Hebrews 5:12

Craig Allen

Craig Allen

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12 KJB

This place is the result of Satan's bible, his 5 word bible.

1 - 3 God is love
4 - 5 Judge not

This Christian site has actually BANNED Christ.

You won't have strife, or words that might divide people.

But that is what HE came here to do, He came to CAUSE division!

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
- Luke 12:51 KJB

Your fear of 'offending' sodomites makes God sick!

He calls even there affections VILE.

Yes, PEOPLE with those affections are VILE to HIM.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature - Romans 1:26 KJB

You pretend that God loves the sinner, but His Word contradicts you, HERE...

...thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5 KJB

The onus always falls ON the sinner, did you really think he loved all the men, women, and children He drowned in the flood?

Really? Do you think that?

John 3:16 and Psalm 5:5 do not contradict one another.

The word BENEVOLENCE homogenizes the two verses.

You better learn why, fast.

Ya'll are a bunch of children, playing 'christian' with Satan's 5 word bible keeping the peace.

Grow Up!
 
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I'm confused, from what I've seen here, there are a ton of disputes, but a solid 90% of them are resolved with a mature manner. As far as being biblical, yes, some answers and ideas fall short of the perfect biblical answer, because, as humans, we are incapable of being right all the time.
Am I going to spit on sinners and shun them from society? No. Am I going to explain to them why what they are doing is wrong, and tell them the salvation through Jesus Christ? Yes.
I'll eat dinner with anybody from a transvestite to a prostitute, because I love them.


1st Corinthians 13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, it profits me nothing.


Im sorry you feel this way about this forum, but there are many others out there.
 
And on a side note, I have grown up, I've been able to tie my shoe for a full 3 weeks now, now if only I could remember which shoe goes on which foot... :ROFLMAO:
 
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Please remain calm, soft and gentle, for this is the nature of Truth and unconditional Love. Love is the symptom of Truth, it is self generating.
Anger, tension, and rudeness is the nature of deception and fear. Fear feeds of fear, it's parasitic, it is the only way it can sustain itself.
It is better to not feed fear at all. It has no power other than suggestion. Ignore it and it will starve.
 
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Craig Allen said:
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12 KJB

This place is the result of Satan's bible, his 5 word bible.

1 - 3 God is love
4 - 5 Judge not

This Christian site has actually BANNED Christ.

You won't have strife, or words that might divide people.

But that is what HE came here to do, He came to CAUSE division!

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
- Luke 12:51 KJB

Your fear of 'offending' sodomites makes God sick!

He calls even there affections VILE.

Yes, PEOPLE with those affections are VILE to HIM.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature - Romans 1:26 KJB

You pretend that God loves the sinner, but His Word contradicts you, HERE...

...thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5 KJB

The onus always falls ON the sinner, did you really think he loved all the men, women, and children He drowned in the flood?

Really? Do you think that?

John 3:16 and Psalm 5:5 do not contradict one another.

The word BENEVOLENCE homogenizes the two verses.

You better learn why, fast.

Ya'll are a bunch of children, playing 'christian' with Satan's 5 word bible keeping the peace.

Grow Up!
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Once again, I see that you are only here to judge and fuss and presume to instruct. Not a good reason to be here, Craig.

Have a nice day, though.
 
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Craig does raise a valid point about strife, even if his manner seems needlessly harsh to me. How many bodies have fallen by the wayside because their members were afraid of possible offense?

Unneeded offense should be avoided, but sometimes offense is needed for the health of the person of group. The field of surgical medicine is predicated on that fact.

In the case of a group like this, the mods have the final call on what is needful or not and would function as the elders of this assembly, otherwise see Matt 18:15-17.
 
Craig Allen said:
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12 KJB

This place is the result of Satan's bible, his 5 word bible.

1 - 3 God is love
4 - 5 Judge not

This Christian site has actually BANNED Christ.

You won't have strife, or words that might divide people.

But that is what HE came here to do, He came to CAUSE division!

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
- Luke 12:51 KJB

Your fear of 'offending' sodomites makes God sick!

He calls even there affections VILE.

Yes, PEOPLE with those affections are VILE to HIM.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature - Romans 1:26 KJB

You pretend that God loves the sinner, but His Word contradicts you, HERE...

...thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5 KJB

The onus always falls ON the sinner, did you really think he loved all the men, women, and children He drowned in the flood?

Really? Do you think that?

John 3:16 and Psalm 5:5 do not contradict one another.

The word BENEVOLENCE homogenizes the two verses.

You better learn why, fast.

Ya'll are a bunch of children, playing 'christian' with Satan's 5 word bible keeping the peace.

Grow Up!
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Thank you once again Craig for your wonderful warm and friendly approach to the written word of God. I hope and pray that you mello out and understand that you as any one else here does not know it all. Just remember this.......judge not lest you be judges or another words with the same judgement you use it shall be used to judge you.

Have a wonderful day Brother
Jim
 
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Not sure what to say..I remember some members on here who actually claimed they were gay or maybe they recovering sodomites, Im not sure, and they got offended pretty quickly at what us christians were saying when quoting scripture, and tried to change the rules. And say we not allowed to talk about what God thinks of that practise.

You need to take that up with moderators.
 
eric m williams said:
Craig does raise a valid point about strife, even if his manner seems needlessly harsh to me. How many bodies have fallen by the wayside because their members were afraid of possible offense?

Unneeded offense should be avoided, but sometimes offense is needed for the health of the person of group. The field of surgical medicine is predicated on that fact.

In the case of a group like this, the mods have the final call on what is needful or not and would function as the elders of this assembly, otherwise see Matt 18:15-17.
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I agree with you that strife is not good, and can open the door to confusion and people not receiving from the Lord, and that as the body of Christ we should be mindful of that.......... but to come in here with a haughty attitude, speaking harshly (which brings about strife) is not of God, especially when he is standing in judgement of everyone else, and doing the very same thing? I have read some of his posts and he is just as guilty. But ya know we all forgive and move on.

2 Timothy 2:23-26 tell us to gently teach someone, and not to argue, but to pray for God to bless them with a gift of repentance.
 
Craig Allen said:
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12 KJB

This place is the result of Satan's bible, his 5 word bible.

1 - 3 God is love
4 - 5 Judge not

This Christian site has actually BANNED Christ.

You won't have strife, or words that might divide people.

But that is what HE came here to do, He came to CAUSE division!

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
- Luke 12:51 KJB

Your fear of 'offending' sodomites makes God sick!

He calls even there affections VILE.

Yes, PEOPLE with those affections are VILE to HIM.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature - Romans 1:26 KJB

You pretend that God loves the sinner, but His Word contradicts you, HERE...

...thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5 KJB

The onus always falls ON the sinner, did you really think he loved all the men, women, and children He drowned in the flood?

Really? Do you think that?

John 3:16 and Psalm 5:5 do not contradict one another.

The word BENEVOLENCE homogenizes the two verses.

You better learn why, fast.

Ya'll are a bunch of children, playing 'christian' with Satan's 5 word bible keeping the peace.

Grow Up!
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I do agree with most of your post.
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
Thank you once again Craig for your wonderful warm and friendly approach to the written word of God. I hope and pray that you mello out and understand that you as any one else here does not know it all. Just remember this.......judge not lest you be judges or another words with the same judgement you use it shall be used to judge you.

Have a wonderful day Brother
Jim
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I thought that the Bible said that we can judge other believers but not unbelievers.
 
Juk said:
I thought that the Bible said that we can judge other believers but not unbelievers.
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Brother Juk take a read through 1 John.
This is not the only place it talks about it but you have to be paid to miss it in 1 John.
No we are not to judge our brother. We are to love and forgive but no place does it say judge your brother. However Juk there are many who think other wise but for me and I hope you to, we shall take the written word of God for what it says.

Blessings my friend
Jim
 
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Fish Catcher Jim said:
Brother Juk take a read through 1 John.
This is not the only place it talks about it but you have to be paid to miss it in 1 John.
No we are not to judge our brother. We are to love and forgive but no place does it say judge your brother. However Juk there are many who think other wise but for me and I hope you to, we shall take the written word of God for what it says.

Blessings my friend
Jim
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Maybe the NLT perverted the verses I read then.
 
We are not to judge the person, but we are to judge actions (1 Cor 5:9-12, Mat 18:15-17, Mat 10:14-15).
The hard part is learning to seperate the two and remembering to forgive when we or someone we care for has been hurt by someone's actions.
 
This thread touches a cord in me because I am presently going
through an extremely difficult family situation that is bringing
a 'division'. That said, I embrace Jesus' example of balance
as we see in His treatment of the woman caught in adultery.
Of the Pharisees that stood poised to condemn her to death,
not one was found in a sinless position to actually carry out
her stoning. Jesus, on the other hand, was sinless and had
every right to stone her... but He did not. That action is love.
He further told her to go, and sin no more. That action is
balance... He didn't tolerate sin.

Today, 'tolerance' is touted as love. But, again, Jesus' example
is one of speaking the truth in love. And, as I've personally seen,
even that brings division.
 
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