Forum based bible study group. Book: Job, Chapter 4
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Right away Eliphaz accuses Job of sin and that this sin is the cause of his suffering.
Job 4:5-7 But now it is come upon thee, and thou faintest; it toucheth thee, and thou art troubled. 6 Is not this thy fear, thy confidence, thy hope, and the uprightness of thy ways? 7 Remember, I pray thee, who ever perished, being innocent? or where were the righteous cut off? (KJV)
but we know the righteous also are allowed to suffer at times as well. Assuming that troubles, sickness, persecution, etc. only come of sin is part of why later God is upset with Job's three friends. He is also saying that Job was not upright in his ways, perhaps self-righteous.
Yet God said:
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? (KJV)
Satan himself did argue the point with God:
Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? (KJV)
Job 4:5-7 But now it is come upon thee, and thou faintest; it toucheth thee, and thou art troubled. 6 Is not this thy fear, thy confidence, thy hope, and the uprightness of thy ways? 7 Remember, I pray thee, who ever perished, being innocent? or where were the righteous cut off? (KJV)
but we know the righteous also are allowed to suffer at times as well. Assuming that troubles, sickness, persecution, etc. only come of sin is part of why later God is upset with Job's three friends. He is also saying that Job was not upright in his ways, perhaps self-righteous.
Yet God said:
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? (KJV)
Satan himself did argue the point with God:
Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? (KJV)
Eliphaz makes this judgment equating it to Job's situation. First accusing Job of seeing himself as more righteous than God.
Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? (KJV)
Then he makes this statement claiming Job's lack of wisdom due to his conceit in thinking himself more righteous than God.
Job 4:21 Doth not their excellency which is in them go away? they die, even without wisdom. (KJV)
Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? (KJV)
Then he makes this statement claiming Job's lack of wisdom due to his conceit in thinking himself more righteous than God.
Job 4:21 Doth not their excellency which is in them go away? they die, even without wisdom. (KJV)
I love the imagery that Eliphaz uses of men:
Job 4:19-20 How much less in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which are crushed before the moth? 20 They are destroyed from morning to evening: they perish for ever without any regarding it. (KJV)
We are founded on dust mere houses of clay easily crushed even by a moth. We are in a constant state of decay.
Yet finding ourselves in this state and yet so many are not humbled by these circumstances.
Job 4:19-20 How much less in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which are crushed before the moth? 20 They are destroyed from morning to evening: they perish for ever without any regarding it. (KJV)
We are founded on dust mere houses of clay easily crushed even by a moth. We are in a constant state of decay.
Yet finding ourselves in this state and yet so many are not humbled by these circumstances.