The Garden Tree

Various could be the imaginations of what man’s life might have been without the fall, but I believe one concept may be fairly certain. Man would not have known, nor partaken of God’s Son and Spirit in the presently needed capacity. There would be no need of being one in spirit with the Trinity, for man would then have no need of such union; as a union being “in” one far surpasses merely being “with” one (Christianity – being in God: Judaism – being with God).

Surely it cannot be disagreed that God’s purpose for creating was to glorify Himself, and too spacious are the scriptural passages attesting to this truth to include here. It’s my understanding that the greatest of that which glorifies God, after creation, is His attribute of holiness (then love, etc.). I believe Adam may not have been familiar with the meaning of right and wrong until they were “contrasted” with one another, via the commands of that which he may do (Gen 2:16) and that which he may not do (v 17). The same concerns the knowing of God’s holiness via the contrast of evil, similar to the learning of light via first the presence of darkness (and creation was dark before it was lighted – Gen 1:2, 3).

My perception of “Our image, after Our likeness” in verse 26 of the Bible’s first Chapter is that “image” refers to what God looks like (head, eyes, ears, arms, hands, etc.); and “likeness” refers to God’s autonomy (thinking, reasoning, choosing, etc.). God desires us to choose Him (Deu 30:19; 1Tim 2:4; 2Pet 3:9), and in so doing He prepares the believer to trustingly endure the infirmities and difficulties which must be encountered via the sin nature, in order to teach us that which is of His holy nature.

Therefore, I think this answers to the reason of His foreknowledge and use concerning the pair on the ground choosing to partake of the apple on the Tree (pun, assuming an apple), through their enlightenment concerning “good and evil.” They could not (even today) know of God’s holiness without comparing it to evil, and so the serpent (per usual) brings forth an admixture of truth and error in saying, “ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil”; which is close to the truth that “ye shall be as God, knowing good and evil (which is a likeness of Him).

One cannot misunderstand that God foreknew man would partake of the Tree (in His omniscience), and the intent of this article is to assure believers that He’s using everything—from the beginning of the present heaven and earth—to the new heaven and earth, for glorifying Himself, especially in believers, “according to His good pleasure which He has purposed in Himself” (Eph 1:9). Believers are never left to themselves in anything (Jhn 14:6; Josh 1:5; Psa 37:25)!

NC
 
Various could be the imaginations of what man’s life might have been without the fall, but I believe one concept may be fairly certain. Man would not have known, nor partaken of God’s Son and Spirit in the presently needed capacity. There would be no need of being one in spirit with the Trinity, for man would then have no need of such union; as a union being “in” one far surpasses merely being “with” one (Christianity – being in God: Judaism – being with God). – Gen 1:2, 3 NC

Hello Netchaplain;

I want to share my thought regarding The Garden Tree. If the Fall had not occured Adam and Eve would have lived with God forever, produced fruit (generations of children, including us) and also enjoy paradise. There would be no need to labor or toil, there would be no birth pains, we would all be sinless and there would be endless joy with God.

The tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were both symbolic, with the latter implying that evil already existed, but Adam and Eve would have chosen to be obedient to God and only eat from the tree of life.


I believe the Triune - God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit would still exist (since they were already One in God's Creation) but with a different purpose.

Would you consider this an additional concept?

God bless you and your family, brother.
 
Hello Netchaplain;

I want to share my thought regarding The Garden Tree. If the Fall had not occured Adam and Eve would have lived with God forever, produced fruit (generations of children, including us) and also enjoy paradise. There would be no need to labor or toil, there would be no birth pains, we would all be sinless and there would be endless joy with God.

The tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were both symbolic, with the latter implying that evil already existed, but Adam and Eve would have chosen to be obedient to God and only eat from the tree of life.


I believe the Triune - God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit would still exist (since they were already One in God's Creation) but with a different purpose.

Would you consider this an additional concept?

God bless you and your family, brother.
Hi Brother, and yes--mostly! I think the most significant issue is that of man's place being either with God or in Him, which are vastly different. The Spirit "abiding with you forever" (Jhn 14:16) is by some commentators seemingly limited to this life, but it's my belief that this union is eternal, considering that's how the Father and the Lord Jesus are in us now, and I find Rev 22:17 seemingly supportive in this understanding.

Another issue I find interesting and am still looking at is the preexistence of man's error prior to the disobedience. They expressed the desire to be "wise" like God before they partook (Gen 3:6). Though I wouldn't think their motive was in the same sense as the serpent's, to "be like the most High" (Isa 14:14), I do think their motive was just to be more like God in the sense of child-ship, not Deity.
 
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