Foreign Aid to Nations---Your Thoughts?

Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac is a Palestinian Christian. He is more qualified to answer your question then I am.

May the Lord keep them and bless them

Major has already given you his answer.

Mine hasn't changed, Jesus said my sheep will hear my voice
Now you have a choice what you want to believe ;)
I listened to Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac.

He said......."If you believe that the Jews have a right to the land, then what about me as a Palestinian"!

It has NOTHING to do with what we believe but has everything to do with what God has said.

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, .......
“To your offspring I will give this land.”

Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise:.......
“To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates”.

Then, later in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: ........
“The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.”

God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac in Gen. 26:3-4 and Isaac’s son Jacob in Gen. 28:13, whose name God later changed to Israel.

WHY Palestinians lay claim to the land of Israel is a total mystery to ME. Israel has inhabited the area for thousands of years.

Historical facts are that chain of sovereignty goes:
Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, Israelites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, the Sunni Arab Caliphates, the Shia Fatimid Caliphate, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mameluks, Ottomans, the British, and then Israelis again.
Source - https://politics.stackexchange.com/...of-israeli-and-palestinian-claims-to-the-land.

Did YOU see and Note that NONE of the sovereign entities in the area were "Palestinian Arabs" - it was either foreign invaders, or Israelites.

Second fact.........The Land was promised to Abraham/Sara and his LEGETIMATE son by marriage, Isaac. Ismaels (Arab) was the ILLEGETIMATE son of Abraham therefore there is NO inheritance of the land.
 

I listened to Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac.

He said......."If you believe that the Jews have a right to the land, then what about me as a Palestinian"!

It has NOTHING to do with what we believe but has everything to do with what God has said.

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, .......
“To your offspring I will give this land.”

Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise:.......
“To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates”.

Then, later in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: ........
“The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.”

God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac in Gen. 26:3-4 and Isaac’s son Jacob in Gen. 28:13, whose name God later changed to Israel.

WHY Palestinians lay claim to the land of Israel is a total mystery to ME. Israel has inhabited the area for thousands of years.

Historical facts are that chain of sovereignty goes:
Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, Israelites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, the Sunni Arab Caliphates, the Shia Fatimid Caliphate, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mameluks, Ottomans, the British, and then Israelis again.
Source - https://politics.stackexchange.com/...of-israeli-and-palestinian-claims-to-the-land.

Did YOU see and Note that NONE of the sovereign entities in the area were "Palestinian Arabs" - it was either foreign invaders, or Israelites.

Second fact.........The Land was promised to Abraham/Sara and his LEGETIMATE son by marriage, Isaac. Ismaels (Arab) was the ILLEGETIMATE son of Abraham therefore there is NO inheritance of the land.
Replacement theologians will never concede that Israel has a right to any part of the Holy Land. In their antisemitic zeal they want to turn God into a liar and the Bible into a lie just because they hate the Jewish people. It was replacement theologians of the Roman Church that aided the escape of Nazis who ran the concentration camps by organizing the Rat Line.
 
Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac is a Palestinian Christian. He is more qualified to answer your question then I am.

May the Lord keep them and bless them

Major has already given you his answer.

Mine hasn't changed, Jesus said my sheep will hear my voice
Now you have a choice what you want to believe ;)
Well, people have different convictions when it comes to eschatology, but I sure wouldn't base my views on some YouTube videos.
 
This is just a question to get YOU to think about the world you live in.

Abstract facts..........Since 1985 about 95 percent of U.N. member states that receive U.S. assistance have voted against the United States most of the time in the U.N. General Assembly on non-consensus votes.

The USA gives aid to 180 countries of which YOU pay 100% in YOUR taxes paid every year.
The top four countries are ...........
Ukraine, ====$17,200,000

Israel, ======$3,300,000

Jordon =====$1,700,000

Egypt===== =$1,500,000

Ukraine and Israel are there because of the recent conflicts there.

The next 10 are.......
Ethiopia=====$1,457,374,911

Somalia=====$1,181,033,990 ......Radical Muslim and Anti-USA

Nigeria======$1,019,947,490

Congo ======$990,456,757

Afghanistan===$886,536,741...........Radical Muslim Terrorist Anti-USA

Kenya=======$846,303,488..........Radical Muslim Terrorist Anti-USA

Mozambique===$776,819,594.........Radical Muslim Anti-USA

Syria=========$762,793,444........Radical Muslim Anti-USA

South Sudan====$755,501,999.........Radical Muslim Anti-USA

Colombia======$738,778,592..........Radical anti-USA

Yemen========$733,316,883...........Radical Muslim anti-USA

Now, knowing what you are paying for, what are your feelings on these countries and the fact that only Israel has voted with the USA 95% of the time.

The average % of Muslim countries receiving USA aid who voted with the USA is 7% of the time.

What are your toughts?
I am against foreign aid. It's just politicians being generous with other people's money. They will always have some very good reason, such as, by threatening to withhold aid, we can get nations to do what we want, or stuff like that. It doesn't matter. It's the principle of it. Why should a nation's tax money go towards anything other than the welfare of her citizens? If there are truly nations that we need to influence, we can do it either through diplomatic means, or we can do it through trade, trade agreements and such. If we need to influence other countries by sending them money, it's actually an incredibly embarrassing thing. It tells me that the leader of my country has failed miserably.
 
I am against foreign aid. It's just politicians being generous with other people's money. They will always have some very good reason, such as, by threatening to withhold aid, we can get nations to do what we want, or stuff like that. It doesn't matter. It's the principle of it. Why should a nation's tax money go towards anything other than the welfare of her citizens? If there are truly nations that we need to influence, we can do it either through diplomatic means, or we can do it through trade, trade agreements and such. If we need to influence other countries by sending them money, it's actually an incredibly embarrassing thing. It tells me that the leader of my country has failed miserably.
About the only reason I can think of for foreign aid is for humanitarian purposes. No one wants anyone to stave because of the lack of food.

Now, the question must be, how many times or how many years in a row should that aid be given????

Does the country receiving humanitarian aid, food......not know how to plant or raise cattle?
Do that not have rain or the ability to water their crops?
Should the USA continue to aid those countries year after year???
 
Well, people have different convictions when it comes to eschatology, but I sure wouldn't base my views on some YouTube vide
Neither would I
I said in my introduction that I studied a lot of -isms.
About 40 years ago I first learnt about Disp. in Seminaries and it is taught in many Churches.

A while ago I also made a comment that it is now paramount in those last days to search the Scriptures daily as the
Bereans did.
I learnt that the discussions here often go round in circles, not much point to enter deep doctrinal discussions

I also don't base my views on Internet forums.
They might be helpful, but still...
But I do appreciate your posts and gentle comments !

May the Lord help and protect those Palestinian Christians.
May they be a shining light and and a witness for Christ, His Love and His Gospel.

May we in the West wake up and proclaim the Gospel again the way Johnathan Edwards did it.
"Sinners in the hands of and angry God" is probably more relevant then ever.


Blessings...
 
Neither would I I said in my introduction that I studied a lot of -isms. About 40 years ago I first learnt about Disp. in Seminaries and it is taught in many Churches. A while ago I also made a comment that it is now paramount in those last days to search the Scriptures daily as the Bereans did. I learnt that the discussions here often go round in circles, not much point to enter deep doctrinal discussions I also don't base my views on Internet forums. They might be helpful, but still...But I do appreciate your posts and gentle comments !

May the Lord help and protect those Palestinian Christians. May they be a shining light and and a witness for Christ, His Love and His Gospel. May we in the West wake up and proclaim the Gospel again the way Johnathan Edwards did it. "Sinners in the hands of and angry God" is probably more relevant then ever.
Blessings...

Hello Sola gratia;

Discussions do go around in circles, that's why they're called discussions. The key is to allow thoughts, opinions, erroneous statements and facts intermix until the discussion arrives at an understanding.

The KEY that many of our discussions struggle with is allowing for other's views, listening, correction and learning. This forms the bond of Christian fellowship, which should be the bigger picture.

Truth stings. We all need to get a grip.

But to dismiss or display authoritative statements causes a divide without giving the other a chance to dialogue. This is not a conversation.

I know you have a heart for the Palestinian Christians. All Christology has a past history and this helps us understand and benefit where we are today, and going forward what our resolve is for the future.

When we arrive at an understanding in our forums, even when it goes around in circles is ok. The goal is arriving at an understanding to strengthen our bond and knowing how to pray for all peoples.

God bless everyone here.

Bob


 
I said in my introduction that I studied a lot of -isms.
About 40 years ago I first learnt about Disp. in Seminaries and it is taught in many Churches.
I never went to seminary, but I have found that dispensational thought had pieced together many loose ends in my theology, not only in Scripture, but also in world history. A dispensational book I like to recommend is by Arnold Fruchtenbaum, called "Israelology" subtitled 'the missing link in systematic theology'. It's quite a thick book but well worth the read.
 
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Neither would I
I said in my introduction that I studied a lot of -isms.
About 40 years ago I first learnt about Disp. in Seminaries and it is taught in many Churches.

A while ago I also made a comment that it is now paramount in those last days to search the Scriptures daily as the
Bereans did.
I learnt that the discussions here often go round in circles, not much point to enter deep doctrinal discussions

I also don't base my views on Internet forums.
They might be helpful, but still...
But I do appreciate your posts and gentle comments !

May the Lord help and protect those Palestinian Christians.
May they be a shining light and and a witness for Christ, His Love and His Gospel.

May we in the West wake up and proclaim the Gospel again the way Johnathan Edwards did it.
"Sinners in the hands of and angry God" is probably more relevant then ever.


Blessings...
You said......
"I learnt that the discussions here often go round in circles, not much point to enter deep doctrinal discussions."

By "HERE" you are referring to this forum. I would add to that the entire sphere of your existence.

That is because we are all humans and as such we all want to be right at all costs!

Why do you think that husbands and wifes argue???? Each one wants to be right! To be right make them the winner and that is what is programed into our human brains from birth to death.......DO GOOD AND BE RIGHT!

At the root of all this is the phycological fact of.........We like what we know even if what we know is wrong!.
 
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