Because every verse in Scripture that mentions homosexuality says it is a sin, and every verse about marriage mentions husbands and wives, or wives and husbands, not husbands and husbands or wives and wives. Marriage is not a piece of paper or a fancy get together where you spend thousands of dollars for one kiss in clothes you're going to where one time. It is a covenant between a man, a woman, and God.
Living in sin is not something that gets God's blessing, and frankly it shouldn't get ours, either.
Furthermore, if gay marriage became okay, why then would it not be okay for me to marry my sister? My father? My aunt? My dog? A venomous duck?
The covenant of marriage must have boundaries, and we find those boundaries clearly spelled out in Scripture.
I do have to preface what I share by clarifying that I love people (ALL people) regardless of their sexual orientation. Although the bible is clear about this lifestyle choice. I guess, in part, some of my reasons for not supporting equal rights is because it would be as though I am in support of the sin. 1 John 2:10 says, "Anyone who loves another brother or sister is living in the light and does not cause others to stumble."
If I had a bunch of friends who were committing adultery, I couldn't in a clear conscious advocate that we should make adultery socially acceptable, therefore, I can't advocate for the homosexual lifestyle under that same premise.
- Leviticus 18:22
“Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
- Leviticus 20:13
“If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.
- 1 Corinthians 6:9
Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality,
- 1 Timothy 1:10
The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching.
First off-the world is going to do whatever it wants because the (true) Church no longer has a significant influence in it. So we are to love the sinner and hate the sin-but when we stop standing up against the sin it shows the apathy of the Church.
True marriage of a man and and a woman is sanctified by God-and now the destruction of the family unit is complete by destroying the very thing that God ordained in the beginning by placing an abomination where it does not belong...
In my opinion-the 'state' has no right to issue, dictate, create ordinance on any 'personal' relationship. As a people, we allow the government to infiltrate our lives.
The 'institution of marriage' belongs solely to God and any variation from the original plan should be dissuaded. By allowing the gubment into our bedrooms-we open up this can of worms in search of 'what can I get out of this deal?'
Simply put; it is all for the love of money-in the guise of personal love toward one another. You are correct-true marriage versus the ungodly marriage are polar opposites. By coupling it with 'benefits' we (the Church) have allowed it to become an abomination in God's eyes. Like I said-the world will do what the world will do. But we should stand up for something-shouldn't it be for the righteousness of God's creation?
Liars, murderers, fornicators, and unbelievers do not tout their sin to justify their lifestyle. How can you dispute that marriage is between a man and a woman? God created this union: Genesis 2:22-24and so because of your strong Christian belief you feel gays should not have a normal right of citizenship to get married, even though liars, murderers, fornicators and unbelievers do?
Sorry but I am NOT intentionally being antagonistic. I did recognize it as a hot button topic if you note my OP heading. If you can show me where scripture says there is degree in sin I will look at it. Trust me I am no where near naive.This discussion pinches so many nerves in my body. Stan, saying their are no degrees of sin is naive don't you see that?
If your wife thinks of other men = bad. If your wife watches porn = worse. If your wife commits adultery = terrible. However all these can be forgiven for sincere repentance....but then...consistent adultery = divorce!!!!!
Likewise with God... our levels of rebellion are forgiven 7x70 times a day as long as we can sincerely repent...but when we continue in an extremity of rebellion....our repentance becomes a joke....our salvation comes into serious question. If God wanted you to be with a man He would have made you a woman. Since you are clearly made a man, being with the same sex is 100% against God will = Major rebellion, not dipping your feet in sin, nope rather dunking your whole body in it causing the Holy Spirit to want to jump out. It is a clear indicator that the flesh is in full control. I cannot think of many worse examples.
Christians condoning it in anyway (approving of them being married for one) are watering down the scripture. We must not dim our light. As for me and my house...
I actually can't believe we having this discussion. Christians must oppose this or else younger Christians will be stumbled. This is the chief reason for me. I know the carnal are capable of any sin and for them sin = sin...but NOT for us. We are going from glory to glory!!!! 2 Cor 3:18.
Liars, murderers, fornicators, and unbelievers do not tout their sin to justify their lifestyle. How can you dispute that marriage is between a man and a woman? God created this union: Genesis 2:22-24
With all due respect Stan... You must have expected this topic to generate an emotional response because it is highly contested in the world; causing division between people, families, and communities. Satan must be having a field day watching it cause division in the church too! (That's the burden that I carry the heaviest on this discussion.) That, in and of itself, demonstrates that this is not of God. We need to pray not only for homosexuals, but for everyone who does not know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior that they will come to repent of their sin. Why don't we put our energy into helping non-believers come into a relationship with Christ, not put ourselves out there to make our declarations about right and wrong - at the end of the day that is what Christ came to do... "Seek and to save those that are lost." Luke 19:10
OK let's be clear, WE are ALL sinners. Some saved by Grace and some not. Sin is sin and yes some sin is pointed out in scripture. The ONLY sin I see that has a severe repercussion is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. ALL other sin is forgivable and is, when we are saved. Are fornicators any worse that homosexuals? Are murders or adulterers any worse?
Marriage is what God designed as per Gen 2:24.
What I am talking about is secular marriage, something that does NOT affect the Body of Christ. Many unbelievers get married in the secular world. I am talking about democratic rights to citizens, NOT Biblical instructions to believers.
BTW, what are the boundaries spelled out in scripture?
Yes that's right, and why are so many believers against gays having secular/democratic rights?Stan, you asked why so many believers are against it, yet you later said you're talking about secular rights. That's comparing apples and snow tires.
And yes, all sin is sin. Period. And we are forgiven for all, but the word "repent" doesn't mean to apologize. It means to turn away. There's a difference between making a mistake, and deliberately living in sin.
So do you mean to say that you think someone who's deliberately living in sin is forgiven for their ongoing sin, regardless of the fact that they obviously have yet to repent?