Let us share our views. What harm can come about? Are there not threads that stretch past 100 pages?Ok guys... 4 pages in 1 day... are either of you closer to surrendering your position? No. So, why don't we end this thread now.
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Let us share our views. What harm can come about? Are there not threads that stretch past 100 pages?Ok guys... 4 pages in 1 day... are either of you closer to surrendering your position? No. So, why don't we end this thread now.
No problem.I also apologize for my previous comment. I realize it was not very friendly.
Right Butch!!
Now, if the issue was "All" our sins and we needed the Holy Spirit and process of renewing our mind to walk out our own salvation with fear and trembling, then accepting Jesus as Lord would start that process into making us a perfect man as we have lots of sins and wrong thinking even on the day we recieve Jesus.
Paul said babes in Christ are carnal. We say that scripture.
But..................
If there was just ONE sin that would get the unsaved in Hell, and all the other sins a person commited was not counted against them, then just accepting Jesus would be enough to recieve eternal life.
Joh 16:8-9 kjva 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Joh 3:16-18 kjva 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Mar 16:16 kjva He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
See Butch? The only sin a unsaved person can commit is not to believe Jesus is the Son of God, and is their saviour. A person just believing on Jesus and is baptised is saved. A person that does not believe on Jesus is not saved.
Just one sin.
1Jn 2:2 kjva And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
So every sin a person has commited, has been paid for. The only step now is to believe on the one who paid for them.
Just that belief on Him makes us a babe in Christ, needing milk.
2Co 5:17-19 kjva 17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
God has already reconciled the Whole World unto Himself, not counting sin against anyone. The ony sin the Holy Spirit is repoving people on is not believing on Jesus.
All they have to do, is go get their ticket by believing on Jesus to enter eternal life. That is it, nothing else is being counted against anyone.
Without that ticket though, the step to become in Christ and a babe in Christ. They get judged and go to hell when they die. All they need to do is accept that price paid.
Now there is lots of growth, and there is rewards for the faithful, there is a race to run.
All those things are a process. Some obey God fully, some half obey God and all the works are tried as by fire. If a mans works get burnt up, He is still saved but has nothing to show.
I hope this makes more sense.
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