Composition of the Blood

In Awe of Him

In Awe of Him

Major bobinfaith @anyone who has biblical education and is able to TEACH.

Could we ( not me because I'm going to LISTEN very carefully ) have a discussion about the STATE of CHRIST's being when He walked the earth?

It was brought to my attention and it has caused me some trouble in my heart... that a dear teacher of the word who appears daily on my Christian radio... was accused many years ago of being a heretic due to stating that the BLOOD of CHRIST while He was on earth was human.

If you were to ask me this question.... I would without hesitation state... that the blood of Christ was human.... but that is without any knowledge on the matter. It simply makes sense to me to believe that Jesus as man had human blood. Is this the basis of heresy?

This is really bothering me and I would love to see this matter cleared up by those men in these forums that I deeply trust.

I did not see this as a topic that is forbidden in the forums.... so if it is.... you have my permission to remove it completely.

I am NOT asking this as a means to cause strife. I am asking this as a means to clear my own understanding of this matter.

Am I wrong in believing that JESUS had human blood? He was fully human.
 
Since God is spirit, then the spirit that Jesus has is God. Since Jesus had a human body and was atoning for human sins it makes sense that his blood was human. The wages of sin is death and since we humans are the ones that sinned it stands to reason that human death is required and human blood that is used for the remission of those sins. Jesus was fully human and fully God.
 
Dave F. said:
Since God is spirit, then the spirit that Jesus has is God. Since Jesus had a human body and was atoning for human sins it makes sense that his blood was human. The wages of sin is death and since we humans are the ones that sinned it stands to reason that human death is required and human blood that is used for the remission of those sins. Jesus was fully human and fully God.
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That makes absolute and total sense to me. THANK YOU.

Edit Dave F. To be clear and what I am interested in hearing from the men of this forum is the assurance that stating Jesus had human blood is NOT heretical .... CORRECT??? Just clarifying what you have stated.

With the recognition and admission that He was both fully God and fully man.
 
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In Awe of Him said:
That makes absolute and total sense to me. THANK YOU.

Edit Dave F. To be clear and what I am interested in hearing from the men of this forum is the assurance that stating Jesus had human blood is NOT heretical .... CORRECT??? Just clarifying what you have stated.

With the recognition and admission that He was both fully God and fully man.
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No one is more Biblically correct than my friend Dave F. and he is correct in every way.

In every way, Jesus was both God and Human. He was the God man.

Now...hold on! One of the lesser-known biblical doctrines concerns whether Jesus is a man right now. Many do not know that presently, in heaven, Jesus is a man though in a glorified body.

There is no place in the Bible where it states that Jesus stopped being a man. If anything, the New Testament says He is still a man.
Colossians 2:9
“For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form”.
(Notice that in the Original Greek, "DWELLS" speaks in the present tense).
 
Major THANK you so much for this. Between you and Dave F. ... I am satisfied!!!!

I believe I can with great confidence continue to listen to this man's teachings as he made it clear that he understood that Jesus was both man and GOD. I am satisfied that the charges brought against him are FALSE.

People need to be VERY CAREFUL with the words they speak. I don't imagine GOD is impressed with those who FALSELY accuse His teachers... WOW. Don't want to be in those shoes.

Thank you for these answers.... they were what I already believed but needed to hear.

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Dave F. said:
Since God is spirit, then the spirit that Jesus has is God. Since Jesus had a human body and was atoning for human sins it makes sense that his blood was human. The wages of sin is death and since we humans are the ones that sinned it stands to reason that human death is required and human blood that is used for the remission of those sins. Jesus was fully human and fully God.
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Major said:
No one is more Biblically correct than my friend Dave F. and he is correct in every way.

In every way, Jesus was both God and Human. He was the God man.

Now...hold on! One of the lesser-known biblical doctrines concerns whether Jesus is a man right now. Many do not know that presently, in heaven, Jesus is a man though in a glorified body.

There is no place in the Bible where it states that Jesus stopped being a man. If anything, the New Testament says He is still a man.
Colossians 2:9
“For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form”.
(Notice that in the Original Greek, "DWELLS" speaks in the present tense).
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Thank you, Dave F., and Major for sharing.

God bless you.

Bob
 
In Awe of Him said:
Major THANK you so much for this. Between you and Dave F. ... I am satisfied!!!!

I believe I can with great confidence continue to listen to this man's teachings as he made it clear that he understood that Jesus was both man and GOD. I am satisfied that the charges brought against him are FALSE.

People need to be VERY CAREFUL with the words they speak. I don't imagine GOD is impressed with those who FALSELY accuse His teachers... WOW. Don't want to be in those shoes.

Thank you for these answers.... they were what I already believed but needed to hear.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shortest debate/question EVER!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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That blesses both Dave F and myself.
 
My first Pastor wrote this concerning the blood of Jesus. It comes from his book, `One Lord, one Faith,` by W.A.C. Rowe. (ch. 12. The Precious Blood of Christ.)

Think how precious was the blood of the martyrs who had been slain for the Word of God and their testimony and whose souls were under the altar. (Revelation 6: 9)

Infinitely more precious is the Blood of Christ. If the Blood of Christ was only sinless Blood it would be unique, because it would be the first and only time since the Fall of man that such had ever been in the world (Romans 3: 23); that would have made it intrinsically precious beyond degree.

But it was more than sinless Blood, it was holy Blood; for Christ`s life was a holy life in peerless and matchless degree (Hebrews 7: 26). Before the Fall, the blood of Adam was sinless and innocent blood; but there is no suggestion that he attained unto a state of holiness and that, therefore, his blood was holy. The Blood of Christ was the first holy Blood; that multiplies the intrinsic value.

Then to crown it all, in some unparalleled, inexplicable way it was divine Blood; it is therefore described as the blood of God. (Acts 20: 28) Therefore, the Blood of Christ that was shed on the cross of Calvary for the salvation of mankind, sinless, holy and divine.

The intrinsic value of the Blood of Christ was infinitely above that blood of a righteous or a good man or that of a martyr; it was the precious Blood of the divine holy Saviour of the world. The shedding of the Blood, the pouring out of that life was an act once for all - never could be repeated (Hebrews 9: 26).

The revelation of the Word of God is that the intrinsic worth of any blood is of utmost value. The intrinsic value of the precious Blood of Christ is above all imagination, assessment and degree.

(Note I put the bold in)
 
Marilyn C ... You have beautifully described what happens when one gets caught up with MEDITATING on the MAJESTY and SOVEREIGNTY of GOD..... one thing leads to another... and another and oh wait... then there's this.... THAT is how it is with a SOUL who is so IN LOVE with their SAVIOUR.

This thread went perfectly... and I am so GRATEFUL that I have my BROTHERS ( my beautiful brothers ) to depend on with wisdom and good solid teaching plus my sisters to come in and add the details in such AWESOME form.

GOD.... the one described up above.... LOVED the world so MUCH... that HE came down in HUMAN form... complete with a human body filled with human blood in order to accomplish human SALVATION for all those who would BELIEVE. WOW.

THANK YOU.... THANK YOU... THANK YOU.
 
In Awe of Him said:
t was brought to my attention and it has caused me some trouble in my heart... that a dear teacher of the word who appears daily on my Christian radio... was accused many years ago of being a heretic due to stating that the BLOOD of CHRIST while He was on earth was human.
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John gives as a clue:

But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, and at once there came out blood and water.(John 19:34 ESV)

The greek word he uses for blood is haima (Strongs G129)
KJV translates it 99x as blood
The word can be used for the blood of men or animals.

I can't find anything that would suggest that the blood of Jesus would be different from our blood when He was on this earth.
 
Sola gratia said:
I can't find anything that would suggest that the blood of Jesus would be different from our blood when He was on this earth.
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To be honest.... I never even gave this a THOUGHT until someone pointed out that one of my favourite preachers was "shunned" by fellow Christians in certain circles and labelled a heretic....for stating that the BLOOD of CHRIST was human.

Someone decided to coin the phrase..... JESUS had GOD's BLOOD and ran with it. Made up something that doesn't even EXIST.
Which seems to be what the SUPER PIOUS group of believers enjoy doing.

I'm sure that this caused much pain and anguish within the heart of this wonderful pastor/preacher... and all for NOTHING. It is sad.

Anyways.... It is what it is. I cannot change how people seem to ENJOY arrogantly making life difficult for others.
This reminds me of what the pharisees did to Jesus on a continuous basis.

I am thankful that I have a place to ask questions... and people that I TRUST to answer them truthfully.

GOD BLESS everyone.
 
In Acts 1:9, Jesus was "taken up into a cloud", leaving the simple question of where is he now? Is he in-flesh today? One must conclude yes, since his risen body is undying.

Let that sink in.
 
In Awe of Him said:
To be honest.... I never even gave this a THOUGHT until someone pointed out that one of my favourite preachers was "shunned" by fellow Christians in certain circles and labelled a heretic....for stating that the BLOOD of CHRIST was human.

Someone decided to coin the phrase..... JESUS had GOD's BLOOD and ran with it. Made up something that doesn't even EXIST.
Which seems to be what the SUPER PIOUS group of believers enjoy doing.

I'm sure that this caused much pain and anguish within the heart of this wonderful pastor/preacher... and all for NOTHING. It is sad.

Anyways.... It is what it is. I cannot change how people seem to ENJOY arrogantly making life difficult for others.
This reminds me of what the pharisees did to Jesus on a continuous basis.

I am thankful that I have a place to ask questions... and people that I TRUST to answer them truthfully.

GOD BLESS everyone.
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Good morning, In Awe of Him;

There isn't "a one thought" to your good question. I chose to put on my listening spirit (Those who have ears to hear) to read and was blessed to learn the different thoughts, teachings, understanding and Truth of Composition of the Blood / State of Christ's Being.

Good stuff.

As far as the other fellow Christians labeling this minister a heretic, no one should be judged by one presentation unless the teacher is consistently, grossly erroneous.

But alas, there are many out there. You did good, In Awe of Him, for asking your brothers and sisters at CFS, which is a good tool to use. Ask questions.

God bless you, sister.

Bob
 
In Awe of Him said:
To be honest.... I never even gave this a THOUGHT until someone pointed out that one of my favourite preachers was "shunned" by fellow Christians in certain circles and labelled a heretic....for stating that the BLOOD of CHRIST was human.

Someone decided to coin the phrase..... JESUS had GOD's BLOOD and ran with it. Made up something that doesn't even EXIST.
Which seems to be what the SUPER PIOUS group of believers enjoy doing.

I'm sure that this caused much pain and anguish within the heart of this wonderful pastor/preacher... and all for NOTHING. It is sad.

Anyways.... It is what it is. I cannot change how people seem to ENJOY arrogantly making life difficult for others.
This reminds me of what the pharisees did to Jesus on a continuous basis.

I am thankful that I have a place to ask questions... and people that I TRUST to answer them truthfully.

GOD BLESS everyone.
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I sorry this happend to the preacher. It's in cases like this, that a little love and maybe some clarification can go a long way.

I agree with what's been stated in the thread; Christ blood, human and holy.
 
My personal thoughts are -

`...that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.` (Matt. 1: 20)

`...a body you have prepared for me..` (Heb. 10: 5)

`Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death he might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil.` (Heb. 2: 14)

`The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second man is the Lord from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are heavenly.` (1 Cor. 15: 47 & 48)

Jesus was manifest on earth as a man. He had a man`s body but not the tainted blood from Adam, (sinful and disease ridden). The Lord had pure blood, (human untainted blood) imparted at conception to bring life to His physical body.
 
Marilyn C said:
Jesus was manifest on earth as a man. He had a man`s body but not the tainted blood from Adam, (sinful and disease ridden). The Lord had pure blood, (human untainted blood) imparted at conception to bring life to His physical body.
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I just really think there is A LOT of MYSTERY in this.... There is definitely much DIVINITY.... but there is also the reality that Jesus was human.

Without the BLOOD of CHRIST there is NO story... NO hope... NO salvation... NO redemption... NO forgiveness of our sins. The list goes on and on as to HOW IMPORTANT the shed BLOOD of CHRIST is.

What I have gleaned from all these wonderful contributions is this.

WE must remain prayerful regarding the WORDS we speak to others and about others.
Cancel culture is something of the secular world. It saddens me to think it being abused in the Christian world.

I am finished with my words here. I am so very grateful for such a wonderful group of believers which I also call my forum family.
 
LearningToLetGo said:
In Acts 1:9, Jesus was "taken up into a cloud", leaving the simple question of where is he now? Is he in-flesh today? One must conclude yes, since his risen body is undying.

Let that sink in.
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Jesus is still human, and He has a human body in heaven right now. However, His body is different, because earthly human flesh is perishable, but heavenly bodies are imperishable and His body is a "glorified" one.
 
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