I have no idea what a spirtual body is, or a holy spirit or any spirit come to that. Same as ghosts, angels and gods, all part of a vivid imagination if you ask me.
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Do you believe in energy or sound waves?
Also what is your icon?
It's me, just a little bit of me though.
What is the black wire looking thing and the plastic looking white thing?
It's my glasses. The photo came out that way round and I couldn't be bothered to rotate it.
I'd rather not go down the path of proving that spirits exist because sound waves exist but you say we can't see the waves - hence spirits exist.
Sound and energy and ghosts are not up for comparison in my book.
What you mean is that you do not have an answer, because if you did you would give one. If you can't give a definitive answer why don't you at least say that you are unsure?
There is no such thing as your book. The book is the same for everyone. Either it is truth or untruth.
How could I possibly have known about God, when I wasn't taught. Are you saying that I am lying. I am not. Are you saying as an infant in the womb my imagination made up God?
I don't have an answer because you will ask me to compare something that is well understood and quantifiable (sound) with something that has no evidence whatsoever (a spirit). You can't expect me to enter into discussion about something that has no real basis for debate surely?
When I say 'my book' I mean just my opinion.
I think that you believe that god spoke to you in the womb. However, I don't see how an unborn baby that has no real cognitive thinking can know that god 'spoke' to it.
What you mean is that you don't know. Because whether you can see or not does not make it truth or not.
How do you not know that all sensory things that you experience are not just imaginations of yours? Can you prove that those of us speaking to you are really here? Maybe we are all figments of your imagination? How do you prove it? What makes the senses more real than the spiritual? Even if all of us agree on evidence from our senses there is actually no way to prove that what we are experiencing is real. How can you prove your proof? In fact this could be never ending. Proving proof. The earth is flat, then it is round.
However there will be a time when everyone knows the truth.
Indeed, maybe god is a figment of your imagination?
Senses are about as real as we can hope for currently. They are more real than the spiritual or supernatural because these things can only be appreciated by blind faith and not evidence.
Let's first talk about senses. Do you believe in colors?
God is a Spirit tubby, its a whole other realm... We are in fact spiritual beings in physical bodies. Its really a time issue that divides these two very different realms. You would really enjoy the deep mysteries of God, but it takes a courage to enter into these things that the mind cannot grasp.
'Believe in colours' is not how I would describe it. I perceive things as having a colour because of how my eyes and brain interpret the reflection of those lightwaves from that object.
Other people will have a slightly different perecption of a certain 'colour' than I do. Other animal species see things much differently and see lightwaves that are invisible to me but the actual lightwaves absorbed or reflected by the object are the same.
I can see you are going to have fun with this.
How can you describe something as being from another realm when you don't actually know what that realm is?
I've no doubt that if I had faith in god as you do that I would enjoy these mysteries but I require evidence before acceptance.
If god is something that "the mind cannot grasp" how do you understand it?
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