good luck indeed...so long as Hamas is in charge, and remains dedicated to the wholesale erradication of Israel as a nation.
-The destruction of Israel is the reason Hamas was formed, they have never supported the two state option, if they do so now it will only be under their interpretation of the right of return...which would destroy Israel demographically (win-win for Hamas)
They have also openly stated that they will only make compromises as a stepping stone towards their long term goal...hence the use of the word "temporary".
-If Abbas is in charge why did he have to flee Gaza?
-I agree that it was ill advised for Israel to expand settlements...but contrary to popular opinion the land was not illegally obtained,
it was captured in a defensive war. Since when have countries been expected to return land obtained in self defense against an outside agressor?
And what of the land Israel gave up in Gaza...what is it like there now compared to under Israeli rule?
When has surrenduring land ever given Israel any peace?
Israel...Has anyone here REALLY taken a look at Israel...geographically speaking.
They are TINY. I mean...REALLY, REALLY tiny. I can drive from one end of Florida to the other in a few hours. We are a dinky little state. Yet, Israel would fit into Florida 7 times!!!
Take a look at the map. See the little red do surrounding by nearly every hostile country in the world?
Did I say Muslims = Hostile? Why did you choose to assume that?
My point was completely and totally clear. They are tiny. That's all I said. TINY.
Israel told the international community that it would allow the right of return. It was required of them to abide by the UN resolution that would grant the right of return for Palestinian refugees who had their private property and citizenship status taken from them. Israel is now a member of the UN but has made no progress towards allowing the right of return as they promised to do.
Israel has made the same statements. Ben Gurion, Israel's first prime minister said himself that he would only accept the UN greenlines as a temporary solution
while Israel built itself up. He then advocated abolishing the Palestinian state and expanding into the whole of Israel. The same thing was said after ISrael gave the Sinai back to Egypt. It was declared a temporary solution with a promise that Israel would once more expand and lay claim to all of greater Israel. Such though exists in modern Israeli politics as well.
If Hamas is in charge then why are none of their government workers getting paid in the West Bank? Neither side is in absolute control and implying that Hamas is "in control" is misleading.
Private property both in Israel and in the territories was taken by Israel and the Arabs were kicked out under the absentee land laws that Israel passed (these laws didn't apply to Jews).
I don't care if Israel owns the land, the problem is that it is unwilling to extend citizenship rights and equal law protection to Arabs in the region. Thus trapping them in a legal limbo. Israel wants the land but not the people who come with it. This sets the stage for many human rights abuses, including several violations of the Fourth Geneva conventions.
The problem is they didn't simply take governmental control over it, they took private land away from civilians and gave it to Jewish settlers. They are pushing to expell Arabs from the region. I would have no problem with Israel annexing the land if this legal limbo didn't exist.
seekinghokmah said:First let me state that I respect your views, and I respond in the interest of constructive discussion rather than hostile reproach. This is by nature a thorny topic, so please do not interpret my responses as indicative of a personal attack…that is by no means my intention.
Has anyone here read this book:
Joan Peters' book From Time Immemorial was commisioned by Yasser Arafat to show that the land of palestine belonged to tha arabs. In truth their never existed a palestinian people and most " palestinains" are infact from syria and surrounding countries. Indeed the average palestinian thousand of years ago was Jewish. Mr. Arafat offered Mrs. Peters a loarge amount of money not to publish this book.
I choose to bless Israel and I know God's promise to her people still hold's true.