How would you define the term holding to a Cessationism theology then?

[YeshuaFan]

And there is the difference between YOU and me. I stopped defending those people a long time ago. I do condemn what they are doing!

There is NO such thing as a man having the gift of physical healing today!!!

All of The faith healers turn their alleged healings into a show as they twist the Bible. The common faith healer methods of getting mildly and moderately ill and disabled people to briefly think they have been healed through hypnosis, other psychological techniques, and subtle tricks have been well documented.

The faith healers have their own variations of claims about why people are promised healing, how they are supposed to receive it, and different explanations about why it doesn’t happen to those who heed them and why the healing that seemed to happen didn’t stick.

I guess the thing that bothers me the most is their total lack of accountability! The one most likely to get blamed when things don’t go as promised is the person who is still sick or injured (even though they totally heeded the faith healer). The faith healers are then more likely to blame Jesus for the failure than they are to blame themselves along with their false healing doctrines and practices.

They have done more to harm the cause of Christ than has Satan.

They actually have been used very effectively by Satan as a Christian Trojan Horse, getting into may pulpits and churches The best thing thst the christians into that theology so called to do would be to pubically rebuke them, show as as being cons and frauds, and kick them out of their churches

 

[YeshuaFan]

"Downright stupid" is a good phrase.

The people who are doing such activity in Jesus’ name are typically Pentecostals or heavily influenced by Pentecostalism.

Faith healers we observe, are therefore often act like showmen, scream inappropriately, practice emotionalism in other ways, believe that nonsense tongues are the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and work with and justify women pastors.

What is amazing and startling is that so many people continue to fall for such ridiculous things.

The word of faith and other religious charlatans should be thankful that we are now under Grace, as it the Holy Spirit still examined and judged them for their doctrines and practices, there would be mass graves needing to be dung for them, for they would pretty much go the way of the couple in Acts who lied to the Holy Spirit

 

[forgiven61]

Pentecost was a unique one time event, not repeatable

never said it did ..since the Church was ushered in ..the works of the day of pentecost continue . i stated and will stand by the gifts of the spirit are alive and well working in each person saved. is the power in acts 1:8 null and void today

 

[YeshuaFan]

never said it did ..since the Church was ushered in ..the works of the day of pentecost continue . i stated and will stand by the gifts of the spirit are alive and well working in each person saved. is the power in acts 1:8 null and void today

No, as its the very same Holy Spirit, but He no longer gives go one gift on tongues, and all redeemed have same power regardless if tongue talking or not

 

[forgiven61]

No, as its the very same Holy Spirit, but He no longer gives go one gift on tongues, and all redeemed have same power regardless if tongue talking or not

HOLD UP at no time time did i mention tongues in my reply .. tongues can be translated other languages also let me clarify i never said the same spirit at pentecost was different ..please do not be adding into what i never said.. as per the tongues movement me personally i am not sure its same kind of tongues paul wrote about..

all i can say is a person is in a church that uses tongues then that is for them.. i will say i know some very dedicated Christians that are true blue to the bone. that speak in tongues . i do not go along with the apostolic oneness doctrine .

i look at this way when paul wrote to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.. each one has to do just that. i do hope this clarifies the matter up