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I'm curious, what would your solution be?

I ask this as someone who pays child support. I realize that not all fathers would pay for the children that they help create if it weren't for child support. My ex-girlfriend who I was in a relationship for 10 years and whom I have five children with didn't want child support. She knew that if she needed it for the kids she would ask me. If I couldn't get it, there was a very good reason why and she was fine with that. She trusted that I would do the right thing, and I would, every single time. My ex-wife, the mother of my two youngest is the complete opposite and goes for my child support every chance she can. She has said that if I have to work three jobs, then so be it. When I ask when I would have time to spend with my children and she said not her problem.

Two very different people, with different ways of looking at things.
 
I'm curious, what would your solution be?

I ask this as someone who pays child support. I realize that not all fathers would pay for the children that they help create if it weren't for child support. My ex-girlfriend who I was in a relationship for 10 years and whom I have five children with didn't want child support. She knew that if she needed it for the kids she would ask me. If I couldn't get it, there was a very good reason why and she was fine with that. She trusted that I would do the right thing, and I would, every single time. My ex-wife, the mother of my two youngest is the complete opposite and goes for my child support every chance she can. She has said that if I have to work three jobs, then so be it. When I ask when I would have time to spend with my children and she said not her problem.

Two very different people, with different ways of looking at things.

Nao, I'm not in the business of telling others what they should do in such matters. This thread is ONLY showing the inner corruption of many states. The monies collected for child support should ALL go for that support rather than the incentive of extorting more money ouf of all those fathers to ALSO support the pension retirement of judges and their staff, that's just plain messed up. Incentives like this only fuel the fires of even more injustices in a system that's supposed to be blind justice.

MM
 
Nao, I'm not in the business of telling others what they should do in such matters. This thread is ONLY showing the inner corruption of many states. The monies collected for child support should ALL go for that support rather than the incentive of extorting more money ouf of all those fathers to ALSO support the pension retirement of judges and their staff, that's just plain messed up. Incentives like this only fuel the fires of even more injustices in a system that's supposed to be blind justice.

MM

I am not asking you to tell me what to do. I am asking what your solution is. I am fine with the situation I am in. Do I enjoy having to go to court every three years because of how greedy my ex-wife is? Nope. But it is what it is.

Just curious what your solution is to this corruption you are speaking of.
 
Ah. Well, in that context, the pension finds should come from the same pool of money the judicials have no control over in order to pad it with through various means of which are hard to trace and prove as being illegal. Very simple, really.

MM
 
I am not asking you to tell me what to do. I am asking what your solution is. I am fine with the situation I am in. Do I enjoy having to go to court every three years because of how greedy my ex-wife is? Nope. But it is what it is.

Just curious what your solution is to this corruption you are speaking of.
imo the child support system is out of control.. i am no expert never had to pay it BUT have known men who did. dont take this wrong but when support is paid there should be full documentation made of the support . what was it spent on? was it all for the child? receipts should be presented . i have seen women squander Child support and i have seen men avoid paying it.

our court system needs real reform . if the father pays the support he should be able to see the kids and do things with them. in three words its a mess
 
I'm curious, what would your solution be? I ask this as someone who pays child support. I realize that not all fathers would pay for the children that they help create if it weren't for child support. My ex-girlfriend who I was in a relationship for 10 years and whom I have five children with didn't want child support. She knew that if she needed it for the kids she would ask me. If I couldn't get it, there was a very good reason why and she was fine with that. She trusted that I would do the right thing, and I would, every single time. My ex-wife, the mother of my two youngest is the complete opposite and goes for my child support every chance she can. She has said that if I have to work three jobs, then so be it. When I ask when I would have time to spend with my children and she said not her problem. Two very different people, with different ways of looking at things.
I am not asking you to tell me what to do. I am asking what your solution is. I am fine with the situation I am in. Do I enjoy having to go to court every three years because of how greedy my ex-wife is? Nope. But it is what it is. Just curious what your solution is to this corruption you are speaking of.

Hello naomanos;

I remember some time ago we were praying for you and your girlfriend of 5 years. Is she the mother of your 3 children? I know you already mentioned your ex-wife is the mother of your two youngest.

At another church I pastored 11 years ago there were 3 families in your situation. In all instances the husband hired an affordable attorney. They presented his wages and assets on the table (and the wages and assets of the wife) and presented it to each other, their attorneys and the court.

In the long discussion regarding their finances - income, mortgage or rent, car payment, medical bennies for the kids, parental visitation, etc...the court adjudicated the arrangements.

The KEY to these difficult divorces was that God was in the center of their prayers and deliverance, not the corrupted solutions. God made a way and broke down the darkness of greed between marriage and the court, hatred between the husband and wife, lost love for the welfare of the children, selfless act when one or the other increased their money. The whole breakdown in the marriage was redeemed by God over the care of their children.
Even in divorce and every excuse to leave out God, He can make a way through the most humanly worldly thinking and court system. God will make a way if only broken marriages will let Him. God is an awesome God with His unlimited finality.

Your 5 children are no doubt precious in your eyes, Naomanos, and am praying that God will send a Christian marriage counselor to consult you and your circumstances.


God bless you, brother.





 
I remember some time ago we were praying for you and your girlfriend of 5 years. Is she the mother of your 3 children?

No, we have no children together and when married will not have children together as I am snipped and she is on birth control. She does have one of her own though from her first marriage. Funny thing is that when she was younger she wanted eight children. With my seven and her one, she has eight children.

My ex-girlfriend who I was with for 10 years and who didn't want to get married is the mother of my five older children.
In all instances the husband hired an affordable attorney.

I had an attorney for the divorce and the two children from that marriage. It was a pro-bono lawyer. The divorce happened in 2016. My ex-wife has since taken me back for more child support, where she had a lawyer, but I didn't. I represented myself and was able to have the child support amount that she was seeking lowered, not pay attorney's fees, and keep the two children on my private health insurance. My fiance and I consider that a win.

hatred between the husband and wife

I have no hatred for my ex-wife. She claims to be a Christian, but her actions show otherwise. Her new husband also claims to be a Christian, but his actions show otherwise as well.
Your 5 children are no doubt precious in your eyes, Naomanos, and am praying that God will send a Christian marriage counselor to consult you and your circumstances.

My five children, four being over the age of 19 and the 16 year old who is currently living with me have never been an issue. Their mom didn't want child support but was forced to because the kids were on Medicaid. Their mom and I have a great relationship and that relationship extends to my fiance and her fiance as far as the friendship goes.

I am not in need of Christian counseling for any of this. I hold no ill will towards my ex-wife or her husband and constantly remind those around me that they will hold no ill will towards her or her husband either. They can continue to be greedy, cut me down, and do whatever they want toward me, but my reward at the end of this will be my children.
 
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No, we have no children together and when married will not have children together as I am snipped and she is on birth control. She does have one of her own though from her first marriage. Funny thing is that when she was younger she wanted eight children. With my seven and her one, she has eight children.

My ex-girlfriend who I was with for 10 years and who didn't want to get married is the mother of my five older children.


I had an attorney for the divorce and the two children from that marriage. It was a pro-bono lawyer. The divorce happened in 2016. My ex-wife has since taken me back for more child support, where she had a lawyer, but I didn't. I represented myself and was able to have the child support amount that she was seeking lowered, not pay attorney's fees, and keep the two children on my private health insurance. My fiance and I consider that a win.



I have no hatred for my ex-wife. She claims to be a Christian, but her actions show otherwise. Her new husband also claims to be a Christian, but his actions show otherwise as well.


My five children, four being over the age of 19 and the 16 year old who is currently living with me have never been an issue. Their mom didn't want child support but was forced to because the kids were on Medicaid. Their mom and I have a great relationship and that relationship extends to my fiance and her fiance as far as the friendship goes.

I am not in need of Christian counseling for any of this. I hold no ill will towards my ex-wife or her husband and constantly remind those around me that they will hold no ill will towards her or her husband either. They can continue to be greedy, cut me down, and do whatever they want toward me, but my reward at the end of this will be my children.

Hello naomanos;

God bless and be with you, brother, in your all in all for your children and their Mom.
 
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