Does Everything Have to Always Make Sense?

LearningToLetGo

LearningToLetGo

The size of the set of all positive numbers is infinite.
The size of the set of all positive and negative numbers is infinite.
The entirety of the first set is contained within the second set.
Which set is bigger?
Is infinite not infinite?
Can one example of infinity be greater than another?
Does everything have to always make sense?
 
LearningToLetGo said:
The size of the set of all positive numbers is infinite.
The size of the set of all positive and negative numbers is infinite.
The entirety of the first set is contained within the second set.
Which set is bigger?
Is infinite not infinite?
Can one example of infinity be greater than another?
Does everything have to always make sense?
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I for example to this day, to me it makes NO sense how a spoken word into a plastic box of wires can be heard across the world!!!!

When hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, FEMA paid out hundreds of millions of excess dollars. For example, they are still paying on housing for the evacuees. They initially gave each evacuee 500 hundred dollars to buy food and clothing and shelter, and huge numbers of the recipients used that cash for drugs, prostitutes, and similar items and then complained that they needed food, clothing, and housing. The sensible policy would have been to give these people vouchers which could be redeemed only for food, clothing, and shelter.
 
Major said:
They initially gave each evacuee 500 hundred dollars to buy food and clothing and shelter, and huge numbers of the recipients used that cash for drugs, prostitutes, and similar items and then complained that they needed food, clothing, and housing.
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It just goes to show that in the absence of force, people will do what people will do.

"For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away."
Matthew 25:29

The above verse has always struck me as rather callous and quite unlike Jesus' sermon on the mount. However, he does go on to curse a fig tree that bears no fruit so there is precedent for such teachings. How can we reconcile forgiving seventy times seven times with such apparent indifference?
 
LearningToLetGo said:
It just goes to show that in the absence of force, people will do what people will do.

"For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away."
Matthew 25:29

The above verse has always struck me as rather callous and quite unlike Jesus' sermon on the mount. However, he does go on to curse a fig tree that bears no fruit so there is precedent for such teachings. How can we reconcile forgiving seventy times seven times with such apparent indifference?
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It is callous but it is also very "CAPTILISTIC" in that the man who actually does work will be blessed more than the man who is lazy.

Bible says that ....."The man who does not care for his family is less than an infidel".

Jesus says that the man with ten talents has been the most productive with what he has been given by the master (Matthew 25:16). The one with one talent did absolutely nothing with it. If the master wants the most gain from his investment, he should take that one talent and give it to the one who has the most.

The principle illustrates an important truth for followers of Jesus:........
It matters that we make much of what He gives to us for His good. It matters both for us and to Him. Those who trust in Jesus, work for Jesus are those who are rewarded with more opportunities to serve Him and make good use of what they have been given. Those who refuse to work for Him, on the other hand, are just pretending to be His servants and there is a payday coming.
 
Greetings:

After a long time positive numbers become negative because there isn't any space left for them
while negative numbers don't take up any space if they avoid multipling and can use the space that positive numbers vacate while failing to maintain their collapsing usage space. The proof is in the mail.

bye
 
krossquad said:
Greetings:

After a long time positive numbers become negative because there isn't any space left for them
while negative numbers don't take up any space if they avoid multipling and can use the space that positive numbers vacate while failing to maintain their collapsing usage space. The proof is in the mail.

bye
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I do not understand what you are saying. Can you simplify it?
 
LearningToLetGo said:
Does everything have to always make sense?
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Hello LearningToLetGo, I'll put a bit of a different twist on this (because this is what often seems to come from a mind as different as mine is ;)).

My answer to your question is "no", because we know there are many things that are/will remain mysterious to us (to one degree or another) on this side of the grave, but it is also wonderful to remember/consider that everything that we ~need~ to understand, everything that ~needs~ to make sense to us, will (because God has made it so by revealing all of those things to us, and by giving us, His saints, the ability that we need to know, accept, and understand all of the necessary things from His spiritual POV .. e.g. 1 Corinthians 2:12-16 cf John 3:3, AMEN :)).

God bless you!!

--Papa Smurf
p.s. - I apologize for the thread drift, and I hope that this doesn't cause any problems for your thread (it's just where my mind went when I read the last sentence in your OP).

Deuteronomy 29​
29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.​
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krossquad said:
Greetings:

After a long time positive numbers become negative because there isn't any space left for them
while negative numbers don't take up any space if they avoid multipling and can use the space that positive numbers vacate while failing to maintain their collapsing usage space. The proof is in the mail.

bye
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Does that synch with the 'understanding' that space as we know it is a creation and so it is finite?
 
krossquad said:
After a long time positive numbers become negative because there isn't any space left for them
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This may be true in computer science but that's only because modern machine CPU architecture has a fixed-sized word in which to represent numbers. I don't think numbers actually operate like this in the "real" world.
 
LearningToLetGo said:
This may be true in computer science but that's only because modern machine CPU architecture has a fixed-sized word in which to represent numbers. I don't think numbers actually operate like this in the "real" world.
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What is real?
Scripture tell us that those things that are seen are made by that which is not seen.
 
I bought a book today for the school library called Instant Maths.
I haven't read it yet but it promises to have all the answers instantly.
There's also Instant Science and Instant Engineering, but the store was out of Instant History.

I think Jesus may have been referring to compound interest in Matthew 25:29
Unfortunately that seems to be the case the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
However we are all given a measure of faith...so even mustard seed size faith can grow into a huge tree. But it's just those with NO faith will really lose everything.

This is tempered by 'The first shall be last and the last shall be first' is often the case though. When I call the roll I go from first to last one week and last to first the next to make it fair. Those in the exact middle are never first nor last though lol.
 
2404 said:
What is real?
Scripture tell us that those things that are seen are made by that which is not seen.
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Very true, very true indeed. All we know comes from perception and perception can be fooled. Although we have other senses. We can think, and by thinking know. We also feel, and by feeling know. But still, what is real? Is it what we accept as such?
 
LearningToLetGo said:
Very true, very true indeed. All we know comes from perception and perception can be fooled. Although we have other senses. We can think, and by thinking know. We also feel, and by feeling know. But still, what is real? Is it what we accept as such?
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'Is it what we accept as such' I think there is some truth to that, for we know that faith is a law - 'all things are possible only believe'.

I expect we would agree that the eternal realm is reality and anything outside of that is a perversion where death reigns.
A person can't help but wonder what will transpire when the dead in Christ shall rise. I sure we won't even think about looking back.
 
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But still, what is real? Is it what we accept as such?
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There is a pessimist view and an optimistic one.

Without Faith:
“Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.” - Democritus

With Faith:
“Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” John 20:29, KJV
 
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blueskies said:
There is a pessimist view and an optimistic one.

Without Faith:
“Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.” - Democritus

With Faith:
“Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” John 20:29, KJV
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Personally, I believe and always have that the written Word of God is objective truth which is then reality!

God's Word is reality, as contrasted to fantasy or vanity or dreams or what we think.
All of those are "subjective" and are open to persoanl opinons and personal interpretations.

It is to me, imperative to understand this because, if we are going to use the Word of God in the right way, to lead our lives by it, we have to believe it. We not only have to believe it, we must trust it. When Jesus says that God's Word is truth, and that we are sanctified by that Word, we need to understand it from the point of view, the perspective, of God: .........
that His Word is pure, genuine, factual, and reality—and all these are contrasted to man's word.

Despite having the best of intentions and sincerity, man cannot even begin to come close to ultimate truth of the Word of God.
 
Major said:
God's Word is reality, as contrasted to fantasy or vanity or dreams or what we think.
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Are you referring to God's generative word wherein he speaks creation into existence, e.g. 'Let there be light'?
Or are you referring to God's manifest word in the form of Jesus?
Or are you referring to God's written word, i.e. scripture?

Or perhaps all of the above?
 
LearningToLetGo said:
Are you referring to God's generative word wherein he speaks creation into existence, e.g. 'Let there be light'?
Or are you referring to God's manifest word in the form of Jesus?
Or are you referring to God's written word, i.e. scripture?

Or perhaps all of the above?
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Excellent question!

ALL of the above = the same thing.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the ONE who spoke the reality of Creation into existence.
Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh so that He, God could tabernacle with men.
God's written Word is the truth of God's thoughts.

Psalm 119:160............ "The entirety of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever."
 
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