What issues would cause you to no longer be a member of a local church. to seek out another church?

Major said:
Well, I am very glad that you did. Have you taken the immunization shots. My wife and I have taken one every year and we have not had a problem.
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In Awe of Him said:
I had two shots and they made me FUNNIER.... as if that is even possible... but YEP.... HAHAHAHAHA
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Good morning, Major and In Awe of Him;

It just seems like yesterday (6 years ago) the world was dealing with COVID. Very serious stuff and too many deaths.
I still have my card stamped from the jabs I received (Maderna shot) at the hospital.

Still, I was bedridden for one or two weeks with COVID. I remember feeling weird and slept a lot. My doctor prescribed Paxlovid, and for me I started feeling better.

It was during that time in a phone call I was asked by our neighborhood Bible study teacher if I received the shot. I told him, not yet. He forbid me from attending our neighborhood Bible study on Thursday mornings. (I remember posting this at CFS.)

The subject of this thread made me think of this particular Bible study. After getting sick I did stop attending for a long time.

Bob
 
I have been burned before as an 'early adopter' of technology. mRNA vaccines are still quite 'early'. The fact they were universally fast tracked and dissent squelched did not help.

While in the Army, I had every vaccine imaginable. I am not anti vaccine. I'm anti agenda.
 
bobinfaith said:
Good morning, Major and In Awe of Him;

It just seems like yesterday (6 years ago) the world was dealing with COVID. Very serious stuff and too many deaths.
I still have my card stamped from the jabs I received (Maderna shot) at the hospital.

Still, I was bedridden for one or two weeks with COVID. I remember feeling weird and slept a lot. My doctor prescribed Paxlovid, and for me I started feeling better.

It was during that time in a phone call I was asked by our neighborhood Bible study teacher if I received the shot. I told him, not yet. He forbid me from attending our neighborhood Bible study on Thursday mornings. (I remember posting this at CFS.)

The subject of this thread made me think of this particular Bible study. After getting sick I did stop attending for a long time.

Bob
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Help me out............

You said---"
" still have my card stamped from the jabs I received (Maderna shot) at the hospital.

Still, I was bedridden for one or two weeks with COVID. I remember feeling weird and slept a lot. My doctor prescribed Paxlovid, and for me I started feeling better.

It was during that time in a phone call I was asked by our neighborhood Bible study teacher if I received the shot. I told him, not yet. "

Are you saying that you got the Maderno shot........then had Covid, then the teacher asked you if you had gotten the shot and you said, "not yet"!

I am confused.
 
bobinfaith said:
Good morning, Major and YeshuaFan;

Good stuff while enjoying my good morning coffee in lowly California. lol! I was also reading the latest in our Golden State how more and more are unhappy and continue to move out of our state. Much, much prayer is needed. 🙏

My wife and I were tempted in 2022 to move to St. Louis after performing a wedding there 3 years ago. If anyone is familiar with St. Louis we visited the famous Gateway Arch and an old Church called Basilica of Saint Louis, King of France. We realize all cities have their problems but there was a peace especially where we stayed at a b&b (paid by the wedding party.)

I agree with Major's post and good explanation in 1 Corinthians 14:31-34. It would take another thread and more detailed teaching regarding woman of God in the Church, then and now.

But the "confrontational part" sadly still lives on between congregants (at times their ulterior motive) and their Pastor's (at times his defensive) explanation. I was the spectator of more than one incident and had to intervene between a couple of others. This is never good. 😞

Pastors who are truly called into ministry realize it's not a service that will get them rich. I am aware of Churches that have deep pockets, additional income from preschool, classes, etc...and can afford a higher salary but for most, Churches govern on a budget of God's money (as our Church did) allocating money for ministry, missionaries and more.

When YeshuaFan mentioned the 4 hour sermon made me chuckle. Did the congregation actually stay for the whole message?!? Egads!

I observed the Churches I visited overseas had longer sermons up to 2 hours. Here in America I also observe most sermons are 20, 30 and 40 minutes because of the attention span.

God bless you all.

Bob



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We all would have made lousy Puritans, as my understanding is that they normally had Church sessions meeting for hours on end, including very long sermons
 
Major said:
Another thing to consider for those "pious" people who say that real believers should be able to sit and listen for 2 or 3 hours........
there is a thing called OLD AGE that catches up with everyone.
Our blood sugar begins to drop and we need to eat something.
Our bladders fill and we have to get rid of something.
Our legs begin to stiffen and circulation decreases.

A preacher that preaches for an hour or two does not care for his people and is more concerned with finishing a sermon he plagiarized than he is about the health of his people.

AND........look at any church. I would esitmate that the Elderly make up 60 to 70 % of the membership.
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While in AOG, they had a tradition of "praying into the next day". and sometimes would have sunday evening servcies past midnight
 
Major said:
I can tell you and all reading this that the attention span of any person is about 20 to 30 minutes. After that, the mind wanders and luch begins to call louder and louder.
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Think that the thing about all cults is that they tend to have very long so called sermons, as a way to lull the minds of their members into spiritual sleeping
 
Major said:
Help me out............

You said---"
" still have my card stamped from the jabs I received (Maderna shot) at the hospital.

Still, I was bedridden for one or two weeks with COVID. I remember feeling weird and slept a lot. My doctor prescribed Paxlovid, and for me I started feeling better.

It was during that time in a phone call I was asked by our neighborhood Bible study teacher if I received the shot. I told him, not yet. "

Are you saying that you got the Maderno shot........then had Covid, then the teacher asked you if you had gotten the shot and you said, "not yet"!

I am confused.
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Good morning, Major;

Sorry for the confusion. In this order;

During September 2021 I was 64 and had not received shots for COVID. That was when the teacher asked me to stop attending until I got my shot.

The teacher was only doing his best and trying to be careful. The members were in their late 60s, 70s, a couple in their 80s and one is 91 years old. I was 64 and the youngest who attended.

After that I started receiving my shots. The first shot was Pfizer and the rest were Maderna. The hospital would stamp my card. It was in between the shots that I caught the virus but it was mild and after taking Paxlovid I felt better.

Regarding the topic of this thread, I believe during and after COVID many Church memberships reduced, many were no longer members (stopped going altogether or sought another Church.)

Our Church is Southern Baptist, is somewhat quiet in our worship, not a whole lot of "hoopin'" in my sermons, or noise from the congregation. We lost some members who expressed to me they were hungry for a more frenzy type of worship so they left seeking a Church that suit them.

God bless you, brother.

Bob
 
bobinfaith said:
Good morning, Major;

Sorry for the confusion. In this order;

During September 2021 I was 64 and had not received shots for COVID. That was when the teacher asked me to stop attending until I got my shot.

The teacher was only doing his best and trying to be careful. The members were in their late 60s, 70s, a couple in their 80s and one is 91 years old. I was 64 and the youngest who attended.

After that I started receiving my shots. The first shot was Pfizer and the rest were Maderna. The hospital would stamp my card. It was in between the shots that I caught the virus but it was mild and after taking Paxlovid I felt better.

Regarding the topic of this thread, I believe during and after COVID many Church memberships reduced, many were no longer members (stopped going altogether or sought another Church.)

Our Church is Southern Baptist, is somewhat quiet in our worship, not a whole lot of "hoopin'" in my sermons, or noise from the congregation. We lost some members who expressed to me they were hungry for a more frenzy type of worship so they left seeking a Church that suit them.

God bless you, brother.

Bob
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That was what I thought. Thanks.

For us, At 1st, in Sept. of 21 we actually did not hold services in person. We took off for a month, separated the pews and seating to 6 ft. apart, stopped passing offering trays, stopped Communion and stopped the fellowship time of greeting. We also stopped the choir.

Interestiing that we did a month of online sermons and the giving to the church was some of the highetst we ever had.

As a church we had NO infections.
 
Major said:
That was what I thought. Thanks.

For us, At 1st, in Sept. of 21 we actually did not hold services in person. We took off for a month, separated the pews and seating to 6 ft. apart, stopped passing offering trays, stopped Communion and stopped the fellowship time of greeting. We also stopped the choir.

Interestiing that we did a month of online sermons and the giving to the church was some of the highetst we ever had.

As a church we had NO infections.
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We ended up having a servcie for those who desired masks and keeping pew apart, while the other service was no different before Covid had it, and only thing Pastors asked was to pick the one felt most comfortable with, and do NOT bad mouth any who chose other service
 
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