Covenants

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2404

Covenants have an outward sign affiliated with the terms of agreement.
The rainbow covenant that God would never again flood the earth is the refraction of light through water.
The Mount Sinai covenant are a collection of do's and don'ts pointing at holiness.

Why was the Abrahamic covenant circumcision?
Scripture says the earth was filled with violence why would not then a covenant symbolically - be the removal of a tooth or nail (eg)?
Why was Jesus's coming a spoken word and not related to sexual means?
 
2404 said:
Covenants have an outward sign affiliated with the terms of agreement.
The rainbow covenant that God would never again flood the earth is the refraction of light through water.
The Mount Sinai covenant are a collection of do's and don'ts pointing at holiness.

Why was the Abrahamic covenant circumcision?
Scripture says the earth was filled with violence why would not then a covenant symbolically - be the removal of a tooth or nail (eg)?
Why was Jesus's coming a spoken word and not related to sexual means?
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With regard to the Abrahamic covenan, one way to settle down aggressive male animals is to neuter them.

Maybe, when circumcision is said to be a rite that sets male humans apart from animals was thought a means of settling down the violent nature of the male in a Patriarchal power system.
 
Well that's interesting.
Taming the human spirit.
Does that go together with faith?
Was Abraham considered righteous because of the taming effect?
 
Damascus said:
Maybe, when circumcision is said to be a rite that sets male humans apart from animals was thought a means of settling down the violent nature of the male in a Patriarchal power system.
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2404 said:
Was Abraham considered righteous because of the taming effect?
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These really are some interesting ideas and unique ways of looking at Gods law. I don’t track with some of it, but enjoy reading the interpretations.

In scripture I find that God gave Abraham the rite of circumcision as the specific sign of the Abrahamic Covenant. The covenant, being a lifelong mark in their flesh, symbolizes that they were part of God’s physical blessing in the world. Any descendant of Abraham who refused circumcision was declaring himself to be outside of God’s covenant.
See: Genesis 17:9-14.

However, even the Law acknowledged that physical circumcision alone was insufficient to please God, who specified the need to “circumcise your hearts”

See Deuteronomy 10:16:
“So circumcise your heart, and do not stiffen your neck any longer”.

So, in the new covenant, as Christians, we are circumcised in our hearts and the covenant that God has made with us by the blood of Jesus Christ!

God bless.
 
blueskies said:
These really are some interesting ideas and unique ways of looking at Gods law. I don’t track with some of it, but enjoy reading the interpretations.

In scripture I find that God gave Abraham the rite of circumcision as the specific sign of the Abrahamic Covenant. The covenant, being a lifelong mark in their flesh, symbolizes that they were part of God’s physical blessing in the world. Any descendant of Abraham who refused circumcision was declaring himself to be outside of God’s covenant.
See: Genesis 17:9-14.

However, even the Law acknowledged that physical circumcision alone was insufficient to please God, who specified the need to “circumcise your hearts”

See Deuteronomy 10:16:
“So circumcise your heart, and do not stiffen your neck any longer”.

So, in the new covenant, as Christians, we are circumcised in our hearts and the covenant that God has made with us by the blood of Jesus Christ!

God bless.
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"Man is the only animal that blushes - and the only animal that needs to!" Professor C.E.M. Joad



What was the nature of that covenant?

All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fish, another of birds (1 Corinthians 15:39)


In the day that God created man. He made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created (Genesis 5:1,2)
 
2404 said:
Well that's interesting.
Taming the human spirit.
Does that go together with faith?
Was Abraham considered righteous because of the taming effect?
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Maybe he was righteous because of the affect of the taming of his carnal natural mind spirit?
 
Consider when Jesus quoted Psalms 32:6 in St. John 10:34 'Ye are gods' (small 'g').
God is a creator, we are creators (eg we create atmospheres etc) separates us from animals. When God says something it happens, by faith (which is by revelation) we can move mountains... Adam spoke - and it was for it was not him speaking but God through him. Then man fell and things changed. How has it changed? Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil - now we rely on intellect, and we fail. But what does the perfect look like? Again, how are we born in sin?
 
Adams sin is passed on through all mankind, likewise the atonement of Christ Jesus is applied for all who will accept the gift of salvation.
 
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