Any here aware of KJVO views?

BibleLover said:
Of course! In my personal study, I use a number of English translations plus the Luther and 2 other German translations. For my devotions and for reading along in the pew at church I use the NKJV. Everyone else, too, is free to choose their own translation for everything, except preaching from the pulpit or teaching a Sunday School class.
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Your KJVO church totally different from normal ones, as those churches has it that all members must agree to just use the Kjv, as it alone was and is the English translation God inspired for us to use
 
I found this interesting. According to biblestudytools.com ... based on two factors... formal equivalence and dynamic equivalence.... ( and yes I have taken this from an article on this site. ).

The top 5 most accurate translations are.

1. Christian Standard Bible
2, English Standard Version
3. King James and New King James
4. New American Standard Bible
5. New International Version

I was really shocked to see that KJV was not number 1.

Please don't shoot the messenger. HAHA... I don't have an opinion on bibles.

I don't know how someone verifies information on the internet.
 
In Awe of Him said:
I found this interesting. According to biblestudytools.com ... based on two factors... formal equivalence and dynamic equivalence.... ( and yes I have taken this from an article on this site. ).

The top 5 most accurate translations are.

1. Christian Standard Bible
2, English Standard Version
3. King James and New King James
4. New American Standard Bible
5. New International Version

I was really shocked to see that KJV was not number 1.

Please don't shoot the messenger. HAHA... I don't have an opinion on bibles.

I don't know how someone verifies information on the internet.
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The most literal and formal translations are Nasb and NKJV, then the Esv/Csb, and finally Niv
 
YeshuaFan said:
Your KJVO church totally different from normal ones, as those churches has it that all members must agree to just use the Kjv, as it alone was and is the English translation God inspired for us to use
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The KJVO churches you describe as normal KJVO are churches that are generally RULED OVER by tyranical, abusive, obtuse, and deliberately ignorant pastors who spiritally abuse their parishioners by insisting that they adopt the same twisted views of Scripture which the pastor holds. Those are churches in bondage.
 
In Awe of Him said:
I found this interesting. According to biblestudytools.com ... based on two factors... formal equivalence and dynamic equivalence.... ( and yes I have taken this from an article on this site. ).

The top 5 most accurate translations are.

1. Christian Standard Bible
2, English Standard Version
3. King James and New King James
4. New American Standard Bible
5. New International Version

I was really shocked to see that KJV was not number 1.

Please don't shoot the messenger. HAHA... I don't have an opinion on bibles.

I don't know how someone verifies information on the internet.
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YeshuaFan said:
The most literal and formal translations are Nasb and NKJV, then the Esv/Csb, and finally Niv
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Dear In Awe of Him;

You asked a great question based on your personal research here.

The Formal Equivalence is the attempt to keep as close to the form of the Hebrew and Greek. The words and grammar, for example, put into understandable English. As YeshuaFan shared, examples are the NASB, NKJV, KJV, ESV, RSV (I personally alternate between ESV and RSV alot.)

The Functional, or Dynamic Equivalence is the attempt to keep the meaning of the Hebrew of Greek but putting their words and idioms into what would be the normal way of saying the same thing in English. Again, as YeshuaFan shared, examples are the NIV as well as the NLT, GNB, NAB, etc...

God bless you, sister.

Bob
 
In Awe of Him said:
I found this interesting. According to biblestudytools.com ... based on two factors... formal equivalence and dynamic equivalence.... ( and yes I have taken this from an article on this site. ).

The top 5 most are.

1. Christian Standard Bible
2, English Standard Version
3. King James and New King James
4. New American Standard Bible
5. New International Version

I was really shocked to see that KJV was not number 1.

Please don't shoot the messenger. HAHA... I don't have an opinion on bibles.

I don't know how someone verifies information on the internet.
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Could you please provide a link for that? I would like to know their methodology for determining which translations are the most accurate.
 
I work with a man who is strictly KJV only. He wears a Tshirt that says as much. He recently posted a pic on Facebook that states basically "you can keep all the other silly translations to yourself".
I doubt if one was to educate him on the subject he would change his mind.
 
Origen ... I see.... you wanted the exact page... Sorry.... I am not smart with things like copying articles.

www.biblestudytools.com

What Are the Most Accurate Bible Translations?

What Are the 5 Most Accurate Bible Translations? There are other versions that are worthy of attention, but these five are universally considered great for several reasons. First, they are all translated by respected and diverse groups of theologians. Second, they all stay fairly close to one...
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In Awe of Him said:
Origen ... I see.... you wanted the exact page... Sorry.... I am not smart with things like copying articles.

www.biblestudytools.com

What Are the Most Accurate Bible Translations?

What Are the 5 Most Accurate Bible Translations? There are other versions that are worthy of attention, but these five are universally considered great for several reasons. First, they are all translated by respected and diverse groups of theologians. Second, they all stay fairly close to one...
www.biblestudytools.com www.biblestudytools.com
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Thanks!
 
BibleLover said:
No, it's because the underlying Greek text being used for modern translations NT (including the ESV) is not considered dependable. Age doesn't guarantee authenticity. The Scriptures were being tampered with as early as the 1st century (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) and Irenaus in the 2nd century complained about heretics altering Scripture.

The Sinaiticus text was discovered in a scriptorium garbage can. The monks didn't discard it for no reason, and the Vaticanus text had been handled by Origen who had some odd theological views, and it's "discovery" in the Vatican library just coincidentally coincided with the the Reformation and its claim of sola scriptura. Those are the key texts upon which the modern Greek texts are based despite the fact that there are thousands of other Greek texts which have proven dependable throughout history. The provenance of Sinaiticus is missing, and the provenance of Vaticanus includes the work of a person whose aberrant theological views were even criticized by his own contemporaries.
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What is your opinion of the ESV?
 
Major said:
What is your opinion of the ESV?
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It's a good formal equivalence translation faithful to its textual base (the modern UBS Greek text), but in some places it departs slightly from formal equivalence. There is, however, a better formal equivalence translation from the same text base, the NASB. Another better formal equivalence translation, although from a different text base (the Received Text) is the NKJV, which is my preferred Bible.

That being said, I think the ESV is a very good choice for anyone looking for an accurate, understandable modern translation.
 
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BibleLover said:
It's a good formal equivalence translation faithful to its textual base (the modern UBS Greek text), but in some places it departs slightly from formal equivalence. There is, however, a better formal equivalence translation from the same text base, the NASB. Another better formal equivalence translation, although from a different text base (the Received Text) is the NKJV, which is my preferred Bible.

That being said, I think the ESV is a very good choice for anyone looking for an accurate, understandable modern translation.
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Think that is why even its publisher stated that the Esv is an "essentially" word for word translation, still very good, superior to the 2011 Niv remake. For serious bible studies, 2 best ones are indeed Nas and Nkjv, and prefer the 1977/1995 Bas, as newest edition at times "to free" as if tried to go the route of the new Niv
 
BibleLover said:
It's a good formal equivalence translation faithful to its textual base (the modern UBS Greek text), but in some places it departs slightly from formal equivalence. There is, however, a better formal equivalence translation from the same text base, the NASB. Another better formal equivalence translation, although from a different text base (the Received Text) is the NKJV, which is my preferred Bible.

That being said, I think the ESV is a very good choice for anyone looking for an accurate, understandable modern translation.
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I had used the KJV all of my life until the ESV came out. I have found it to be a very literal and formative translation.
 
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