Affectations

Musicmaster

Musicmaster

Looking past the expletives that are blanked out...trying to not use one's imagination to fill it back in...this brought to mind so many experiences in the past when dealing with cults and false teachers of almost every stripe. They too do "affectations" that work to sway far too many people. The dictionary.com says this:

1. an effort to appear to have a quality not really or fully possessed; the pretense of actual possession: an affectation of interest in art; affectation of great wealth.

2. conspicuous artificiality of manner or appearance; effort to attract notice by pretense, assumption, or any assumed peculiarity.

3. a trait, action, or expression characterized by such artificiality: a man of a thousand affectations.


I recall many a charismatic preacher doing that silly affectation:

Do you FEEEEEEL the Holy Spirit-ahh?

That's so Hollywoodesque, and is so lacking in genuine speech. It conveys the appearance of them not speaking TO others, but rather DOWN at them.

The disingenuineness of patterns of infection and speech is important, and when "affecting" something that's clearly out of character, even in lying about doctrinal beliefs, as the Mormons did toward me when I joined up with them those many years ago, this is a great word that pinpoints a verbal cue of a covering over of what's really lurking in the background.

I posted this after getting feedback from others as to the appropriateness, given that there is some language that is muted out and bleeped, but the overall message is a good one. I've had people try to talk down at me in a manner similar to this, which is veiled animus.

MM
 
another you tube video. Do you have like a subscription or something?

How about not watching them. Then we can think for ourselves.
 
Maybe best that grumbles prepares his own coffee at home. Staff are trained to serve and make their customers feel right at home. Certainly not to be abused and spoken down to. Not sure about all the cultic expression and rhetoric inferred here. Maybe grumbles just wanted more of the waiters attention.
 
Prim90 said:
Maybe best that grumbles prepares his own coffee at home. Staff are trained to serve and make their customers feel right at home. Certainly not to be abused and spoken down to. Not sure about all the cultic expression and rhetoric inferred here. Maybe grumbles just wanted more of the waiters attention.
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You appear to have missed the gist of it all. The worker was talking down to people by the inflections she had in her voice. It was perhaps subtle to many, but not all. THAT is what was at play.

MM
 
This appears to me to be a fictional encounter and scripted.

I realize the particular larger point trying to be made in posting this video here but this also touches on another important point and that is “entitled” customers abusing staff in retail settings.

Coming from retail I can contribute that staff in major retail chains are trained to be mission oriented. This is because they are literally dealing with saints and demons every day. Staff are hobbled in these exchanges by the threat of losing their employment. They must deal with many the moods and affections of customers even when they wake up not feeling well, after someone breaks into they car or their favorite uncle passes away.

It is shocking how many people feel entitled to unload their personal stresses and tortured mental thinking on people that are prohibited to a majority degree in responding as they might if this exchange was conducted out on the street.

In other words, there are many cowardly people who “T” off on sales and support staff who are forced to deal with them in order to put food on the table.

Another view perhaps.

God bless you.
 
blueskies said:
This appears to me to be a fictional encounter and scripted.

I realize the particular larger point trying to be made in posting this video here but this also touches on another important point and that is “entitled” customers abusing staff in retail settings.

Coming from retail I can contribute that staff in major retail chains are trained to be mission oriented. This is because they are literally dealing with saints and demons every day. Staff are hobbled in these exchanges by the threat of losing their employment. They must deal with many the moods and affections of customers even when they wake up not feeling well, after someone breaks into they car or their favorite uncle passes away.

It is shocking how many people feel entitled to unload their personal stresses and tortured mental thinking on people that are prohibited to a majority degree in responding as they might if this exchange was conducted out on the street.

In other words, there are many cowardly people who “T” off sales and support staff who are forced to deal with them in order to put food on the table.

Another view perhaps.

God bless you.
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Human relations are a very complex thing. I see your point from the perspective of an employee. As a counter, I would say that employees who are speaking down at others as did that young woman, who obviously was a product of public education, or perhaps some snooty private, Ivy League school (which I doubt), she had an attitude problem; whether the outflow from her personal issues or not.

Just Wednesday, a young woman who slammed into the the back of our car because of her being in worshipful gaze upon her cell phone (palm god), she immediately jumped out and asked if we were all ok, and that she had tried to stop. As an investigator, I could see that her words were nothing but lies...except one. She was on her way to work. She laid down no skid marks to show that she had even begun to apply her brakes, and that she did indeed see us all stopped at a red light, but was just unable to stop.

(rolling eyes to the ceiling) She had no clue that she was trying to lie to someone who saw through it all, based upon all the physical evidence. Why? Because she was willing to look to fool at the expense to her own integrity. Her husband came to the scene, and she lied to him outright. The complete and utter lack of respect and regard for others by simply owning up to her responsibility for it all, no. That video betrayed the same spirit that's infecting so much of our youth and older alike. To most, the lack of integrity in personal conduct and words is like money....easy come, easy go. Oh well.... The lack of value placed upon integrity is astounding, no matter how bad a day or week or month one is having. It's hard, yes, but the rewards for upholding integrity are examples of what the world needs so very badly, especially our youth.

MM
 
I know I can generally spot people when they are being condescending.

It usually makes me feel violated.

I can see how people who are forced to do something they hate doing would eventually become passive aggressive and take it out on others because they feel they don’t have any other choice in what they do to survive and it just keeps on rolling into a bigger snowball.


We should all do ourselves a favour when we get this bad. Get some help in finding something you do like doing.

( I’m currently going to look for a job in retail so I’m pretty glad this thread has come up, )

Edit: sorry to hear of your accident Musicmaster ☹️
 
Musicmaster said:
Just Wednesday, a young woman who slammed into the the back of our car because of her being in worshipful gaze upon her cell phone
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To me this is the most important part of your post and I am truly sorry to hear of this and pray you and family are well my friend.
Musicmaster said:
the lack of integrity in personal conduct and words
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I agree this is epidemic in society as a whole but I believe it stems from a lack of values being instilled at the most basic unit, that being the family.
Musicmaster said:
that young woman, who obviously was a product of public education, or perhaps some snooty private, Ivy League school (which I doubt), she had an attitude problem; whether the outflow from her personal issues or not.
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This strikes me as the idea for a novel but I think Jane Austin has already explored this idea.

My own feelings are that judging someone on their perceived education, mannerisms and vocal inflection is not equitable, at least in my opinion. This holds wether it is because they overly polished or barely able to be articulate. It seems superficial and not how I would want to be evaluated by a brother or sister in Christ.

Thank you for the opportunity here Musicmaster, God bless you and your family.
 
Hello Musicmaster;

I watched this video again and it actually made me laugh. Follow me on this as I share my thoughts out loud;

Here in California there is a twang (like the young lady in the video) that young people use in their casual "I don't care" state of mind (Northern California,) and especially surfers (San Diego and Los Angeles) versus when they are in serious "I need something" mode.

In retail, coffee shops, fast food, and other services, many, many workers are ashamed of their job (attitude toward serving others, low pay, lack of humbleness, other cop out reasons.) Notice how the young lady worker called the customer a d--k?

As a customer I have heard them tell me aside that they are actually going to a respectable college to attain a sense of accomplishment, and their current job is just a temporary thing. This is not something you say to a customer, instead, you're representing the retail or coffee shop, talking the product you are selling with the highest form of service.

Afterall, the worker had free will to accept or reject the job offer from day one. Otherwise, quit and give the next worker the opportunity to do a good job including having the right tone of voice.

As a customer wherever I shop, I preach that we should also give "customer service" back to the employee or vendor of that store we are shopping at, (I'm not talking respect for that has to be earned but their service provided you,) so the shopper can enjoy a good buying experience at the place they're serviced.

I understand the dude came in the store with an agenda (the young lady's affectation) but I can sense this really bugs him anywhere he interfaces with people.

Paul wrote to the Ephesians from prison in chapter 4:1-2, 1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; - KJV

Affectations is wrong Biblically. There are Scriptures throughout the Old and New Testaments where God looks at the heart in each of us. Unbelievers don't get a free pass.

MM and I talked Wednesday the day of his accident. I was relieved he and his wife were ok after getting x rayed at the hospital. What disappoints me is the other driver wasn't being truthful, especially to her husband. It seems there was opportunity for her to avoid rear ending MM.

When we aren't honest a discerning Christian can tell by the affectations which includes "to justify or impress by lying."

Paul taught in Philippi to all who would listen, 3 Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. - Philippians 2:3 ESV

This includes being ourselves, the self that God created. What we tend to overlook is, "why do we change ourselves after God already created us?" Being ourselves is also guarding our tongue and tone.

In the meantime, the next time we encounter a person showing a display of affectations, remember we are the light of Jesus and this includes patience, lowliness and forbearing with one another in love. For me this is a hard discipline but with God He is growing us up and will bring us to fruition.

God bless you, MM, and thank you for showing this video. It definitely made me think.






 
Employers employ university students because they'll take any job for minimum wage and then leave for better jobs after a while. They have no experience but they need the money to save and pay their student loans because their parents cannot pay the expensive fees.

I wouldn't hold that against them, being a poor student is no fun. Many save money on heating by not actually having any heating and live in rotting slums while they are studying.

Otherwise its their parents working extra shifts to pay the university fees. Not everyone has rich parents who can afford university/college. In fact most don't. The university makes its money from the far richer foreign students who they charge fees.

This is how it works. I know because I studied and worked in University. They were always wanting to keep it afloat and finding ways to get endowments.
 
I took cleaning jobs as a student and contemplated dropping out of University, not using my brain, and just being a cleaner for the rest of my life.

For like two seconds.

The cleaning job paid fairly well for a cleaning job! But it was for a richer lady who sadly was divorced/separated and didn't have enough time to clean her own mansion. I enjoyed the cleaning job and working for her but I don't think I could have done it forever. My brain would have died. When you have the chance to go to university and use your brain, you do NOT pass up the opportunity.
 
I think people don't forget where they come from. If they come from a poor family background, often they want to hide it but its better to be honest I think. When you are truly poor, sometimes it seems there is no escape. The barriers are that much higher. You have to work twice as hard just to get anywhere and study for longer.

Someone who is born to wealth always has a cushion of family connections to fall back on and life is easier for them even when they lose everything because they are seen as more value, people put a 'net worth' on their brand name or whatever. They have assets and capital that someone who is born poor can never access.

I guess people can't see it from both sides, to have a bit of compassion for those who struggle and for those who have gotten past that to help those less fortunate than themselves. And often it can be a matter of luck where you find yourself. Thats why people say 'they are lucky in love' or 'unlucky in love' as for married people they rely on the fortunes of their spouse a lot.
 
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