Any thoughts about things such as Ufos, paranormal items etc?

[YeshuaFan]

I have NO idea before 1940, but I do not remember any conversations on OFO'S or Aliens until the middle 50's.

There was some conversation in medieval times but as it was stated............
"In medieval times the rare individual who considered the possibility of extraterrestrial life was a heretic and spreading such ideas would have put his life in danger."

My point is the UFO stuff only came about after TV news and papers began to spread what was not there and never proven.

Same with "Bigfoot". It/he/she/them was only coined in a 1958 Humboldt Times article concerning 17-inch-long footprints found in Bluff Creek, California. Then, in 1967, documentarians Bob Gimlin and Roger Patterson released a short film that seemed to feature the beast itself.
Source........"https://allthatsinteresting.com/bigfoot-facts".

Now, today, everyone you talk to has seen it/them. The problem is exactly like the UFO's..........NO proven evidence!

Everyone has a camera but NO ONE has taken a verifiable picture. Every picture presented has been a proven HOAX!
NO DNA ever found.
NO hair ever found.
NO forensic evidence ever found.
NO dead bodies ever found.

The mind plays tricks and believes what it wants to believe even in the face of reality!

There were reports of flying vehicles in 1896/1897, and many state that 1917 Fatima was NOT Mary but a Ufo appearing
There have beem thousands of reported Ufo sightings, and big change in last half of 20th century were "alien Abductions" Just think satan is orepping the lost to fall for a big lie when "alien Jesus" gets to become a new norm

 

[YeshuaFan]

Or what Stepen King wote.

I do not buy for a moment any 'ancient astronauts", but do think mankind has had involvement with evil supernatural forces from early on in our recorded history

 

[drequeen]

The US Navy declassified a ufo video a while back that was taken in 2004 off the S Cal coast. Has that been debunked? I don't believe in 'em, but intriguing nonetheless.

 

[Major]

I do not buy for a moment any 'ancient astronauts", but do think mankind has had involvement with evil supernatural forces from early on in our recorded history

Now......what about "before" our recorded history????

Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12–14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the kings of Babylon and Tyre, we believe they also reference the spiritual power behind those kings, namely, Satan. These passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not say when the fall occurred.

Jesus, the eternal Son of God, witnessed Satan’s fall, and He mentions it in Luke 10:18: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”

We know that the angels were created before the earth as seen in Job 38:4–7. We also know that Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden as seen in Genesis 3. So then, from the Scriptures we know that Satan’s fall occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before He created the Earth and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
Whether Satan’s fall occurred hours, days, or years before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden, Scripture does not say.

I said all of that to ask you this, in your opinion........Did Satan's fall have any effect on the universe at the time it happened?

Now, before responding......give this some time and think it through!

 

[LearningToLetGo]

Did Satan's fall have any effect on the universe at the time it happened?

I suppose that would depend on what the universe is and the angels' relationship to it...

 

[YeshuaFan]

Now......what about "before" our recorded history????

Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12–14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the kings of Babylon and Tyre, we believe they also reference the spiritual power behind those kings, namely, Satan. These passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not say when the fall occurred.

Jesus, the eternal Son of God, witnessed Satan’s fall, and He mentions it in Luke 10:18: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”

We know that the angels were created before the earth as seen in Job 38:4–7. We also know that Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden as seen in Genesis 3. So then, from the Scriptures we know that Satan’s fall occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before He created the Earth and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
Whether Satan’s fall occurred hours, days, or years before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden, Scripture does not say.

I said all of that to ask you this, in your opinion........Did Satan's fall have any effect on the universe at the time it happened?

Now, before responding......give this some time and think it through!

Good question, as while we know scriptures teach to us Fall of Adam brought the curse of God into the earth, would the Fall of Satan brought the curse into the very universe then?

 

[YeshuaFan]

Now......what about "before" our recorded history????

Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12–14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the kings of Babylon and Tyre, we believe they also reference the spiritual power behind those kings, namely, Satan. These passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not say when the fall occurred.

Jesus, the eternal Son of God, witnessed Satan’s fall, and He mentions it in Luke 10:18: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”

We know that the angels were created before the earth as seen in Job 38:4–7. We also know that Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden as seen in Genesis 3. So then, from the Scriptures we know that Satan’s fall occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before He created the Earth and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
Whether Satan’s fall occurred hours, days, or years before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden, Scripture does not say.

I said all of that to ask you this, in your opinion........Did Satan's fall have any effect on the universe at the time it happened?

Now, before responding......give this some time and think it through!

Well, look at the chapter in genesis regarding women and what I take to have been fallen angels, and today would be seen as relations with "space aliens"

 

[Major]

Well, look at the chapter in genesis regarding women and what I take to have been fallen angels, and today would be seen as relations with "space aliens"

Please be more specific. WHAT women in Genesis......Eve, Sara, Rebecca????

Now, where is Genesis it recorded that there are women that were fallen angels in Genesis ????

Where....chapter and verse did women have relations with "space aliens".

 

[Major]

Good question, as while we know scriptures teach to us Fall of Adam brought the curse of God into the earth, would the Fall of Satan brought the curse into the very universe then?

That is what I am asking YOU?

Did the Fall of Satan bring ramifications into the very universe then?

 

[Major]

I suppose that would depend on what the universe is and the angels' relationship to it...

Well, We know that the angels were created before the earth was created as seen in Job 38:4–7.
We also know that Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden as seen in Genesis 3.

For him to have already been in Eden, waiting on Eve to walk up, he had to have already fallen from heaven.

So, did his fall cause chaos in the universe?

 

[Major]

The US Navy declassified a ufo video a while back that was taken in 2004 off the S Cal coast. Has that been debunked? I don't believe in 'em, but intriguing nonetheless.

A new detailed analysis of the modern poster child for UFO footage makes the case that the object in the video is not anything other than glare on the Navy jet’s gimbal camera system.

Source........https://petapixel.com/2022/03/14/famous-navy-ufo-video-was-actually-camera-glare-evidence-suggests/

 

[Major]

I do not buy for a moment any 'ancient astronauts", but do think mankind has had involvement with evil supernatural forces from early on in our recorded history

Explain.........Biblically. Chapter and verse.

 

[Major]

There were reports of flying vehicles in 1896/1897, and many state that 1917 Fatima was NOT Mary but a Ufo appearing
There have beem thousands of reported Ufo sightings, and big change in last half of 20th century were "alien Abductions" Just think satan is orepping the lost to fall for a big lie when "alien Jesus" gets to become a new norm

Those are called........."Conspiracy Theories".
Usually comes from a bunch of people with too much to drink at a saloon and can not explain seeing a meteor falling.

As for the Fatma vision.......how would anyone know what Mary looked like.??? Just like pictures of Jesus???? There are NO pictures of either!

After a lightning strike, a young girl "suggested" that the imprint left on a tree looked like Mary. Again....How would anyone know????
It may have resembled a female person, and as a young Catholic girl, the 1st thing that came to her mind was MARY.
People have imagined Mary on the face of a building and on a piece of toast!

The mind can and will play tricks when that is what WE WANT TO SEE!

 

[drequeen]

A new detailed analysis of the modern poster child for UFO footage makes the case that the object in the video is not anything other than glare on the Navy jet’s gimbal camera system.

Source........https://petapixel.com/2022/03/14/famous-navy-ufo-video-was-actually-camera-glare-evidence-suggests/

"But a new detailed analysis by self-described debunker, skeptic, and UFO investigator Mick West focuses on four aspects of the footage to demonstrate that what is likely being seen is actually a camera artifact".

You also have to consider the source. He (very possibly) had an agenda before investigating.

 

[bobinfaith]

Those are called........."Conspiracy Theories". Usually comes from a bunch of people with too much to drink at a saloon and can not explain seeing a meteor falling. As for the Fatma vision.......how would anyone know what Mary looked like.??? Just like pictures of Jesus???? There are NO pictures of either! After a lightning strike, a young girl "suggested" that the imprint left on a tree looked like Mary. Again....How would anyone know???? It may have resembled a female person, and as a young Catholic girl, the 1st thing that came to her mind was MARY. People have imagined Mary on the face of a building and on a piece of toast! The mind can and will play tricks when that is what WE WANT TO SEE!

"But a new detailed analysis by self-described debunker, skeptic, and UFO investigator Mick West focuses on four aspects of the footage to demonstrate that what is likely being seen is actually a camera artifact". You also have to consider the source. He (very possibly) had an agenda before investigating.

Good morning,

Look...Is it possible God made beings outside our universe and earth? With God all things are possible and He would make it plain, otherwise, I personally don't know.

I don't buy theories from authors using Genesis 6 or Ezekiel, for example, to suggest extraterrestrials. Instead, these authors need to come to their senses and learn what God is saying in His Word. Do these authors encourage Love and Salvation? No.

Also, these documentaries about UFO sightings and some figure in the forest are never actually revealed as an alien up close, or a spaceship. They keep the gullible entertained, guessing and then end the show. Why do I need to entertain what my mind may imagine, instead of what God says and is intended for?

I understand YeshuaFan is stimulating conversation in this thread but lets also make room for the sensical side of being a follower of Christ and student of the Word.

God bless you all.

Bob

 

[Major]

Good morning,

Look...Is it possible God made beings outside our universe and earth? With God all things are possible and He would make it plain, otherwise, I personally don't know.

I don't buy theories from authors using Genesis 6 or Ezekiel, for example, to suggest extraterrestrials. Instead, these authors need to come to their senses and learn what God is saying in His Word. Do these authors encourage Love and Salvation? No.

Also, these documentaries about UFO sightings and some figure in the forest are never actually revealed as an alien up close, or a spaceship. They keep the gullible entertained, guessing and then end the show. Why do I need to entertain what my mind may imagine, instead of what God says and is intended for?

I understand YeshuaFan is stimulating conversation in this thread but lets also make room for the sensical side of being a follower of Christ and student of the Word.

God bless you all.

Bob

Exactly what I am saying.

I am a believer in good old common sense!

As I said, everyone has a cell phone and every cell phone has a camera. 30 years ago that was not the case but now, 3 year olds and 100 year olds walk around with a camera.

It makes NO sense that with several BILLION cameras walking around the world, NO ONE has ever taken a clear, verifiable picture of a UFO or a Bigfoot.

Now is it possible that God created life somewhere else in the universe?????

Now, until about 400 years ago, Earth was the center of the universe and the sun rotated around the Earth! That was a known fact!
Until just 5 years ago, we knew that life was only possible in a very small parameter. Then we SAW life at the mouth of a volcano tube 2000 feet below the surface of the ocean.
Many people believe that there is probably life out there on other planets simply by the overwhelming number of planets and stars but even if that’s true, that doesn’t discount the fact that God is the Creator of that life, no matter where it’s found.

So what if there’s life on other planets? The existence of life on other planets doesn’t mean that the Bible isn’t true, or that the creation story is just a myth. God is the Author of life, no matter where it is in the universe (Acts 3:15)!

I do not know but I have a feeling that we are indeed alone and special. As an only child, I have always liked being alone!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Exactly what I am saying.

I am a believer in good old common sense!

As I said, everyone has a cell phone and every cell phone has a camera. 30 years ago that was not the case but now, 3 year olds and 100 year olds walk around with a camera.

It makes NO sense that with several BILLION cameras walking around the world, NO ONE has ever taken a clear, verifiable picture of a UFO or a Bigfoot.

Now is it possible that God created life somewhere else in the universe?????

Now, until about 400 years ago, Earth was the center of the universe and the sun rotated around the Earth! That was a known fact!
Until just 5 years ago, we knew that life was only possible in a very small parameter. Then we SAW life at the mouth of a volcano tube 2000 feet below the surface of the ocean.
Many people believe that there is probably life out there on other planets simply by the overwhelming number of planets and stars but even if that’s true, that doesn’t discount the fact that God is the Creator of that life, no matter where it’s found.

So what if there’s life on other planets? The existence of life on other planets doesn’t mean that the Bible isn’t true, or that the creation story is just a myth. God is the Author of life, no matter where it is in the universe (Acts 3:15)!

I do not know but I have a feeling that we are indeed alone and special. As an only child, I have always liked being alone!

I do not hold that Ufos nor aliens are from outer space, but do hold that they are demonic in origins, and what used to be known as fairies in older times are ow called space aliens

 

[YeshuaFan]

Good morning,

Look...Is it possible God made beings outside our universe and earth? With God all things are possible and He would make it plain, otherwise, I personally don't know.

I don't buy theories from authors using Genesis 6 or Ezekiel, for example, to suggest extraterrestrials. Instead, these authors need to come to their senses and learn what God is saying in His Word. Do these authors encourage Love and Salvation? No.

Also, these documentaries about UFO sightings and some figure in the forest are never actually revealed as an alien up close, or a spaceship. They keep the gullible entertained, guessing and then end the show. Why do I need to entertain what my mind may imagine, instead of what God says and is intended for?

I understand YeshuaFan is stimulating conversation in this thread but lets also make room for the sensical side of being a follower of Christ and student of the Word.

God bless you all.

Bob

Think bigfoot and Nessie could be large primates and large eels/seals/fish, but do think space aliens fully demonic

 

[drequeen]

Good morning,

Look...Is it possible God made beings outside our universe and earth? With God all things are possible and He would make it plain, otherwise, I personally don't know.

I don't buy theories from authors using Genesis 6 or Ezekiel, for example, to suggest extraterrestrials. Instead, these authors need to come to their senses and learn what God is saying in His Word. Do these authors encourage Love and Salvation? No.

Also, these documentaries about UFO sightings and some figure in the forest are never actually revealed as an alien up close, or a spaceship. They keep the gullible entertained, guessing and then end the show. Why do I need to entertain what my mind may imagine, instead of what God says and is intended for?

I understand YeshuaFan is stimulating conversation in this thread but lets also make room for the sensical side of being a follower of Christ and student of the Word.

God bless you all.

Bob

It is stimulating conversation, to an extent. Whether aliens, UFO's, E.T.'s, ALF, etc. exist is irrelevant to me. It only got interesting to me when the footage from those Navy planes was released a few years back.

 

[Major]

I do not hold that Ufos nor aliens are from outer space, but do hold that they are demonic in origins, and what used to be known as fairies in older times are ow called space aliens

I hold that UFOS and Aliens are "liberal democrats" in disguise.!