Michael Collum
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Colossians Chapter 3:1-17
Now this is sound advice . I notice especially the "set your minds" instruction .
I would suppose everyone but me would interpret this figuratively . I really think i did die . but guess that doesn't matter or change anything about what is written next .
Hmm so because of covetousness in its various forms the wrath of God is coming . good to know . Putting to death seems an interesting thing to say . doesn't give any instructions on how to do that so maybe that's something God has to teach you .
So then i think .. literal or figurative .. the death thing? but hmmmmm i think either way the important part is that the previous way of life is spoken of in the past tense as if you had died and were given a new life in a new body .
Hmm i think we all need an instruction manual regarding putting off the old self . because it is written "you must" rid from yourself all these bad things .. but doesn't say how . so must be something God instructs us on since each person is different .
Hmm put on the new self .. now how did we do that? God must have shown us .. and provided the new self . "renewed in the image .." so that's like the self of the bad stuff mentioned in verses 8&9 was gotten rid of somehow i guess died .. er maybe . yeah dead anyway kinda like Adam died the same day he ate the fruit perhaps . but i'm still reading it literally
. So we are now a new species . the outward appearance means nothing . our nationality means nothing . our social status means nothing . Because when God looks at us all in Christ . He sees Christ . Read Gal 3:28 to complete the list of what we are not and what we are in Christ if you are so interested .
Therefore .. let's see what it is there for .. so from the above passage .. how does one get .. that we are therefore God's chosen people? I think the whole .. you died and now have put on God's very appearance and likeness does it .. but that's just me
Therefore, holy and dearly loved .. hmm so if you didn't feel holy yourself and dearly loved yourself when reading the above passage the first time . know that understanding that being of those whom it is said "Christ is all . and is in all ." are holy and dearly loved . go back and read it again .
I'd say this a core principle . but the instruction on how to do any of these things seems to be missing . therefore .. God must have the answer . Go seek Him and ask Him to lead you from knowledge into all truth .
Hmm this is interesting . "let" the peace of Christ rule in your hearts . so .. what obstructs it .. and what constitutes .. letting? i guess again . this is where one seeks God and finds out for themselves . As a body we were called to peace . we were not called to be anything else . peace is the characteristic of our calling as a body . Thankfulness and peace kinda go hand in hand .
Well .. i don't think the passage is asking us to be oversaved, but this definitely is an interesting instruction . it says to teach each other based how you've been living the words of Christ (wisdom) . I think i've seen other translations where it says to greet each other with love songs to God (indwelling) but this one seems more "as you worship God together in song ." tehe . big difference . :blush:
Whatever you do, speaking or acting, do it in Christ's name/honour/authority in a spirit of thankfulness toward God the Father .
So... what i've gotten from this .. we've been given a whole bunch of instructions that are counter-intuitive with no instructions to actually complete those tasks . but the good news is we have Christ indwelling . So it is sure that what is impossible for us to do . will be possible with God very God indwelling us . Father transform us . if we have the old nature on . help us learn to take it off . and if we have the new nature on but put on the old smelly socks for some reason . help us see that . and teach us how to fully take off the old nature . and how to fully put on the new self . and i know you are faithful in providing the love and power to walk in that life also . as we walk toward you . may we not be the same ever again . in Jesus name Amen .
Colossians 3
1Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.
Now this is sound advice . I notice especially the "set your minds" instruction .
3For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
I would suppose everyone but me would interpret this figuratively . I really think i did die . but guess that doesn't matter or change anything about what is written next .
5Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.
Hmm so because of covetousness in its various forms the wrath of God is coming . good to know . Putting to death seems an interesting thing to say . doesn't give any instructions on how to do that so maybe that's something God has to teach you .
7You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived.
So then i think .. literal or figurative .. the death thing? but hmmmmm i think either way the important part is that the previous way of life is spoken of in the past tense as if you had died and were given a new life in a new body .
8But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices
Hmm i think we all need an instruction manual regarding putting off the old self . because it is written "you must" rid from yourself all these bad things .. but doesn't say how . so must be something God instructs us on since each person is different .
10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
Hmm put on the new self .. now how did we do that? God must have shown us .. and provided the new self . "renewed in the image .." so that's like the self of the bad stuff mentioned in verses 8&9 was gotten rid of somehow i guess died .. er maybe . yeah dead anyway kinda like Adam died the same day he ate the fruit perhaps . but i'm still reading it literally

12Therefore, as God's chosen people,
Therefore .. let's see what it is there for .. so from the above passage .. how does one get .. that we are therefore God's chosen people? I think the whole .. you died and now have put on God's very appearance and likeness does it .. but that's just me

holy and dearly loved,
Therefore, holy and dearly loved .. hmm so if you didn't feel holy yourself and dearly loved yourself when reading the above passage the first time . know that understanding that being of those whom it is said "Christ is all . and is in all ." are holy and dearly loved . go back and read it again .
clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.
I'd say this a core principle . but the instruction on how to do any of these things seems to be missing . therefore .. God must have the answer . Go seek Him and ask Him to lead you from knowledge into all truth .
15Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful.
Hmm this is interesting . "let" the peace of Christ rule in your hearts . so .. what obstructs it .. and what constitutes .. letting? i guess again . this is where one seeks God and finds out for themselves . As a body we were called to peace . we were not called to be anything else . peace is the characteristic of our calling as a body . Thankfulness and peace kinda go hand in hand .
16Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God.
Well .. i don't think the passage is asking us to be oversaved, but this definitely is an interesting instruction . it says to teach each other based how you've been living the words of Christ (wisdom) . I think i've seen other translations where it says to greet each other with love songs to God (indwelling) but this one seems more "as you worship God together in song ." tehe . big difference . :blush:
17And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
Whatever you do, speaking or acting, do it in Christ's name/honour/authority in a spirit of thankfulness toward God the Father .
So... what i've gotten from this .. we've been given a whole bunch of instructions that are counter-intuitive with no instructions to actually complete those tasks . but the good news is we have Christ indwelling . So it is sure that what is impossible for us to do . will be possible with God very God indwelling us . Father transform us . if we have the old nature on . help us learn to take it off . and if we have the new nature on but put on the old smelly socks for some reason . help us see that . and teach us how to fully take off the old nature . and how to fully put on the new self . and i know you are faithful in providing the love and power to walk in that life also . as we walk toward you . may we not be the same ever again . in Jesus name Amen .