NT tithing

[faither]

First, its plural, tithes. There are three of them. Firstfruits tithe, 10% on income, then 10 percent on any increase.

Most of us look at the tithe as something that was just OT, and isn't required after Christ.

Here's a different take, and what ive been taught.

First we must remember, the NT is enfolded into the OT, and the OT unfolds into the NT.

If we look at Pentecost, when the called out ones received the Spirit of Christ, the automatic reaction was to give away all they possessed. And after they did that, the desire was so great to give that "they begged with much begging to be able to keep doing it." That is how the Greek reads.

With that said , it's an easy step to say every called out one who thinks they have received the Spirit of Christ would have this same desire to give everything they have away. I was taught, you can't be a Christian if you don't want to give.

So with that foundation laid, does God require everything we possess, probably not. So how do we deal with this uncontrollable desire to give it all? well, that's where the Tithes come in. The tithes are not a begrudged obligation of something we must do every month, they are a governor, so we don't give away all we have. The tithes are a protection in a way, to acknowledge God and His teacher or representative.

The elephant in the room is if we in our spirit don't want to give at all, or give what we see fit.

There is an argument for those who knowing this still decide to give all, buts that would be on them.

J

 

[crossnote]

First we must remember, the NT is enfolded into the OT, and the OT unfolds into the NT.

I've always heard that the NT is hidden in the OT and the OT is revealed in the NT.
Perhaps it is saying the same thing?

Besides, what happens if a person decides not to tithe at all?

 

[faither]

I've always heard that the NT is hidden in the OT and the OT is revealed in the NT.
Perhaps it is saying the same thing?

Besides, what happens if a person decides not to tithe at all?

That explosive giving that comes out of one that just receives the Spirit of Christ is the important thing. That giving can be executed anywhere, as long as it's there. It really doesn't matter to me. If i was in under a pastor that practiced tithing, i would tithe. The hardest part of giving correctly is to do it in secret, like Gods word says.

The thing that scares me the most is that desire ever leaving. Because if it ever did i would think Christ has left. But over the last 38 years, He's proven to me with all my shortcomings, He's not going to leave easily.

Thanks for the reply crossnote.

 

[crossnote]

The thing that scares me the most is that desire ever leaving. Because if it ever did i would think Christ has left. But over the last 38 years, He's proven to me with all my shortcomings, He's not going to leave easily.

He promises to never leave us.

Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

 

[faither]

He promises to never leave us.

Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

What if we start to faithe into something else, then it would be us leaving Him.

J

 

[crossnote]

What if we start to faithe into something else, then it would be us leaving Him.

J

Then that wouldn't be faith, now would it?

 

[LearningToLetGo]

So with that foundation laid, does God require everything we possess, probably not.

God knows we have need of things to survive. It's not the "things" but our relationship to them and God that matters.

All things, including our very selves, are from God. God wants us to acknowledge this simple truth and not become attached to anything that comes between us and Him. Tithing becomes a form of sacrifice and reminds us this is God's first and ours second.

So write those checks! Pastor needs a new Mercedes.

 

[faither]

Then that wouldn't be faith, now would it?

We faithe 100s of times all day long. Acts , based upon beliefs, sustained by confidence.

The act of Faith that saves is the act, a continually surrendered life to him, based upon a belief, that he accepts the surrendered life, sustained by the confidence that he will keep and protect the surrendered life.

If we choose to surrender ourselves to something else, then the salvation journey stops, and the promises stop. not all at once. Nobody knows how long it takes to grieve the Spirit out.

J

 

[faither]

God knows we have need of things to survive. It's not the "things" but our relationship to them and God that matters.

All things, including our very selves, are from God. God wants us to acknowledge this simple truth and not become attached to anything that comes between us and Him. Tithing becomes a form of sacrifice and reminds us this is God's first and ours second.

So write those checks! Pastor needs a new Mercedes.

If a pastor needs a new Mercedes, they're probably are only pastors in name.

J

 

[crossnote]

The act of Faith that saves is the act, a continually surrendered life to him, based upon a belief, that he accepts the surrendered life, sustained by the confidence that he will keep and protect the surrendered life.

I don't believe our 'acts' saves us, rather Jesus' perfect obedience in His death and resurrection is what saves us. Faith simply trusts that revealed fact.
He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.
Otherwise, how much surrender must we do in order to be saved. I just don't believe in turning 'surrender' into a work that we do, thus denigrating Christ's perfect obedience in our stead.