My doctrine? There is only one truth and then there is alot of nonsense. According to the truth....I am merely pointing out that you cannot blame God for creating evil. All He did was create intelligent beings able to freely choose it...which is best defined as rebellion to Him and His ways.I understand that your doctrine teaches these things. I'm not sure if you were responding to my hypothetical argument with this, or if you were just trying to educate me on what you believe. Either is fine with me, but I need to know which one so I can better respond..
You are on a Christian site trying to define God. I am merely pointing out that if you are going to try that with our God, use scripture properly and not to insert assumptions. The MOST typical being....God created all, God created evil, God created many for hell (your post # 6). That my friend is simply ignorance and a complete misrepresentation of scripture / the truth .If God can't at least be defined, then any questions of God are impossible to answer. If God really couldn't be defined in some way, then it's impossible to believe he exists/doesn't exist. If I asked you if you believe in ljfaghakdgj, you'd have to have a definition before you could begin to have a conversation about it.
Here is where you are in denial bud. You KNOW God made you! Nobody can honestly look at themselves and deny the existence of intelligent design. I have been where you are and I have discussed with 100's of atheists. If you say you do not believe...I know you have not meditated on God / really applied your mind to it. You are either 1. at the very first stage of seeking God or 2. You are in sin and know it....You want to ease your conscience by harrassing faithful believers (I used to do it) or 3. You have been reading some Richard Dawkins books and are going through a brainwashed phase.You're asking me to assume and respect things about something that I don't believe in. That's impossible.
Logically impossible? STOP reading atheist material for a while!!! sit down and let your thoughts and some applied common sense kick in! You had NO control over being created. You have FULL control over what you choose to do today. God created you and that same God is giving you true free will / space to exercise it. Saying there is no God / God is evil so you don't care much for Him.... is dodging and will NOT hold water when you stand before Him on your judgement day. Perhaps you want to raise your actual concerns about God? Why exactly do you not want to get on your knees and serve / submit / repent before Him?If you're convinced of that, then you have a misunderstanding. First off, my position isn't to simply say "there are no gods". My view of the question of gods is to first define what is meant by "God". Then I make a decision about it. Different people mean different things when they say "God".
The commonly held concept of the Christian God (all knowing, all powerful, creator of all that exists, yet holds us accountable for evil) is logically impossible. That's what explains my atheism with respect to that concept.
You are in a hole, there is ONLY one way out. You are completely dodging reality / the need to face the truth by saying the underlined! If you cannot accept that 0 + 0 does not and never can equal 1, there is simply no possible logical discussion with you. We delay / chase our tail /delude ourselves by thinking there are other options. I have heard them all...we came from sludge, from an astronaut, from big bang, from ..... its high time all atheists faced reality ! The ONLY option available is that there is a God / creator. Deal with it and stop daydreaming / stalling / showing ignorance.What you're doing is a logical fallacy called argument from ignorance. This means you don't know how something happened, so you just assume a cause. "I can't think of any explanation for the universe, so it MUST be a creation" - this is an error in logic. Also, the existence of apparent laws of physics isn't good enough to be evidence of a creator..
What I have found in my many discussions with atheists (I am not including you in this bunch as you are young) is that you really don't need to scratch them hard before their hatred for Christianity / God is shown. Most atheists are ex-Christians . A normal person would not be atheist. Someone who is an atheist has applied effort in the direction of not believing in God. That effort has a source. That source is mostly hatred and desirous of entertaining any God bashing thoughts.
No, the logical answer is to acknowledge physics and its clear limitations. Logic should also tell us that the complexity of our thumb is no co-incidence. Our superior intelligence over all animals is no co-incidence. The existence / survival of the Jewish race is no co-incidence. Jesus's impact on the world is no co-incidence http://www.thesacredpage.com/2008/04/napoleons-proof-for-divinity-of-jesus.html. Logic should tell us all that we are going to have to give an account one-day for all we have done and there is NO escaping that! Despite what thoughts of the day we choose to entertain.The only logical answer to our existence is to say "we don't know", rather than jump to a conclusion that it was created by a being
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