Death and Dying

Hello Mabel Lean;

You ask a great question. This is where our study as disciples equips and enables us what to say at that moment.

For the dying believer I believe they have grown in faith, knowledge and application. But in their terminal illness it’s a moment when being there in Love by their side, preparation, encouragement and readiness soon to be with our God for all eternity.

For the unbeliever who is shuddering at the thought of death is just as important to be there in Love by their side, offer them the hope that they can be forgiven and be given the opportunity to know Jesus as their Lord and Savior for all eternity.

This is a discussion that cannot be said in one post so I’m hoping this will open other’s thoughts.

Mabel Lean, what do you share with those who are terminally ill and prepare them for physical death?

God bless you.

Bob
 
I pray with then. Remind them how God is there with them, loves them, and how faithful Jesus is.
Talk of hope and confessing all sins and knowing they are forgiven through the death of Jesus. How they will rest in peace.
 
When I was growing up, we had a table in the vestibule where we laid out our church's missionary books. They were written by our denomination's missionaries, and we were encouraged to read them. (After reading one, we would sign our name on the inside cover.) I was amazed to read how open these people in other lands were to hearing the gospel. (Usually, there was only one person who would object, and it was the tribe's witch doctor.) But, I marveled at how open most of the people were, and it wasn't until I got older that I figured out why folks here at home are so closed: They're already predisposed to reject the gospel. They've already heard the message and decided to reject it. I mention this because I think it would be ineffective to just share John 3:16 with someone facing death because they've probably already associated it with "religious nut jobs."

I've witnessed to my neighbor a couple of times and he always makes a joke. However, he's 84 years old now, and he very well might be on a death bed soon. If and when that time comes, I am going to pray very solemnly, and ask God to use me. What ever I end of saying, it will be tailored for him exclusively.

When Jesus said to store up treasures in Heaven, do you suppose he meant bring souls to Him? Imagine getting to Heaven and discovering that because of you, there are a number of people who made it there, too.
 
My beloveds family and friends are in end stage illnesses as am I.

We fervently pray for one another for healing lifting each other up to I AM The Father in prayer in the Name of The Son Jesus Christ IESOUS CHRISTOS I AM for 100 % Healing and Angels of Protection. We ask for pain alleviation.

Just wondered the thoughts of those of you mature Followers what you say and do for those facing the last phases of life on this side of The Veil.

Serving I AM with you,

~ Mabe
 
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My beloveds family and friends are in end stage illnesses as am myself.

We fervently pray for one another for healing lifting each other up to I AM The Father in prayer in the Name of The Son Jesus Christ IESOUS CHRISTOS I AM for 100 % Healing and Angels of Protection. We ask for pain alleviation.

Just wondered the thoughts of those of you mature Followers what you say and do for those facing the last phases of life on this side of The Veil.

Serving I AM with you,

~ Mabe

The Crown of Life
 
This thread should be invaluable as so many post COVID betrayal are now end stage.
What can we the followers of I AM do to ease their transition?
We must encircle one another in fellowship now.
 
What do you say to people who terminally ill to prepare them for physical death?
A few years ago I had an illness that took me right up to death's door, to the point that I was literally expecting each breath to be my last. At that time I found comfort is simply accepting God's will. "Thy will be done", I kept silently praying.

Ultimately that wasn't my last day, praise God. The lesson I would advise is to simply remind yourself and others that everything - your life and ultimately death - is in God's hands and to trust in Him.

I pray that those suffering terminal illness learn to accept with grace the gifts of the Lord and to trust in His will above all else. Know that I am praying for you.
 
Thank you learning to let go.

One of the cardiologists I know spoke of “surrender.” Still trying to get a * complete * handle on this.

He said when his mother was stage 4 cancer his father, her caregiver, became a better person in so doing. One feels guilty being a burden to the caregiver..

Ready indeed and looking forward to seeing I AM. There is a line in one of the hymns I play of those going each night “I Bow My Knees” -

… But I said, Timothy
"I want to see Jesus,
Cause He's the One who died for me."


It’s the how one passes that can disturb peace.

Will there be great pain or will one peacefully be taken in our sleep as GOD stops our heart?
 
Thank you learning to let go.

One of the cardiologists I know spoke of “surrender.” Still trying to get a * complete * handle on this.

He said when his mother was stage 4 cancer his father, her caregiver, became a better person in so doing. One feels guilty being a burden to the caregiver..

Ready indeed and looking forward to seeing I AM. There is a line in one of the hymns I play of those going each night “I Bow My Knees” -

… But I said, Timothy
"I want to see Jesus,
Cause He's the One who died for me."


It’s the how one passes that can disturb peace.

Will there be great pain or will one peacefully be taken in our sleep as GOD stops our heart?

Complete surrender according to GOD’s will when terminally ill
 
The above article is TOO PRECIOUS and PROFOUND to remain as simply an URL to press.

Completely surrendering to God’s will when facing a terminal illness involves trusting in His sovereignty and accepting the natural course of life and death, even in the midst of suffering. This surrender is not passive resignation but an active, faith-filled submission to God’s plan, recognizing that life and death are in His hands. The Bible affirms that God is an ever-present help in trouble and that He will never leave His children, providing strength and peace through the Holy Spirit during trials. For Christians, this act of surrender is seen as a profound expression of faith, reflecting the example of Jesus in Gethsemane, who prayed, “Not my will, but Yours be done”.

Surrendering to God’s will does not require enduring unnecessary suffering or rejecting medical care. It is consistent with making wise, thoughtful decisions about end-of-life care, such as choosing to forgo extraordinary life-sustaining treatments when death is imminent, as long as the intention is not to hasten death but to avoid prolonging the dying process unnecessarily. This approach is distinct from euthanasia or assisted dying, which are considered biblically unacceptable as they involve human intervention to end life, contrary to the belief that only God has authority over life and death.

Many believers find deep peace and purpose in surrendering to God’s will, even when the prognosis is grim. This surrender allows individuals to focus on spiritual growth, reconciliation with loved ones, and sharing their faith, knowing that their suffering can serve a greater purpose in God’s redemptive plan. As one person shared, surrendering to God’s will during terminal illness brought a profound sense of peace, love, and trust, even amid grief. The promise of eternal life and the assurance that “to die is gain” (Philippians 1:21) provide hope and comfort, transforming the fear of death into a peaceful transition into God’s presence.

Ultimately, surrendering to God’s will is not about controlling outcomes but about trusting that His plan is good, even when it is not fully understood. It is an act of humility and faith, acknowledging that God is sovereign over all things, including life and death, and that His love and grace are sufficient in every trial.
 
The above article is TOO PRECIOUS and PROFOUND to remain as simply an URL to press.

Completely surrendering to God’s will when facing a terminal illness involves trusting in His sovereignty and accepting the natural course of life and death, even in the midst of suffering. This surrender is not passive resignation but an active, faith-filled submission to God’s plan, recognizing that life and death are in His hands. The Bible affirms that God is an ever-present help in trouble and that He will never leave His children, providing strength and peace through the Holy Spirit during trials. For Christians, this act of surrender is seen as a profound expression of faith, reflecting the example of Jesus in Gethsemane, who prayed, “Not my will, but Yours be done”.

Surrendering to God’s will does not require enduring unnecessary suffering or rejecting medical care. It is consistent with making wise, thoughtful decisions about end-of-life care, such as choosing to forgo extraordinary life-sustaining treatments when death is imminent, as long as the intention is not to hasten death but to avoid prolonging the dying process unnecessarily. This approach is distinct from euthanasia or assisted dying, which are considered biblically unacceptable as they involve human intervention to end life, contrary to the belief that only God has authority over life and death.

Many believers find deep peace and purpose in surrendering to God’s will, even when the prognosis is grim. This surrender allows individuals to focus on spiritual growth, reconciliation with loved ones, and sharing their faith, knowing that their suffering can serve a greater purpose in God’s redemptive plan. As one person shared, surrendering to God’s will during terminal illness brought a profound sense of peace, love, and trust, even amid grief. The promise of eternal life and the assurance that “to die is gain” (Philippians 1:21) provide hope and comfort, transforming the fear of death into a peaceful transition into God’s presence.

Ultimately, surrendering to God’s will is not about controlling outcomes but about trusting that His plan is good, even when it is not fully understood. It is an act of humility and faith, acknowledging that God is sovereign over all things, including life and death, and that His love and grace are sufficient in every trial.

I agree this is a precious topic. It is rarely addressed in its complexness yet so vital to us all.

In going through the links here is an excellent article. Close to me are those in stage 4 cancer.

How Can I Serve The Dying by John Piper
 
Mabel are
My beloveds family and friends are in end stage illnesses as am I.
Are your family and friends saved? Perhaps prayer in this direction would do wonders.
It's hard for me to relate to those terminally sick or ill as I haven't spent a night in the hospital and am on no medications/prescriptions. (but you never know). It's a wonder we live as long as we do in this dilapidated tent. (only by God's grace).
Here is a passage guaranteed to raise the dead...
John 11:25-26 KJV
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
 
Mabel are

Are your family and friends saved? Perhaps prayer in this direction would do wonders.
It's hard for me to relate to those terminally sick or ill as I haven't spent a night in the hospital and am on no medications/prescriptions. (but you never know). It's a wonder we live as long as we do in this dilapidated tent. (only by God's grace).
Here is a passage guaranteed to raise the dead...
John 11:25-26 KJV
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Yes we have been born from above.

We are in the midst of FULL SURRENDER that only people terminally ill experience.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=s...summary=1&conversation=7d617403a6ac205383ef8d
 

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Yes we have been born from above.

We are in the midst of FULL SURRENDER that only people terminally ill experience.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=s...summary=1&conversation=7d617403a6ac205383ef8d
I don't believe the word surrender is in scripture although some see romans 12:1 and Rom 6:13 as referring to it, but in that case it is closer to 'present yourself' (a military term); otherwise, I see substitution in scripture, namely, our sins for His Righteousness righteousness and our disobedience has been swallowed up by grace, through Jesus Christ.

Where in Scripture do you see 'surrender'?
 
Mabel are

Are your family and friends saved? Perhaps prayer in this direction would do wonders.
It's hard for me to relate to those terminally sick or ill as I haven't spent a night in the hospital and am on no medications/prescriptions. (but you never know). It's a wonder we live as long as we do in this dilapidated tent. (only by God's grace).
Here is a passage guaranteed to raise the dead...
John 11:25-26 KJV
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in
The above article is TOO PRECIOUS and PROFOUND to remain as simply an URL to press.

Completely surrendering to God’s will when facing a terminal illness involves trusting in His sovereignty and accepting the natural course of life and death, even in the midst of suffering. This surrender is not passive resignation but an active, faith-filled submission to God’s plan, recognizing that life and death are in His hands. The Bible affirms that God is an ever-present help in trouble and that He will never leave His children, providing strength and peace through the Holy Spirit during trials. For Christians, this act of surrender is seen as a profound expression of faith, reflecting the example of Jesus in Gethsemane, who prayed, “Not my will, but Yours be done”.

Surrendering to God’s will does not require enduring unnecessary suffering or rejecting medical care. It is consistent with making wise, thoughtful decisions about end-of-life care, such as choosing to forgo extraordinary life-sustaining treatments when death is imminent, as long as the intention is not to hasten death but to avoid prolonging the dying process unnecessarily. This approach is distinct from euthanasia or assisted dying, which are considered biblically unacceptable as they involve human intervention to end life, contrary to the belief that only God has authority over life and death.

Many believers find deep peace and purpose in surrendering to God’s will, even when the prognosis is grim. This surrender allows individuals to focus on spiritual growth, reconciliation with loved ones, and sharing their faith, knowing that their suffering can serve a greater purpose in God’s redemptive plan. As one person shared, surrendering to God’s will during terminal illness brought a profound sense of peace, love, and trust, even amid grief. The promise of eternal life and the assurance that “to die is gain” (Philippians 1:21) provide hope and comfort, transforming the fear of death into a peaceful transition into God’s presence.

Ultimately, surrendering to God’s will is not about controlling outcomes but about trusting that His plan is good, even when it is not fully understood. It is an act of humility and faith, acknowledging that God is sovereign over all things, including life and death, and that His love and grace are sufficient in every trial.
The above article is TOO PRECIOUS and PROFOUND to remain as simply an URL to press.

Completely surrendering to God’s will when facing a terminal illness involves trusting in His sovereignty and accepting the natural course of life and death, even in the midst of suffering. This surrender is not passive resignation but an active, faith-filled submission to God’s plan, recognizing that life and death are in His hands. The Bible affirms that God is an ever-present help in trouble and that He will never leave His children, providing strength and peace through the Holy Spirit during trials. For Christians, this act of surrender is seen as a profound expression of faith, reflecting the example of Jesus in Gethsemane, who prayed, “Not my will, but Yours be done”.

Surrendering to God’s will does not require enduring unnecessary suffering or rejecting medical care. It is consistent with making wise, thoughtful decisions about end-of-life care, such as choosing to forgo extraordinary life-sustaining treatments when death is imminent, as long as the intention is not to hasten death but to avoid prolonging the dying process unnecessarily. This approach is distinct from euthanasia or assisted dying, which are considered biblically unacceptable as they involve human intervention to end life, contrary to the belief that only God has authority over life and death.

Many believers find deep peace and purpose in surrendering to God’s will, even when the prognosis is grim. This surrender allows individuals to focus on spiritual growth, reconciliation with loved ones, and sharing their faith, knowing that their suffering can serve a greater purpose in God’s redemptive plan. As one person shared, surrendering to God’s will during terminal illness brought a profound sense of peace, love, and trust, even amid grief. The promise of eternal life and the assurance that “to die is gain” (Philippians 1:21) provide hope and comfort, transforming the fear of death into a peaceful transition into God’s presence.

Ultimately, surrendering to God’s will is not about controlling outcomes but about trusting that His plan is good, even when it is not fully understood. It is an act of humility and faith, acknowledging that God is sovereign over all things, including life and death, and that His love and grace are sufficient in every trial.

me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Excellent explanation! Thank you.

The hardest part of FULL SURRENDER is the pain that accompanies most deaths.

My mother died of multiple myeloma where ever major bone in her body snapped and most of her ribs and vertebrae. I was the only one in ICU that could stand to be there as she mianex in agony in a coma. I asked GOD The Father in The Holy Name of Jesus Christ - IESOUS CHRISTOS I AM to please send Holy Angels and bring her home.

We pray nightly for 100 % healings or to be taken in our sleep peacefully.

In the end we all indeed physically die when GOD stops our hearts no matter the causal underlying wasting.

What I find remarkable is Eastern Orthodox Churches like in Egypt from the day children can understand is they are taught that to follow Jesus they should expect to suffer. How many of us have been schooled in this in the West?

Recall when the Muslim Brotherhood rounded up Christians, dressed them in orange, had them kneel, then chopped off their heads?
 
Surrender Scriptures in The Bible

In Scripture, surrender is defined as the act of yielding oneself fully to the authority and will of God, involving the relinquishment of personal control, pride, and self-reliance in favor of trust, obedience, and dependence on divine sovereignty. This concept is foundational to the Christian faith, exemplified by Jesus Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane, where He prayed, "Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done" (Luke 22:42). The call to discipleship further emphasizes surrender, as Jesus instructs, "If anyone would come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me" (Luke 9:23). Believers are urged to present their bodies as a "living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God" (Romans 12:1), which is described as their "spiritual act of worship" , and to live by faith in Christ, who lives in them (Galatians 2:20). This surrender is not passive but an active, daily commitment to align one’s life with God’s purposes, resulting in transformation, peace, and spiritual renewal.

20 Bible Verses on Surrendering to God​

If you’re feeling a tug on your heart to surrender your will and life to God, here are 20 verses that will encourage you, and remind you how good the surrendered life to God is.

  1. Matthew 16:24 (ESV)
    Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.


  2. Proverbs 3:5-6 (ESV)
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.


  3. Isaiah 45:9 (ESV)
    “Woe to him who strives with him who formed him, a pot among earthen pots! Does the clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ or ‘Your work has no handles’?


  4. Galatians 2:20 (ESV)
    I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.


  5. Matthew 26:39 (ESV)
    And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.

  6. John 5:30 (ESV)
    “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.

  7. Psalm 37:5 (ESV)
    Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him, and he will act.

  8. Romans 6:13 (ESV)
    Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.

  9. Romans 12:1 (ESV)
    I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

  10. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (ESV)
    Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

  11. Philippians 2:5-8 (ESV)
    Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus. Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

  12. Matthew 7:21 (ESV)
    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

  13. Luke 14:33 (ESV)
    So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.

  14. John 4:34 (ESV)
    Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work.

  15. John 3:30 (ESV)
    He must increase, but I must decrease.

  16. Isaiah 64:8 (ESV)
    But now, O Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand.

  17. Galatians 4:24 (ESV)
    And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

  18. Matthew 11:28 (ESV)
    Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

  19. Psalms 55:22 (ESV)
    Cast your burden on the Lord, and he will sustain you; he will never permit the righteous to be moved.

  20. Philippians 3:7-8 (ESV)
    But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. 8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake, I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ.

Have thine own way, Lord​

Just as children learn to surrender their will to their parents, we must also learn to surrender our wills to our heavenly Father. We no longer fuss about what we want, when we want it, and how we want it. Instead, we say, like Puritan Richard Baxter, “Lord, what thou wilt, where thou wilt, and when thou wilt.”

Help us, Lord, to say, “Have thine own way, Lord, have thine own way. Thou art the potter, we are the clay.”

20 Verses About Surrendering to GOD
 
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