If this is directed at me I do have a concordance and I don't believe Peace's name is Lance
Days Of Noah
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PeaceLikeaRiver
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Assuming you're speaking to me and not Lance, I mean no disrespect to "saved" Christians, it's just something I've never gotten behind because it makes no sense to me. It's as much as anything a grammatical issue because the word itself is past tense, and, well, no one's saved you yet. I think salvation is a lifelong process we strive towards and after we did then we know if we were saved.
Hi Peace. Can you provide scripture where it says it is a life long process to be saved? Yes through our life we continue to grow, but when we become saved we are filled with the Holy Spirit and nothing else needs to be done. We are to live Godly lives and try our best not to sin. This doesn't mean we are earning our salvation.
PeaceLikeaRiver
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No I can't do that, because I'm not a Bible-only Christian like you are. I look also to sacred tradition and the Magisterium in addition to the Bible.
Tradition is what the Pharisees fell into and see where it got them? Everything we need to know about how to live a Christian life is found in the Bible. If anything within tradition strays away from the Bible then it isn't wise to follow it. I'm not saying we can't have a tradition of sort, but it needs to be backed up with scripture.
Peace
Hmmm, I have investigated it myself but I'm not there. The Pope is considered infallible, and yet throughout history the different Popes have changed their official position on the same subject can't be infallible and change down the line what is considered at one point infallible, that would make it fallible.
PeaceLikeaRiver
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What was there before the Bible?
And yet another thread so far off topic there's no chance to bring it back. Sigh
The word has always been there. Remember the verse that says Heaven and Earth will pass away but the word of God won't?
And Lisa I don't understand why you quote me and then talk to peace? Getting a little confused.
PeaceLikeaRiver
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I think you'll find the Bible was codified by the church.
I think you will find God was around before the Church. Since we are causing this thread to stray from the topic I'll leave it at that.
It is true the day and hour no one knows; however, we as Christians who possess the light of the Holy Spirit, CAN KNOW the SEASON. By observing the signs of the season we are in today, we can be encouraged by Luke 21:28 "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."
Yes, calvin...for the most part rebellious mankind was unaware of what was coming. However, Noah and his family (possessing the light of God's Word to them) were NOT unaware and they observed the signs God gave them to save them from the flood.
I had always thought the Lord was saying here that man would not live over 120 years old from then on. And truly, mankind's average lifespan was greatly shortened from hundreds of years to just a few decades after the flood. So it is interesting to me to see another understanding on what the Lord was saying here. Do you know for sure that it was only another 120 years before the flood came? I have never studied this...
I find it interesting that even though Noah was able to preach to the rebellious crowd of mankind for another 120 years, none came to accept the salvation offered (the ark). This is another parallel sign of what we see today...it can be discouraging to speak the Word to people and not see their repentence. But, like Noah, we are only responsible for continuing to speak the Word and we are not responsible for their choices.