle until the money runs out, or they die, whichever is first.
 
But..I am a cheerful giver. I actually dont mind if I get nothing back, well thats the point of giving, to be generous not to get something back or as some kind of investment.

Actually according to the Bible... When you give, your supposed to expect to receive back from God. It's the law of sowing and reaping. In Luke 6:38 Jesus says .... , Give and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
 
This might be another topic, but what comes to mind is in OT tithe works like a tax does, except with the tithe it was used for the levites to live off, food and produce, since they didnt have any land of their own they were in charge of the tabernacle. And thus couldnt grow any food, manufacture clothes etc as all their time was spent there.

The difference with the tithe and tax is with the tithe is you are offering it to God and you knew what the Levites were going to use it for. But tax...these days tax, which is often more than 10percent according to how much you earn, often its not known what the govt is spending it on. Its meant to be spent on running the country and the welfare of the people who cant work, but different politicans have different ideas of what to spend it on when they get in power. And it just gets taken out of your pay automiatically. But the bad thing about it is its often the richest people who find ways to avoid paying tax. Global corporations also find ways of not paying tax and so dont give back to the countries they do business in.

Tax collectors are also the most despised of people in the NT. But if Jesus can turn Zaccheus around and make him an honest man...He can sort out those who are robbing others. With the tithe it was for the upkeep of the temple, but now there is no more temple, (except for the body of Christ) we just give with a cheerful heart and trust that whatever we give will be used for Gods purposes.
 
Actually according to the Bible... When you give, your supposed to expect to receive back from God. It's the law of sowing and reaping. In Luke 6:38 Jesus says .... , Give and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
Oh ok I must be reading the previous verses though in Luke 6:35
 
I must have been thinking of giving to enemies or people that cant pay you back. Obviously if you give to God he can do a lot with what you give, for example, two loaves and five fishes can feed 5000 people. Absolutely..
 
I must have been thinking of giving to enemies or people that cant pay you back. Obviously if you give to God he can do a lot with what you give, for example, two loaves and five fishes can feed 5000 people. Absolutely..

Something else to think about... If one does not believe that Jesus will pay them back for giving to the poor... They will not receive anything. Receiving the promises in the Bible requires that we believe that is something that God will do for us. Jesus told Martha that if she wanted to see His glory she had to believe.
 
Bible says when you give to the poor, you lend to God and He will pay you back. proverbs 19:17

But also says in Proverbs 22:16 oppressing the poor to enrich oneself or giving gifts to the rich will both lead to poverty.

This is why if you do celebrate christmas you give gifts to children you are not obligated to give gifts to those who can afford it or already have ie. adults.
 
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