bible somebody explain the important parts to me ( whole bible )

"If today you hear His voice, harden not your heart."

Psalm 95:8

Wow, Mr Cassian, I see that you are new. I am more or less new myself. I must be old enough to say welcome. I'm in a giddy mood because I went to a party last night, and I had soooo much fun. Considering that, how could I have a hard heart?

Hard heart? In two hours, I will be with my girlfriends at our weekly study group, where hard hearts groan as they grow like the great gadget grinding the girders into goops of going to be goo? My English teacher loves alliteration.

Sometimes we have boys at the group. After all, they are the reason that we have the group. At school we have as many boys as girls. Our motto, Every girl gets a date. Every student gets an A.

I know that I seem like I have a hard heart. For example, … (in the seventh grade I learned to introduce the fact of a paragraph with words like for example) So, for example God gave us (or maybe Adam and Eve stole) the gift of intellect. With that in mind … (you see, the opinions that explain the fact must be introduced with a transitory phrase) So, with that in mind, God must want us to use our intellect, and if I want to know about a rock or a tree, like for example how old is the rock, or for example how a cottonwood tree might suck mercury from the soil, or maybe even how eleven plus two is one, then I should look at the rock or the cottonwood tree or learn to how to deal with the Wahhabists who want to kill us. Oh my, that ended on a sour note.

Anyway, now I must go run and get gooy sweaty so I can shower enough not to be smelly as I take my aunt to work (she does not drive), and then meet the study group to speak of rocks, rotary math, and raging Rahhabists, subjects more generally known as science, math, and history.

So welcome, Mr Cassian, you have been, like cowabunga, like totally, the best girlfriend. :)
 

GBzone

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So Adam and Eve sinned, and for that reason we live in a world of chaos and suffering, like I said in the previous post. For Christians, sin is the problem, but ... (drum roll) ... salvation is the solution. That is the one central thing on which all Christians agree.

So in Genesis 3:15 God says for the first time that he will send a savior to deal with sin by offering us salvation. He has already created choice, so we can take it or leave it.

I know that in Genesis 3:15 like most of the other verses, the interpretation is not obvious form the text, but Catholics believe that the verse is about the Virgin Mary. If I remember right, Protestants think the verse is about Jesus. Either way, Jesus is coming.

In ONE aspect it is about Mary . In that ONE ("IT), MALE ("HE") child will be born of a woman .But not of Adams seed ."The seed of the woman"
But it is not THE main aspect .
For the woman does not have the seed ,It is the man .
Thus we are manKIND and not another kind .
For every seed will bring "forth fruit after its own KIND"
God wishing to show that this male child though born of a woman and thus fully man . Would not be of Adams seed .But of another .
We know from the teaching of Jesus that the "Seed is the Word "

It is for me a great sadness that the "so great a salvation" of God has been reduced to being but BORNagain .
If you took the word salvation then to eb BORNagain is simply the "S" of it .
It is the getting out of Egypt from the bondage of the devil (pharaoh) and the world (Egypt)
But for peace sake the church has got no further in its thinking .or understanding .
and has not only made the Milk of the word the primary subjects preached but has made it all but the meat .
Indeed it only took 40 DAYS to get from Egypt to the promised land but we have justified the 40 YEARS as the natural and norm of Christianity .

In Christ
gerald
 
Don't eat shellfish.
Leviticus 11:10
And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

1 Timothy 4:4 .....
"For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."
 
1 Timothy 4:4 .....
"For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

A human is a creature, but humans aren't sanctified (set apart) by the Word of God for food, so obviously no amount of thanksgiving prayer offered over a plate of Children McNuggets will make it a God-approved meal for us to receive.

Is there a creature that we can receive as food that is sanctified by both the Word of God and our thanksgiving prayer that is not to be refused by us? The Word of God has sanctified many in Leviticus 11 - the clean beasts - which classification goes all the way back to Noah's day (and obviously to the first sacrifices in the Garden of Eden). If you disagree, we can discuss it further over a plate of Vulture Casserole with a side of Buzzard Pot Pie and Maggot Salad (ughh, I've just lost my appetite LOL).
 
1Ti 4:3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
I think the operative phrase here is 'foods created to be received'....I think that would exclude humans....unless sharks can read scripture too.
 
A human is a creature, but humans aren't sanctified (set apart) by the Word of God for food, so obviously no amount of thanksgiving prayer offered over a plate of Children McNuggets will make it a God-approved meal for us to receive.

Is there a creature that we can receive as food that is sanctified by both the Word of God and our thanksgiving prayer that is not to be refused by us? The Word of God has sanctified many in Leviticus 11 - the clean beasts - which classification goes all the way back to Noah's day (and obviously to the first sacrifices in the Garden of Eden). If you disagree, we can discuss it further over a plate of Vulture Casserole with a side of Buzzard Pot Pie and Maggot Salad (ughh, I've just lost my appetite LOL).

See comment #26 by "calvin". I think that pretty much answers your concerns.
 
Major, you're a creature, right? Mmmmmmmmmajor LOL

Is that what YOU really think Paul had in mind....."Cannibalism"...........REALLY????

I honestly never ever gave that a thought and I do not think anyone else (YOU) has either. But if you read calvin's post in #26 you will have the proper context. I just didn't think it was needed at the time.
(Still don't).
 
See comment #26 by "calvin". I think that pretty much answers your concerns.
C'mon, Major, the concluding statement "for it is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer" is not a byword, it is that upon which Paul's entire spiritual proposition rests. Do you not believe Paul that the creatures we are to receive are only those which are sanctified by the Word of God and prayer?
 
Is that what YOU really think Paul had in mind....."Cannibalism"...........REALLY????

I honestly never ever gave that a thought and I do not think anyone else (YOU) has either. But if you read calvin's post in #26 you will have the proper context. I just didn't think it was needed at the time.
(Still don't).
It is not I nor Paul who suggest cannibalism. However, I believe those who use this verse to justify eating whatever crawls across our plate do so inadvertently by ignoring the context of the verse, which is that any creatures we eat must first be sanctified by the Bible and prayer.
 
1Ti 4:3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
I think the operative phrase here is 'foods created to be received'....I think that would exclude humans....unless sharks can read scripture too.
See my comment #30 to Major about what's truly "operative' about this verse.
BTW, did you know that there is a religious institution that forbids its priests to marry and commands that the members abstain from meat on Friday?

Catholic Canon Law: Canon 1251
"Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday."

Catholic Canon Law: Canon 277
"Clerics are obliged to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the kingdom of heaven and therefore are bound to celibacy which is a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can adhere more easily to Christ with an undivided heart and are able to dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and humanity."
 
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GBzone

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See my comment #30 to Major about what's truly "operative' about this verse.
BTW, did you know that there is a religious institution that forbids its priests to marry and commands that the members abstain from meat on Friday?

It is not what goes into a mans mouth that defiles a man . But what comes out of the mans mouth that defiles Him. Jesus .
The kingdom of God is not in meat and drink.

If you cannot eat pork by faith don't eat it it is a sin to you ." For that which is not of faith is sin."

In Christ
Gerald
 
It is not what goes into a mans mouth that defiles a man . But what comes out of the mans mouth that defiles Him. Jesus .
The kingdom of God is not in meat and drink.

If you cannot eat pork by faith don't eat it it is a sin to you ." For that which is not of faith is sin."

In Christ
Gerald
What a profound truth of Jesus, but please let us examine His words carefully. When He said "it is not that which enters a man's mouth that defiles", was the immediate context "food", or some "non-food defilement"?

We have to admit that the context has nothing to do with food items, but the Pharisaic belief of "righteousness by ritual" where "defilement" needed to be ceremoniously washed from their hands before each meal course - that was the point of contention. Jesus words were in condemnation of men who did not discern Jeremiah's words: "For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD." How can we be sure that this analysis is correct?

I'm afraid Isaiah 66:15-17 says in the clearest and highest degree of context that when the Lord Jesus comes back with fire, fury, and anger to judge the entire earth, those who found eating pork, mice, and other abominations will be "consumed together". Pork never has been, nor ever will be, fit fare for the Christian. :)
 
What a profound truth of Jesus, but please let us examine His words carefully. When He said "it is not that which enters a man's mouth that defiles", was the immediate context "food", or some "non-food defilement"?

We have to admit that the context has nothing to do with food items, but the Pharisaic belief of "righteousness by ritual" where "defilement" needed to be ceremoniously washed from their hands before each meal course - that was the point of contention. Jesus words were in condemnation of men who did not discern Jeremiah's words: "For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD." How can we be sure that this analysis is correct?

I'm afraid Isaiah 66:15-17 says in the clearest and highest degree of context that when the Lord Jesus comes back with fire, fury, and anger to judge the entire earth, those who found eating pork, mice, and other abominations will be "consumed together". Pork never has been, nor ever will be, fit fare for the Christian. :)

I like talking with you 777 but you do come up with oddest ideas of anyone I have known now for a long time.

You said.........
"What a profound truth of Jesus, but please let us examine His words carefully. When He said "it is not that which enters a man's mouth that defiles", was the immediate context "food", or some "non-food defilement"?"

Then in the very next sentence you equate Isaiah 66:15-17 with..............
"says in the clearest and highest degree of context that when the Lord Jesus comes back with fire, fury, and anger to judge the entire earth, those who found eating pork, mice, and other abominations will be "consumed together". Pork never has been, nor ever will be, fit fare for the Christian."

I am LOL at your expectation of contextual purity in your 1st comment and then you destroy that expectation in your second comment.
Jesus is not coming to judge man on the basis of what he has eaten my man. He is going to judge man on the basis of his acceptance or rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ as his Saviour!!!!!!!

You literally said that people who eat pork, mice and other abominations will be found guilty by God and sentenced to hell. That tells me a few things.
ONE.....you really do not grasp the Scriptures fully and do not understand the grace of God.
SECOND.....you are in the camp of those who are called Judiazers. You believe Jesus is the Christ BUT what He did on the cross just was not enough and thereby we must also keep the Law as well as faith in Christ.
THIRD.....you have never ever been hungry.

Do you ever just stop and think about what you are saying before you hit the "post" key on your keyboard. HONESTLY my brother some of your thoughts are so beyond normal that I am beginning to be concerned about you.

Well gotta go. All this talk about food has made me hungry. I am going to go and make a big HAM sandwich for lunch.
 
C'mon, Major, the concluding statement "for it is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer" is not a byword, it is that upon which Paul's entire spiritual proposition rests. Do you not believe Paul that the creatures we are to receive are only those which are sanctified by the Word of God and prayer?

Isn't that what he said????

1 Timothy 4:3 tells us that in the last days some shall depart from the faith and they will be those......
"3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth."


Matthew Henry said of this verse......
False teachers forbid as evil what God has allowed, and command as a duty what he has left indifferent.
We find exercise for watchfulness and self-denial, in attending to the requirements of God's law, without being tasked to imaginary duties, which reject what he has allowed. But nothing justifies an intemperate or improper use of things; and nothing will be good to us, unless we seek by prayer for the Lord's blessing upon it.

How could that be made any clearer?????
 
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It is not I nor Paul who suggest cannibalism. However, I believe those who use this verse to justify eating whatever crawls across our plate do so inadvertently by ignoring the context of the verse, which is that any creatures we eat must first be sanctified by the Bible and prayer.

O but yes you did. Your exact words were...........

"A human is a creature, but humans aren't sanctified (set apart) by the Word of God for food".

You said it ....you own it my friend.

Honestly....think before you post such things!
 
If you would like to understand the whole bible your answers will be found in Jesus. Read the gospel of john and you will find from genesis to revelation it is all about Him. He is the author and finisher of our faith.

peter
 
I like talking with you 777 but you do come up with oddest ideas of anyone I have known now for a long time.

You said.........
"What a profound truth of Jesus, but please let us examine His words carefully. When He said "it is not that which enters a man's mouth that defiles", was the immediate context "food", or some "non-food defilement"?"

Then in the very next sentence you equate Isaiah 66:15-17 with..............
"says in the clearest and highest degree of context that when the Lord Jesus comes back with fire, fury, and anger to judge the entire earth, those who found eating pork, mice, and other abominations will be "consumed together". Pork never has been, nor ever will be, fit fare for the Christian."

I am LOL at your expectation of contextual purity in your 1st comment and then you destroy that expectation in your second comment.
Jesus is not coming to judge man on the basis of what he has eaten my man. He is going to judge man on the basis of his acceptance or rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ as his Saviour!!!!!!!

You literally said that people who eat pork, mice and other abominations will be found guilty by God and sentenced to hell. That tells me a few things.
ONE.....you really do not grasp the Scriptures fully and do not understand the grace of God.
SECOND.....you are in the camp of those who are called Judiazers. You believe Jesus is the Christ BUT what He did on the cross just was not enough and thereby we must also keep the Law as well as faith in Christ.
THIRD.....you have never ever been hungry.

Do you ever just stop and think about what you are saying before you hit the "post" key on your keyboard. HONESTLY my brother some of your thoughts are so beyond normal that I am beginning to be concerned about you.

Well gotta go. All this talk about food has made me hungry. I am going to go and make a big HAM sandwich for lunch.
(facepalm) LOL. Brother, if you re-read that post, you'll see that my verse from Isaiah was my proof text that Jesus and the Jews were discussing the validity of their supposed ritualistic remedy of "spiritual defilement" by ceremonial handwashing, and NOT discussing menu items. The verse in Isaiah proves this, in that this same Jesus' inspired Isaiah to warn of the destruction of pork eaters at His second coming. Nothing was destroyed, my bro.

Why do you question my grasp of the Scriptures? Because I read them critically, instead of just going along with popular notions? Brother, if Isaiah says Jesus is going to destroy pork eaters when He returns, they maybe pork lovers need to stop searching the Scriptures for "proof" texts in order to excuse behavior that God condemns. Jesus was NOT establishing unclean pork as now clean by His words to the Jews, He was rebuking Jews for their useless rituals as a means of removing defilement and pointing them to the true source of man's defilement - his unconverted heart. A pig is still a filthy animal that we have never been given permission to consume, either in the OT or the NT.
 
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O but yes you did. Your exact words were...........

"A human is a creature, but humans aren't sanctified (set apart) by the Word of God for food".

You said it ....you own it my friend.

Honestly....think before you post such things!
Brother, I'll be happy to clear up the confusion for you as to why the Bible does not condone cannibalism:
  1. Advocates, such as you, for the consumption of filthy, toxic, diseased, unclean meat such as pork and shellfish always appeal to Paul when he said "every creature" is not to be refused.
  2. To demonstrate that "every creature" does not mean "every creature that crawls across our plate", I challenge these advocates to consider that humans are creatures as well - which at this point they should be saying, "Whoa, we're not supposed to eat humans! What does Paul mean?"
  3. To those who accept the challenge to seek what Paul truly means, I simply point them to the context of Paul's words: It is every creature that is "sanctified (sanctified means set apart for particular use) by the Word of God" as an acceptable menu item in Leviticus - those that are clean - that Paul is referring to.
  4. As lagniappe, I share with them that Paul is speaking of the same religious system that the other prophets so often spoke of - an end time, unholy religious institution that forbids its priests to marry and commands its members to abstain from clean meat on certain days.
So, you see, it is the strict interpreter of Paul's words which claims he means "every creature that crawls across your plate" that advocates cannibalism, not those of us who understand that Paul is speaking of "every creature" that is "sanctified by the Word of God". Humans, pigs, shellfish, mice, monkeys, and many other creatures are not set apart as menu items and those knowingly consume any of these that God has forbidden will not be meeting Jesus in peace according to Isaiah 66 because they will have been found to presume upon His grace, what King David calls the "Great Transgression".
 
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GBzone

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What a profound truth of Jesus, but please let us examine His words carefully. When He said "it is not that which enters a man's mouth that defiles", was the immediate context "food", or some "non-food defilement"?

We have to admit that the context has nothing to do with food items, but the Pharisaic belief of "righteousness by ritual" where "defilement" needed to be ceremoniously washed from their hands before each meal course - that was the point of contention. Jesus words were in condemnation of men who did not discern Jeremiah's words: "For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD." How can we be sure that this analysis is correct?

I'm afraid Isaiah 66:15-17 says in the clearest and highest degree of context that when the Lord Jesus comes back with fire, fury, and anger to judge the entire earth, those who found eating pork, mice, and other abominations will be "consumed together". Pork never has been, nor ever will be, fit fare for the Christian. :)

This is nonsense .

He was specifically speaking about food on the one hand as to what a man eats or goes INTO his mouth is then purged by the natural order of the body. math 15:11
and that the kingdom of God is not in meat and drink .Romans 14:7
and what really does defile a man that what comes OUT of his mouth.

It would be profitable to any one to actually do a word search on the mouth in scripture as to what can and does defile and words that do not as well as other things.

Now as to Isaiah . It is not I that sent down a sheet from heaven with both clean and un clean things upon it and commanded Peter to eat and it is not I who recorded that Peter refused saying I have never allowed anything unclean to pass my lips (or eat) .
It is not me who said say not a thing is unclean what I have cleaned Acts 10

But there is also

Roman 14:4 though does say "................ there is nothing unclean of itself ,but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean to him it is unclean"

It is not then ( like others with the Sabbath ) for you to impose you faith on others but each must be" fully persuaded" in his own heart and mind .Not on the perceptions of one man but on the whole of scripture .
For those same scriptures teach in the Old testament WHY God made a difference (as already stated ) between the clean and the unclean and by inference what really defiles a man .
For meat and drink is all about externals .
The kingdom of God is about internals .

in Christ
gerald
 
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