True Consecration

Though the word “sanctification” has been often described as some type of process or progression, Scripture always presents it in its completed sense at the time of rebirth (same for righteousness and justification). Its general meaning is the same for holy and “consecration” (OT term), of which all three are perpetual one-time occurrences included with salvation, e.g. redemption. The general thought of consecration in the OT was to be set apart for God by your doing. If consecration was instructed in the present dispensation it would only involve the work of the Spirit, for all things godly are by the Spirit—in the life of Christ.

1 John 4:17 (“as He is”) is in reference to the spiritual position of believers in the above attributes of the Lord Jesus; 1 John 3:2 (“we shall be like Him”) is in reference to the physical condition of believers at His “appearing” (2Tim 4:1; Rom 8:23), along with of course the final absence of that which impedes perfect fellowship with God—the sinful human nature! The Son’s present position before the Father is also our present position (soon our present condition). I say “present” because our eternal presence with Them is as certain as though we are in Their presence now.
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True Consecration

The Lord Jesus is in glory, and I am united to Him in spirit in all His beauty and perfection. I am also left in this world to be for Him down here. The same One who has gone up there is the same One who is down here in His saints (via the Spirit of course and is how all those reborn are in one another—NC). Up there I am in all His perfection in the Holiest, sustained there in all the sweet savor of the One whom the Father has taken up.

This we surely all know, otherwise we do not have the sense of our acceptance with the Father. So it says, “As He is,” not as He was. “As He is, so are we.” It does not say that we shall be as He is, but that we are at this moment. It is perfectly true that I shall be like Him in the glory, but that is not what this passage says. It is, “As He is, so are we, in this world”—not in heaven. The thought is that we cannot be placed in any higher position; and any place except that one up there would neither be commensurate with the work He has wrought, nor satisfy the heart of the Father for me.

My apprehension of the Lord Jesus in glory at the right hand of the Father determines my expression of Him down here. See how it comes out in Paul. He says that he sees the Lord Jesus; that he has to do with Him where He is: “With open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image (via the “new nature” which is “after the image of Him that created him – Col 3:10—NC) from glory to glory”; and so he adds, “bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.”

In Romans 12 we read, “I beseech you therefor brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.” People read this, and fancy that they are giving God something; but this is not the fact at all. In Romans 7 you find that you have a new life, a new nature, but you have also with it a very unpleasant guest, which ultimately causes you to cry out, “O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me?”

I long to subdue the flesh, and who does this for me? Why, Christ. “I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.” I say to Him: I was a sufferer from this noxious guest, but now I have got deliverance; and as it is You who have done it, I present my body to You, which is the least I can do. I give You nothing but an empty house, and You may make the most of it. “Present your bodies a living sacrifice, hoy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable (not legal) service; and be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed.” It is not reformation, it is “transformation.” I find my deliverance in Christ, and now I would present my body to my Deliverer; but that body is only an empty vessel, one which He must fill Himself, and His filling is consecration.

Hence consecration is not that I have given Him anything, for I have nothing to give. People talk about consecrating themselves, their talents, their property, and so on, and I know is a certain sense what they mean; but the fact really is, that I put aside everything in me which would hinder the expression of Christ flowing out of me, that the life of Jesus may be made manifest in my body.

For this Paul prays in Ephesians 3, “that Christ may dwell in your hearts”: the true force of the word is domicile. That He may so dwell there that we “may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height” of our Father’s own favor—the full scope of blessing; “and to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God.” Christ is that fullness, having Him thus dwell in the heart is real consecration.

- J B Stoney





Excerpt from MJS devotional for Feb. 13:

“The great secret of the Christian life is found in ceasing from self, in which the power of the Cross manifests itself in us.” – A M

http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 
Hello Netchaplain;

Our true consecration will be revealed on the day of judgment when we appear before Christ with accountability for our actions.

"as He is" above is parallel to "we are like Jesus" in this world.

Our daily walk with Jesus is a process of becoming more and more like our Lord and Savior, however, the process will not be complete until we see Christ. Part of the process we undertake is our commitment to the (charge) mission God has given each one of us, and choosing to remain faithful. This includes our spreading the Gospel to the unreached.

As we grow more and more like our Lord and Savior, (following His examples of LOVE, obedience to serve Him) we will encounter trials and challenges but not without His equipping us with "firstfruits". God does not send us out without being discipled. Discipled is being sent out to love, and love is being armed in our service to Him and others.

Our consecration is a lifelong dedication to Christ. Our consecration is what Jesus will take to the Father when He says, "but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven". - Matthew 7:21b ESV

Thank you for sharing your thread, Netchaplain. God bless you and your family.
 
Hello Netchaplain;

Our true consecration will be revealed on the day of judgment when we appear before Christ with accountability for our actions.

"as He is" above is parallel to "we are like Jesus" in this world.

Our daily walk with Jesus is a process of becoming more and more like our Lord and Savior, however, the process will not be complete until we see Christ. Part of the process we undertake is our commitment to the (charge) mission God has given each one of us, and choosing to remain faithful. This includes our spreading the Gospel to the unreached.

As we grow more and more like our Lord and Savior, (following His examples of LOVE, obedience to serve Him) we will encounter trials and challenges but not without His equipping us with "firstfruits". God does not send us out without being discipled. Discipled is being sent out to love, and love is being armed in our service to Him and others.

Our consecration is a lifelong dedication to Christ. Our consecration is what Jesus will take to the Father when He says, "but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven". - Matthew 7:21b ESV

Thank you for sharing your thread, Netchaplain. God bless you and your family.
Hi BIF, and appreciate your input! I agree with your comments, and I see consecration as used in the OT (never used in NT) as the equivalent to sanctification of the NT. My understanding is that in the prior dispensation with the Jews the believer was to receive favor with God via their attempting to walk according to the Law. God's favor in this dispensation comes not with the believer's walk but according to the Lord Jesus' work.

As those who are reborn continue to become increasingly mature in their "walk in the Spirit," God continues to be pleased. But our favor and acceptance is not the same as our pleasing Him, in that the prior is by Christ for salvation, and the latter by us is for growth in the faith--which pleases the Father.
 
Hello Netchaplain;

You're right. Consecration used in the Old Testament, for example, when we study the ceremony (Consecration of purification) before crossing the Jordan - Joshua 3:5 and before they carried the ark to Jerusalem, the priests symbolically cleansed themselves from sin and evil - 1 Chronicles 15:12

I'm referring to the "practical side" and would like to personally add, these ceremonies were two examples in the OT of true consecration meaning "to separate unto God" being the foundation for the New Testament's sanctification by the Holy Spirit, so vital for our Christian growth.

Thank you, Netchaplain. I enjoyed reading your thread.
 
Hello Netchaplain;

You're right. Consecration used in the Old Testament, for example, when we study the ceremony (Consecration of purification) before crossing the Jordan - Joshua 3:5 and before they carried the ark to Jerusalem, the priests symbolically cleansed themselves from sin and evil - 1 Chronicles 15:12

I'm referring to the "practical side" and would like to personally add, these ceremonies were two examples in the OT of true consecration meaning "to separate unto God" being the foundation for the New Testament's sanctification by the Holy Spirit, so vital for our Christian growth.

Thank you, Netchaplain. I enjoyed reading your thread.
I agree concerning the OT having some of its thoughts that introduce basic positions God desires to relate. But yet I do not see much of the OT portraying most of the NT positions.

Blessings!
 
I agree concerning the OT having some of its thoughts that introduce basic positions God desires to relate. But yet I do not see much of the OT portraying most of the NT positions.

Blessings!

Hi Netchaplain,

You just made your point (in blue) and thats all I was agreeing with.

I've heard of J.B. Stoney, an anointed minister and auther, but am also interested in discussing other subjects of scripture with you.

God bless you, Netchaplain.
 
May I add to this discussion about consecration from NT have a look at Hebrews chapter 7 esp verse 28, talking about the order of Melchisidek.

Go back to OT Genesis 14 to find out who Melchisidek was.
 
Hi Lan, and appreciate your input! I'm not sure the point you want to make, but concerning Heb 7:28 it presents the difference between the Law and the Lord Jesus, who came after the Law. The comparison here is that the Law was temporal because it could not make one right with God, but what Jesus brought is eternal and makes one perfect with God (unless you're meaning something else).

Blessings!
 
Example: "The law appointed high priests who were limited by human weakness. But after the law was given, God appointed his Son with an oath, and his Son has been made the perfect High Priest forever." NLT
 
Amen well my translation (kjv) says 'consecrated. ' So just thought would add that, am studying Hebrews and we read this chapter last week.


Jesus is a high priest in the order of mekchisidek who was also a priest of the most high that abraham offered tithes to him, and he was perfect or consecrated in that he was somehow begotten and wasnt weak or needed to offer sacrifice for his own sins like the levitical priesthood did.

Well that is my understanding of it. He was holy and set apart. From the very beginning.
 
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