Are we moving away and off real Gospel to the Social One now?

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As even among we Baptists seems to be a big push now to get woked up and Critical race theology, are we now moving into redefining the Gospel message then?

Actually brother.....the Critical Race nonsense is nothing more than "Marxism" called by a more acceptable name.
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That sounds like a squirrely church especially if there are a lot of side issues. :D

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I am a reformed baptist, and think that Baptist agree on core issues mentioned!
From my understanding, the doctrines of limited atonement (Particular Atonement) and total depravity would be a definite core concern, (not a side issue) between the two Baptist groups.
Don't they cling as tight to the 1689 as the Scriptures in practice (maybe not in word)?
At least they won't share pulpits.
 
From my understanding, the doctrines of limited atonement (Particular Atonement) and total depravity would be a definite core concern, (not a side issue) between the two Baptist groups.
Don't they cling as tight to the 1689 as the Scriptures in practice (maybe not in word)?
At least they won't share pulpits.
to some degree you are correct free will verses reformed big difference on belief on how one is saved . still same Jesus who saves us
 
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to some degree you are correct free will verses reformed big difference on belief on how one is saved . still same Jesus who saves us
For them, it's two different Jesus's.
One Jesus is actively involved in choosing who goes to heaven and who gets passed over.
The other Jesus is offering Himself to man's free will.
 
For them, it's two different Jesus's.
One Jesus is actively involved in choosing who goes to heaven and who gets passed over.
The other Jesus is offering Himself to man's free will.
i posted many times in carm forum with is Calvinist forum .never seen it presented like that i will say trying study reformed will leave you cross eyed . most of them will not say babies go to heaven . also faith must be given to you first. been a long time since i was there.. at one time i had a email exchange with a man who was Calvinist. it got rather intense but never out of hand . no name calling
 
From my understanding, the doctrines of limited atonement (Particular Atonement) and total depravity would be a definite core concern, (not a side issue) between the two Baptist groups.
Don't they cling as tight to the 1689 as the Scriptures in practice (maybe not in word)?
At least they won't share pulpits.
I am a Calvinist, who uses the 1689 Confession, but again, the core distinctives of baptists are the views we all agree on, inspiration of Bible, only infallible source, loacal church autonomy, believers baptism, separation of church and state etc!
 
to some degree you are correct free will verses reformed big difference on belief on how one is saved . still same Jesus who saves us
we agree that the death of the Lord Jesus was atonement for our sins, just differ on the intended extent of who is to get saved, and if all given faith or just the elect!
 
For them, it's two different Jesus's.
One Jesus is actively involved in choosing who goes to heaven and who gets passed over.
The other Jesus is offering Himself to man's free will.
I am a calvinist, and say some differences even among "free will" Baptists, as some still see us as fallen in the fall of Adam, while others seem to see full free will remaining!
 
i posted many times in carm forum with is Calvinist forum .never seen it presented like that i will say trying study reformed will leave you cross eyed . most of them will not say babies go to heaven . also faith must be given to you first. been a long time since i was there.. at one time i had a email exchange with a man who was Calvinist. it got rather intense but never out of hand . no name calling
I am reformed. and agree with Spurgeon that no babies are in hell!
 

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I am a Calvinist, who uses the 1689 Confession, but again, the core distinctives of baptists are the views we all agree on, inspiration of Bible, only infallible source, loacal church autonomy, believers baptism, separation of church and state etc!
In that case would your Church share pulpits with a Free Will Baptist Church?
 
so does the others belong to a different denom . its when Christians feel they have the superior doctrine and yes i have met those .

"MY" post was "MY" opinion then as well as it is now. It has nothing to do whatsoever with superior. THAT was "your" word and was not what I said.

Problems come up when words are placed into the mouth of others.

IMHO no one is superior to anyone else but I have personal opinions just as you have shared with all of us my friend.
 
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I am reformed. and agree with Spurgeon that no babies are in hell!

I agree. Babies do not go to hell. The idea of infants going to hell is the extreme misapplication of predestination.

The Bible is plain in its teaching that babies do not inherit the sins of their parents. One commonly misapplied scripture used to teach that infants inherit sin is Psalm 51:5-6.

The Bible nowhere teaches that babies go to hell if they die in infancy.
 
i posted many times in carm forum with is Calvinist forum .never seen it presented like that i will say trying study reformed will leave you cross eyed . most of them will not say babies go to heaven . also faith must be given to you first. been a long time since i was there.. at one time i had a email exchange with a man who was Calvinist. it got rather intense but never out of hand . no name calling

I do believe that the problem with infants and hell rests on the shoulders of brother Calvin because there is nothing n the Scriptures that suggest such an end.

Many well meaning and spiritual people have taught that sin is “passed” from one generation to the next. It is believed by many religious people that children “inherit” the sins of their parents.

Yet, the Bible pointedly and explicitly teaches that such is not the case.

In Ezekiel 18:20, the Bible says..........
“The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son.”

Also, in Exodus 32, Moses pleaded with God to forgive the sins of the Israelites when he said.......
“Yet now, if You will forgive their sin—but if not, I pray, blot me out of Your book which You have written. And the Lord said to Moses, ‘Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book’ ”

Exodus 32:32-33 is plain in its teaching that babies do not inherit the sins of their parents.

And another fact is the well known and documented habit of the skeptic’s arsenal is to seize statements from religious people that make God look like a cruel despot waiting to cast any and everyone into a torturous lake of eternal fire.

Although many skeptics have tried to portray God as an evil tyrant Who condemns innocent children to eternal destruction, their arguments are without merit or any semblance of biblical credence. In the words of Jesus Christ, “Let the little children come to me.”
 

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Agreed. The words, "The Bible says".........has been replaced with.........."I feel like....."!

or : "the original greek says".....and there is no original greek text, , and the person saying this can't even read Koine Greek.

Its an odd thing that on forums, you have bible correctors, and in Pulpits, you have bible correctors, who can't read Koine Greek, correcting bibles with the "original greek" that does not exist....... while trying to pretend they are a Greek text Authority.
This is not honest, and its certainly not Scriptural.
 
or : "the original greek says".....and there is no original greek text, , and the person saying this can't even read Koine Greek.

Its an odd thing that on forums, you have bible correctors, and in Pulpits, you have bible correctors, who can't read Koine Greek, correcting bibles with the "original greek" that does not exist....... while trying to pretend they are a Greek text Authority.
This is not honest, and its certainly not Scriptural.

Thank you for the reply and you are so very correct.

Not only is it not honest it is the highest form of deception in order to appear more scholarly!
 

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• Baptists allow women to be ordained as Pastors.

• Southern Baptists only allow men to be ordained.
From "wiki"....so, add that grain of salt.
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The very diverse organizations which employ the term Baptist in self-designation:

 
Many well meaning and spiritual people have taught that sin is “passed” from one generation to the next.
the sin nature is there but Children are innocent especially Babies are are so innocent , i helped do a infant funeral the crowd was a wild rough bunch. i told them the little Boy was in better a place and far more innocent than any of us in the room its been a long time since i was in carm some of them are down right rude. they call a person a false teacher etc.. we may disagree on certain issues.. but i am not resorting to name calling.
 
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