Western world is losing its Christian values, says leading bishop

May 12, 2008
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:pray: let us pray that we do not personally fall into the apathy and apostacy

that this bishop sees in the church:pray:
 
Dec 3, 2007
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I like what he said about the decline of christianity/values beginning when parents stopped passing their faith on to their children.
This is so true, and I am so guilty. May we all come to our senses and get it right!
 
May 5, 2007
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i agree,in the uk and i guess usa,we are gathering fruit from previous generations.just hope the kids realise this.:)
 
Jan 15, 2008
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I like what he said about the decline of christianity/values beginning when parents stopped passing their faith on to their children.
This is so true, and I am so guilty. May we all come to our senses and get it right!
Yeah, Fluffy.
I think why a lot of parents don't do it anymore is because they're afraid their kids will rebel against their faith(s) and eventually start "hating" it and doing the things they don't want them to do.
So, instead of going through all the trouble they don't teach them anything about God and such.
It's just my personal assumption. :)
 
Jun 25, 2008
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Yeah, Fluffy.
I think why a lot of parents don't do it anymore is because they're afraid their kids will rebel against their faith(s) and eventually start "hating" it and doing the things they don't want them to do.
So, instead of going through all the trouble they don't teach them anything about God and such.
It's just my personal assumption. :)

The world has become such a "free thinking" world, Maybe its that the parents want them to see and figure out what they want.
 
Jun 25, 2008
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But then agian it goes both ways......You can see that some religions almost seem like its a brain washing that we are brought up a certain way. You can definatly claim this about Christianity. Sometimes people put to much pressure then we run into the problem of was a saved because of my decition or someone elses?
 
May 5, 2007
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God saves you on your efforts.you have your own walk,people can only condemn themselves,we all have free will.
 
Jan 15, 2008
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But then agian it goes both ways......You can see that some religions almost seem like its a brain washing that we are brought up a certain way. You can definatly claim this about Christianity. Sometimes people put to much pressure then we run into the problem of was a saved because of my decition or someone elses?
Soccerman, can you clarify a little? I think I lost you here.:eek:
 
Jun 25, 2008
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Soccerman, can you clarify a little? I think I lost you here.:eek:

What im trying to say is, parents of all religions want there children to be that religion BECAUSE of the after life aspect of it.

I personaly believe that every person was made (by God) to yearn to know whats after this life, or maybe its the holy spirit, who am i to say?

But anyway, i think that chirstians sometimes need to instead of pressure there kids into accepting chirst (then its not from there heart aka they dont get saved) they need to preach, yes. But also they need to leave it up to the child and God for that desition to be made, not force it.

I can deffinatly see that a chirstian parent doesnt want to have there kid sent to hell, but it has to be a personal decition by the kid and christ wether they are to be saved or not.....

Does this make more sense?
 
Jan 15, 2008
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Yes, Soccerman it does. Thank you!

I agree. The decision is between you and God. We are all given free will and if the child doesn't want to choose God then it's his/her decision...maybe one day they will come back to Him, you never know.

:)

What im trying to say is, parents of all religions want there children to be that religion BECAUSE of the after life aspect of it.

I personaly believe that every person was made (by God) to yearn to know whats after this life, or maybe its the holy spirit, who am i to say?

But anyway, i think that chirstians sometimes need to instead of pressure there kids into accepting chirst (then its not from there heart aka they dont get saved) they need to preach, yes. But also they need to leave it up to the child and God for that desition to be made, not force it.

I can deffinatly see that a chirstian parent doesnt want to have there kid sent to hell, but it has to be a personal decition by the kid and christ wether they are to be saved or not.....

Does this make more sense?