- Jul 17, 2013
How much sinning can I do and still stay saved?
Since the wages of sin is death, Death then is "separation" from God eternally.As many as you want to 1 Cor 10:23, ...but because of the unavoidable repercussions of the Spiritual Principle of Rom 6:23, the wages of sin is death, ...death will enter into your physical body, there will be a death in your emotional life and there will be the death of your spiritual life, ...hereafter in Eternity, you will lack the rewards from service and faith.
A careful reading/understanding of Hebrews 10:14 has nothing to do with your first question.
I'm not a Greek scholar, so if there is some one here that is please chime, but from my simple book, "Learn Greek in 25 Lessons," the word perfected - teleioō is in the Perfect Active Indicative tense, which means in layman's language, ...it's a done deal, so those who are in Christ are already perfect in the eyes of the Father.To be perfected forever is what it says -- those who have been sanctified. Those who are sanctified are the ones who have reached the Kingdom of Heaven.
The secret imho is in a study on Jesus's advice on marriage. Whatever advice He gives on it is very applicable to us Christians! The Jews were dating God, we are in a full relationship with Him. So the question becomes...as the bride of Christ, how can we lose our salvation?How much sinning can I do and still stay saved?
Yes my friend, I agree, .......David sinned and look at what happened to him. Even though he loved God, he sinned and God had to judge him for it. Remember, it was some time before David confessed what he had done and even then he did not do it on his own accord. God had to send a prophet to confront him.I'm not following you here Major, those of us who are born again do reap the repercussions of our sin, even though we are pardoned, just look at the life of David for example, ...and then an example in a believers life today if he/she should decide to have an extramaritial affair, they are still saved, that sin was paid for on the cross, but if they contract AIDS then there will be death (seperation of soul & spirit from the body) forcoming, and there could be a death of their marriage (seperation emotional/soulish), and during the time they were in sin their relationship with the Lord was dead (seperation spiritual), so for a believer we can be sure our sin will find us out Num 32:23 and even though saved there will be repercussions, ...the salary must be paid, it's a Spiritual Principal.
Yes sir! David paid greatly for his sin. The rest of his life was a burden and not a blessing!Mornin' Bro, top of the morning to ya!
I agree with you completely, I was just pointing out another facet of the subject, ...using David as an example, he was a man after God's own heart, but the Spiritual Principal was still in force in his life, the baby conceived in fornication with Bathsheba died, Amnon raped his sister, Absalom rebelled and took over the Kingdom, defiling David's concubines and in his advanced age he probably had a problem with his circulatory system and experienced coldness in his limbs, personally I believe these problems came about in his life because he was reaping the salary of his sins.
In my own life I believe the Lord has shown me there have been attacks by the devil (just like Job) that has caused me injury and when the test was over the Lord healed me, but then, because of my debauched life of 37 years before I was saved there are illnesses that are the reaping from my sinful life style.
The Spiritual Principal behind the wages of sin is death, in whatever form it might take, cannot be circumvented any more than the Physical Principles of gravity, inertia, centrifugal force, et. al. can be ignored, ...unless God steps in in His unfathomable mercy and grace, ...and I'm convinced He does that in the lives of all people, saved or unsaved, ...because if He didn't this planet would be void of human life.
The more I walk with Him, the longer I talk with Him, the more I get to know Him, the more I'm blessed by Him and see and learn what a vile, despicable worm that I am ........I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface of the subject of His Grace..........
The use of "perfected" involves the completed cleansing of regeneration (Titus 3:5).What does being perfected forever mean?
He may only be asking in a more matter of fact basis rather than what he wants to get away with. One hopes it's the former.I'm floored that a person, claiming the name of the Christ for their own, would disregard the children on the web and ask such a question. The crux of the matter lies in motive. The LORD knows our heart and if you "plan" to sin just one sin, it is wise to examine yourself because the Christian is not concerned with such a matter unless they are Christian, only, by membership in a local Church. You will not get away with a single planned sin. This, once again, calls for a good study, perhaps from the Nave's Topical.