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I love bacon, but I'm up for a challenge.
I can't comment on vegan but I live with my parents who are of the egg and dairy produce eating variety of vegetarian. I usually share their diet.

The exception to that if if they have an egg meal (I was sick after eating a boiled egg when about 5 and have not been able to handle anything recognisably eggy since - a bit of a shame as at times we've had our own free range eggs - but that's how it is). On these ocassions, I might just opt to have bacon....

Overall, I don't really miss meat. I think I'd have a harder time cutting out cheese (where I love strong Cheddars, various blues, crumbly white Cheshire types, soft ones like brie, cottage cheese, cream cheese...) than meat.
 
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I ate entirely raw vegan for a few months back in 2010. It took consentration for the first 2 weeks. I would have kept going but eating raw vegan is expensive.

Anthony Bourdaine was right when he said " Veganism is a first world luxury." Give it a shot.
 
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Any vegans here? I'm thinking about trying it out. What's your experience with it?
Lot of people do the mistake of becoming vegan without taking a serious look at their diet. There are so many important nutrients you will be getting from meat. As long as you make adjustments to your diets, then you will be fine.

I am not vegan. I don't eat meat much. I only eat home made lamb. And eggs. Nothing else. Just my taste!

But what is your motivation to become vegan?
 

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I understand and to a certain extent applaud the moral convictions of those who decide to be partially or fully vegetarian.
I can understand their motivations, many food animals are raised in abominable conditions and are not treated humanely by any standard.
(largely thanks to the movement towards industrial farming and away from small private farms)

From the health standpoint, humans are omnivores, not vegetarians, and a diet that is completely devoid of animal protein will lead to some rather charming deficiency diseases such as Pellagra. There are 14 amino acids that humans have to consume to survive, and 3 are ONLY found in meat or other animal products.

I know several vegetarians who only have fish and eggs as their animal protein source, and that works fine for them.
There are quite a few very good fish dishes that would satisfy almost any taste.

Personally, I'm a cancer survivor and need a high protein diet, but I do stick mainly to chicken and fish.
Though I was a farmer in my youth and worked around cattle quite a bit. They must be the dumbest creatures on God's green Earth.
Eating them is practically doing them a favor.:p
 
I understand and to a certain extent applaud the moral convictions of those who decide to be partially or fully vegetarian.
I can understand their motivations, many food animals are raised in abominable conditions and are not treated humanely by any standard.
(largely thanks to the movement towards industrial farming and away from small private farms)

From the health standpoint, humans are omnivores, not vegetarians, and a diet that is completely devoid of animal protein will lead to some rather charming deficiency diseases such as Pellagra. There are 14 amino acids that humans have to consume to survive, and 3 are ONLY found in meat or other animal products.

I know several vegetarians who only have fish and eggs as their animal protein source, and that works fine for them.
There are quite a few very good fish dishes that would satisfy almost any taste.

Personally, I'm a cancer survivor and need a high protein diet, but I do stick mainly to chicken and fish.
Though I was a farmer in my youth and worked around cattle quite a bit. They must be the dumbest creatures on God's green Earth.
Eating them is practically doing them a favor.:p
Interesting stuff. What about quinoa? I hear its a complete protein. Do you it would be a good substitute for meat?
 

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Quinoa? It's still a plant, so missing 3 amino acids necessary for humans.
Sounds like a good substitute for grasses (wheat, corn) though (for those with gluten issues).
 

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Seems that things have changed a bit since I was in college:

In human nutrition[edit]
Further information: Protein in nutrition and Amino acid synthesis
When taken up into the human body from the diet, the 22 standard amino acids either are used to synthesize proteins and other biomolecules or are oxidized to urea and carbon dioxide as a source of energy.[49] The oxidation pathway starts with the removal of the amino group by a transaminase; the amino group is then fed into the urea cycle. The other product of transamidation is a keto acid that enters the citric acid cycle.[50] Glucogenic amino acids can also be converted into glucose, through gluconeogenesis.[51]
Pyrrolysine trait is restricted to several microbes, and only one organism has both Pyl and Sec. Of the 22 standard amino acids, 9 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food.[52] In addition, cysteine, taurine, tyrosine, and arginine are considered semiessential amino-acids in children (though taurine is not technically an amino acid), because the metabolic pathways that synthesize these amino acids are not fully developed.[53][54] The amounts required also depend on the age and health of the individual, so it is hard to make general statements about the dietary requirement for some amino acids.
Essential Nonessential
Histidine Alanine
Isoleucine Arginine*
Leucine Asparagine
Lysine Aspartic acid
Methionine Cysteine*
Phenylalanine Glutamic acid
Threonine Glutamine*
Tryptophan Glycine
Valine Ornithine*
Proline*
Selenocysteine*
Serine*
Tyrosine*
 
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God gave us the animals to eat in Genesis 9.

It's okay to eat them now, but when he makes things no there will be no death.
 
I told my son and he said "Why would you only want to eat food that food eats?" Jesus ate fish and the Lord supplied quail and commandedd the consumption of lamb...you figure it out! I think what they now call vegetarian (which eats some fish, chicken, maybe cheeses) is superior to veganism...vegainism unless approached scientifically lacks many necessary amino acids...

Having said that, we here in America consume far too much meat far too often (we love fat and salt almost as much as we do processed sugars)