When you 'see' Christ on the Cross, do you see Law or Gospel?
I see a man empowered by God -- indeed who is God -- giving of himself so we may live.When you 'see' Christ on the Cross, do you see Law or Gospel?
So your answer would be Gospel.I see a man empowered by God -- indeed who is God -- giving of himself so we may live.
Dear crossnote that is a question I have not considered this way. When I see Christ on the cross I reflexively think John, 3:16When you 'see' Christ on the Cross, do you see Law or Gospel?
I am not sure what you mean by the question. Could you elaborate?So your answer would be Gospel.
Some people see Good news (forgiveness) and some people see what put Christ on the cross... their sin/breaking of God's law.I am not sure what you mean by the question. Could you elaborate?
It appears to be Gospel. Yet the reason He gave His Life was our sins (breaking of God's law). And sure, Christ was passively fulfilling the law as a sacrificial lamb dying for our sins. See post #7 as an example of both law and Gospel.Dear crossnote that is a question I have not considered this way. When I see Christ on the cross I reflexively think John, 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Is this Gospel or fulfillment of the Law?
I am on board, but the word “passively” seems not quite right.And sure, Christ was passively fulfilling the law
Those are good points, I believe it refers to passages like 'He was taken', 'It was the Father's good pleasure', 'He was cut off from the land of the living',iow, that which was done to Him, all needed to fulfill the law.... even though it was in God's plan all along.I am on board, but the word “passively” seems not quite right.
John6:39
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Mark 10:45
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
John 12:24-27
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. If anyone serves me, he must follow me; and where I am, there will my servant be also. If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him. “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? But for this purpose I have come to this hour.”
Excellent question.When you 'see' Christ on the Cross, do you see Law or Gospel?
I know this is sort of going off on a tangent, but would you say there is both law and Gospel in the OT as well as the NT (of course not for justification before God) and perhaps, this is part of the reason we see both law and Gospel when we ‘survey’ the cross?The Law in the Old Test. is the do’s and don’t’s of moral behavior.
The Gospel, on the other hand, is the good news of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus for our sins. It is the message of what God has done for us, our deliverance from sin and the punishment of the Law and death because of the Law.(Me knowing how theological sound you are)
YES! O my YES!I know this is sort of going off on a tangent, but would you say there is both law and Gospel in the OT as well as the NT (of course not for justification before God) and perhaps, this is part of the reason we see both law and Gospel when we ‘survey’ the cross?
Or perhaps Bethany, near where He ascended…I for one believe that Mt. Moriah will be the place Jesus comes to the next time He comes....Mt. of Olives which is on the slope of Mt. Moriah (Zech 14)
The entire area of Jerusalem is on Mt. Moriah and Mt. Of Olives is actually Mt. Moriah. Bethany is about 2 miles east of Jerusalem but still considered Mt. Moriah. The edges of Bethany reached to the Mount of Olives and also bordered Bethphage, a suburb of Jerusalem.Or perhaps Bethany, near where He ascended…
Luke 24:50-51
And he led them out as far as Bethany, and lifting up his hands he blessed them. [51] While he blessed them, he parted from them and was carried up into heaven.
I tried looking that up but can’t find where Bethany is part of Mt. Moriah.The entire area of Jerusalem is on Mt. Moriah and Mt. Of Olives is actually Mt. Moriah. Bethany is about 2 miles east of Jerusalem but still considered Mt. Moriah. The edges of Bethany reached to the Mount of Olives and also bordered Bethphage, a suburb of Jerusalem.
I tried looking that up but can’t find where Bethany is part of Mt. Moriah.
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Source:.....https://sareltours.com/article/mountains-surrounding-jerusalem
Seven mountain peaks surround the ancient City of Jerusalem (which was then much smaller than modern day Jerusalem which has greatly expanded in recent generations). These peaks are .....
(1) Mount Scopus,
(2) Mount of Olives.........(Bethany is on the eastern side about 2 miles from Jerusalem).
(3) Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks of a ridge stretching east of the City itself),
(4) Mount Ophel,
(5) the original Mount Zion/Moriah (today’s Temple Mt.),
(6) the New Mount Zion (where the traditional Upper Room is located), and
(7) the peak upon which the Roman Antonia Fortress was built just north of the Temple.
These seven peaks surround the biblical city of Jerusalem from all sides.
Bethany, a small village and biblical site on the eastern slopes of the Mount of Olives just outside Jerusalem, situated in the West Bank.
Source: https://www.britannica.com/place/Bethany-village-West-Bank