There I Am!

Though the old man’s ways beset, yet only for a time
Till the saint sees it clear, to lay them all behind

The skies now cloud-cleared, and as oft as thou would
No troubles or disappointments, but walking as thou should

Now standing through assails, encouraged with all might
Ever seeing Jesus, in heaven with all sight

This the lot of saints, while below in joyful role
Persisting by the Father, life’s ever blessed goal


Hebrews 12:1, 2
John 14:1, 27
Rom 14:4; Phl 3:20
Phl 2:13; 4:4

NC







There I Am!


“Have you ever thought of the Father dealing with you not as to what you are in yourself, but as to where He has positioned you in His Son? Have you ever thought that it is the affections of the Father’s heart which flow down to us where we are, seeing us in the Son, not in our poor wretched selves? What we were in the old man is not the thing to scan, but what we are, and where we are in the Son (Ro 8:9; Eph 2:6—NC); and what there is in the living affections of the Father, who has raised us up together with His Son, and has given us all heavenly blessings in Him (2Pe 1:3).” —G V Wigram (1805-1879)

“The lack in souls is, that while they know that their sins are forgiven, they do not know their new place (which weakens the walk—NC). What place have you? Is it earth or heaven (though saved, there is a certain amount of time needed for one to learn to walk spiritually instead of naturally - Gal 5:25; Phl 3:20—NC)? It could not possibly be earth, for Christ was rejected from the earth. It has a great moral effect upon a person to be able to say, “I have a place in heaven, I have no property on earth at all, it is all in heaven. It is the Lord’s property I have on earth (Psa 24:1), but in heaven I have my own. In the Garden of Eden, man lost his place, man is lost; but the question to him then is first, “Where art thou?” Then, “What hast thou done?” Every believer seeks to be clear as to the latter, but very few are clear about the former.

“Most do not go beyond His resurrection (they don’t see themselves presently and eternally in heaven where He now is—NC); they do not extend to His ascension. They do not know the Lord Jesus in glory (only in His salvific work—NC). They are occupied with Him in relation to their own side (as presently on earth without realizing our present and eternal position in heaven—NC). He was at my side and glorified the Father perfectly in His walk here, and in death; but He is now at His own side, and it is there I intelligently realize the vastness of my life in Him, for He is my Life (Col 3:4). His death, resurrection and ascension translated the believer from his own side to His side, so that “as He is, so are we in this world” (1Jo 4:17); and according as we are at full rest about ourselves, we are occupied with Him who has set us free.

“‘Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth’ (Col3:2). For this I need to keep my heart more fixed upon the place where the Lord Jesus is. Nothing will draw my heart there like dwelling on the delight the Father has that I should be there (as certain as we are here now—NC), and the delight of the One who has brought me there. There I learn the blessedness and the freshness of His love, and there I become qualified to stand for Him in the place where He is not.”

—J B Stoney (1814-1897)

“Our growth (ceaseless until we leave here—NC) is wrought out in our lives down here; but it is formed up there in fellowship with the Lord Jesus, where our affections and minds get into the condition to be manifested down here.” —J N Darby (1800-1882)

“The grace that saves from death and judgment, with present forgiveness of sins, is much clouded with uncertainty; so that the fullness of grace in seating us in the Lord Jesus in heaven is rarely heard of, much less known and believed in as a present reality. No wonder therefore, that the ground of an earthly people is accepted (walking worldly more than godly—NC), and Jewish things initiated (still walking in the “shadow” and not the “image” - Heb 10:1; Col 2:17—NC); as if what was, should still be in experience and practice, rather than what is, since Christ has come and is gone back to heaven. Eternal redemption, eternal life, present seated position in Christ before the Father, in the abiding rest and peace of a complete salvation, are nevertheless for today (one can have this and not realize it, thus not walk in the encouragement of it—NC). Happy they who receive in their simplicity these blessed realities, as beyond all question.” —G Gardner (1869-1935)




MJS devotional excerpt for July 21

“Our Father delights in having us with Himself. Love yearns to satisfy itself about me. It is not only that I can go in, but a much greater thing—my Father, in all His majesty and glory, can come out! All is equipoised. Not only have I entree, but I am shaped to the grandeur of the scene, conformed to the glory of God. Not admitted like a stranger, but changed into the same image; not to equality but similarity; transformed into moral correspondence.”

 

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Hebrews 7:25 (KJV) Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
 

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Though the old man’s ways beset, yet only for a time Till the saint sees it clear, to lay them all behind The skies now cloud-cleared, and as oft as thou would
No troubles or disappointments, but walking as thou should Now standing through assails, encouraged with all might Ever seeing Jesus, in heaven with all sight
This the lot of saints, while below in joyful role Persisting by the Father, life’s ever blessed goal Hebrews 12:1, 2 John 14:1, 27 Rom 14:4; Phl 3:20 Phl 2:13; 4:4

NC

“Have you ever thought of the Father dealing with you not as to what you are in yourself, but as to where He has positioned you in His Son? Have you ever thought that it is the affections of the Father’s heart which flow down to us where we are, seeing us in the Son, not in our poor wretched selves? What we were in the old man is not the thing to scan, but what we are, and where we are in the Son (Ro 8:9; Eph 2:6—NC);

“The lack in souls is, that while they know that their sins are forgiven, they do not know their new place (which weakens the walk—NC). What place have you? Is it earth or heaven (though saved, there is a certain amount of time needed for one to learn to walk spiritually instead of naturally - Gal 5:25; Phl 3:20—NC)?

“Most do not go beyond His resurrection (they don’t see themselves presently and eternally in heaven where He now is—NC); they do not extend to His ascension. They do not know the Lord Jesus in glory (only in His salvific work—NC). They are occupied with Him in relation to their own side (as presently on earth without realizing our present and eternal position in heaven—NC).

“‘Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth’ (Col3:2). For this I need to keep my heart more fixed upon the place where the Lord Jesus is. Nothing will draw my heart there like dwelling on the delight the Father has that I should be there (as certain as we are here now—NC),

“Our growth (ceaseless until we leave here—NC)

“The grace that saves from death and judgment, with present forgiveness of sins, is much clouded with uncertainty; so that the fullness of grace in seating us in the Lord Jesus in heaven is rarely heard of, much less known and believed in as a present reality. No wonder therefore, that the ground of an earthly people is accepted (walking worldly more than godly—NC), and Jewish things initiated (still walking in the “shadow” and not the “image” - Heb 10:1; Col 2:17—NC); as if what was, should still be in experience and practice, rather than what is, since Christ has come and is gone back to heaven. Eternal redemption, eternal life, present seated position in Christ before the Father, in the abiding rest and peace of a complete salvation, are nevertheless for today (one can have this and not realize it, thus not walk in the encouragement of it—NC). Happy they who receive in their simplicity these blessed realities, as beyond all question.” —G Gardner (1869-1935)

“Our Father delights in having us with Himself. Love yearns to satisfy itself about me. It is not only that I can go in, but a much greater thing—my Father, in all His majesty and glory, can come out! All is equipoised. Not only have I entree, but I am shaped to the grandeur of the scene, conformed to the glory of God. Not admitted like a stranger, but changed into the same image; not to equality but similarity; transformed into moral correspondence.”

Hello netchaplain;

I noticed some of the messages ends with -NC. Are these you who is quoting?

There I Am spoke to me very early this morning.

“Have you ever thought of the Father dealing with you not as to what you are in yourself, but as to where He has positioned you in His Son? Have you ever thought that it is the affections of the Father’s heart which flow down to us where we are, seeing us in the Son, not in our poor wretched selves? What we were in the old man is not the thing to scan, but what we are, and where we are in the Son (Ro 8:9; Eph 2:6—NC);

In 2021 I have done alot more pondering in my relationship with Jesus and my conclusion is I choose God and submit to the position He has chosen me in Christ. Therefore, my confidence is high with no doubt I will be with our Father in Heaven for all eternity in His time.

I cannot dwell on my flaws and imperfections. I grew tired of His joy in me being a strain. My spiritual conscious to get down on my knees each and every morning to repent is my weapon. I am forgiven, redeemed and restored each day.

There is a verse in the Bible that became one of my anthems these last several months. In John 12:27-28, 27 “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? But for this purpose I have come to this hour. 28 Father, glorify your name.” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.”

“The lack in souls is, that while they know that their sins are forgiven, they do not know their new place (which weakens the walk—NC). What place have you? Is it earth or heaven (though saved, there is a certain amount of time needed for one to learn to walk spiritually instead of naturally - Gal 5:25; Phl 3:20—NC)?


So in my pondering there are new directions I will soon be facing, that may be unfamiliar to me. It's here where I ask our Father to reveal His glory while strengthening my daily walk.

Thank
you, Bob, for sharing, again, as you always do.

God bless
you and your family.
 
Hello netchaplain;

I noticed some of the messages ends with -NC. Are these you who is quoting?
Hi Brother Bob and thanks always for your replies and comments! Yes, if I post with my name, or if I do not assign a name, it's my personal material.

In 2021 I have done alot more pondering in my relationship with Jesus and my conclusion is I choose God and submit to the position He has chosen me in Christ. Therefore, my confidence is high with no doubt I will be with our Father in Heaven for all eternity in His time.
And our desire to always be in submission to God comes from Him "working" this in us (Phl 2:13). Once reborn this will never discontinue to be the situation in the midst of all the naturality of our sin nature (old man), which now is as all things, used for our learning to remember to realize as we continue to see discouragement we can already know that eventually encouragement will be our position in all maters (again, it's all now just continued learning).

Regardless of where the believer finds self, it should be followed up remembering that faith and salvation are permanent, which is the point in all of Scripture, to realize our unbreakable union and fellowship with God; and until this is shown to us by the Spirit in His Word (as we continue to seek Him for the truth of this), we will be as the saint which James mentions--"like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed" (Jas 1:6). Such a condition in one reborn will often be because of "wavering" (Jam 1:6) about our security, which results in wondering instead of "confidence" (as you've mentioned), and missing out on many encouragements in our walk (v 7). The only eggs that break are the ones we do not put in the Lord's basket!

Remember, that in all which believers go through, it's used for good (Ro 8:28), and we soon find Him using it to "exalt" or encourage us once again (v 9). One cannot avoid being indecisiveness ("double-mindedness") concerning our walk if we are not sure (v 8) of our place in Christ. How a true believer walks does not effect one's security in Christ, but reflects position of maturity in Him.

God's blessings to your Family and ministry!
 
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