Acts 2:38: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” ?
Would these groups be holding to "another Gospel?"
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The word for in that verse means because of, not in order to. That's an understandable error that occurs when someone wishes to use that verse as a prooftext for baptismal regeneration. However, the concept of baptismal regeneration is not supported by the bulk of Scripture.
If watre baptism actually saves us, then very odd Paul would state he thanked God he baptized few, but preached the Cross
Some helpful notes here
In the context of Acts 2:38, A.T. Robinson interpreted the Greek preposition "eis" (translated as "for" or "unto") as indicating identification or apposition, suggesting the gift of the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit Himself. He argued that the phrase "in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins" means the gift is the Holy Spirit, identified with the forgiveness of sins
- A.T. Robinson's View:
Robinson, along with some others, proposed that "eis" in this context signifies identification, meaning the gift of the Holy Spirit is essentially the same as the forgiveness of sins, according to www.biblestudylessons.net.
that is how i have seen w/o outside commentary .. you cant make water baptism =to justification which is the very act of forgiveness .. using water baptism for salvation takes the blood attornment out. without the blood of Jesus there is no remission of sins
What saves us is being washed in His blood, not in the water
Greek text is stating that we are water baptized into the source and cause of forgiveness of sins, Lord Jesus, not that saved in the water itself
If baptism brings salvation by cleansing sin, can someone illustrate which sins Jesus committed from which he was cleansed at his baptism?
Or how the thief next to Jesus got into Heaven?
Actually.......the problem with these groups is not that they take away from the directions of the Word of God.
Instead, they "Add To" what the Scriptures say. When you tell the lie enough, sooner or later you will believe the lie is the truth.
I know 2 Thess. 2:11-12 speaks of a different time and a different people but it still says the same thing........
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
Funny fact.
I do not now do it now, but I had a Pastor in Uganda as well who we supported and had brought him to Florida for a revival several years ago. His church and school was only about 3 or 4 miles from the hijacked plane back in the 80's that Israel rescued.
His name was Pastor Kisembe.
The SBC took controle of the Seminaries under the SBC logo back in the late 80's from liberals.
The Indendent Baptist churches as well as Oneness Pentecostal are known to insist that the KJV is the only authorized Bible by God.
That is pretty much true.
It always depends on the Pastor of the local church.
ALL Southern Baptist Churches belong to a localized Association. Usually it is those SBC churches located in the county they are in but at times, those boundaries expand depending on the size of the county and the number of churches. My point is that those churches have a Director of Missions who is always available to the congregations and if or when heretical preaching crops up, they have the ability to counsel with and advise the Pastor on any Biblical error or heresy that is perceived.
If or when that Pastor teaches heresy and refuses to follow the direction he is advised, he can and many have been brought before a review board for correction or removal.
Independant Baptist and Churches that have NO affiliation to a higher authority do not have that available to them and they are at the mercy of a majority of voting church members.
I have personally been involved in such an action on two occasions.
And they make sure that a "real Christian and church" would never use one of those modern Version"satanic inspired" bibles
That is correct!
I have actually been in an Indenendant Baptist Church for a revival where the Preacher said............
"A man can not be saved with out hearing the Word of God, and that word can ONLY BE FOUND IN A KING JAMES BIBLE"!
many do elevate the Kjv to be almost an idol, same way Muslims elevate their Koran to being eternal word of God
And that was my point.
Now the facts are different. The ESV and RSV are more literal and go back to the original languages.
The KJV uses the Textus Receptus instead of going to the original languages.
I am not taking sides, only observation of facts.
For the KJV, (My Opinion only) Many readers consider this a very difficult translation to read, as it uses archaic language. Then there are those who prefer this, because it does sound very poetic and it was what their parents used so it must be the best.
thats what i said