God's Word Offends !

[Major]

Hello D3v, Major and crossnote;

Do we know it is Biblical to study and read the Word to gain Truth but also to gain knowledge and "distinguish the difference in application," for example, before we judge others?

Two distinguishments I have learned in my study of judging. When Jesus teaches that we should not judge one another, He points to me looking at the "speck" in my brother or sister's eye, without acknowledging the "log" in my own eye?

Jesus just judged me because I'm guilty of this, I have learned but will keep on learning this teaching the rest of my days until I go to my Maker.

The "speck" refers to the flaws and imperfections in our brother or sister's walk in Christ, the decisions they make, senseless remarks, or their characteristic values in life, and more. Matthew 7:1-4 - ESV

Jesus confirms His teaching, “Do not judge according to appearance," and He adds, "but judge with righteous judgment.” Jesus wants us to judge, but judge righteously. John 7:24 - NKJV

And in The Law of Moses says: “In righteousness, you shall judge your neighbour.” Leviticus 19:16 - NKJV

crossnote made a good point and I agree with him in this age of tolerance.

Major, the worst of examples such as cohabitation, abortion to compensate for having freewill sex, rebelling against God's creation by choosing their gender and instant gratification of satisfying one's own flesh...All these have long been tolerated since the Old Testament. There were other methods of abortion that the Egyptians, Romans, Greeks and Jews used to end pregnancy. All These have increased because of our choice of freedom instead of our choice to learn from Christ.

Whether in society or in the church, Jesus called them out in righteousness, and we are to do the same in righteousness.

But we aren't to just "shoot from the hip." The Lord equips us with what to say and do at that moment. It isn't easy but with God, He can do all things especially in our witness to people, not just sharing the Gospel but pointing out heinous sin and the power to repent from it.

God bless you all in this discussion.

I agree. My point however is that up to 1973, abortion was "tolerated" and done with the medical words of "DNC".

My objection is that our society legalized the murder of the unborn in 1973 and the Church rolled over and played dead and as a result, 65 million people are dead.

People can choose to live in cohabitation and take drugs and get drunk and rob the ABC by choosing to satisfy their sin cravings.......I agree 100%. But legalized abortion removed that choice from a human yet to be born and I have this feeling now for a long time that God is going to judge the USA for this.

You see......the FAMILY UNIT just like the church was God's original plan. In fact, the family unit was in place 4000 years before He instituted the Church. Abortion destroys the family unit just as doe homosexual marriage and their is going to be a price to pay someday for destroying the family unity.

 

[D3vot3d2G0d]

Luke 12:53 ( context 51-54 )...Family

The Father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against the daughter in law ,and the daughter in law against the mother in law.

Jesus said in v.51 that we suppose he came to bring PEACE on the earth but NO rather DIVISION. [51-54] . Division, why ? Salvation is individual not group, and we must ALL make that choice for ourselves.

Ep.6:12 ( context 6-13 ), this is why we need to change our focus to just leading ppl to the Lord by the Spirit.
We DO NOT WRESTLE AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, neither are we able to in ourselves for if we lump the sinner with the sin we may as well walk away, we can't help them.

It is v 12 that we see whom controls this earth and it is NOT BELIEVERS!