PROSPERITY GOSPEL - WHAT IS IT??

The "Prosperity gospel" is also known as the “health and wealth gospel” or by its most popular brand, the “Word of Faith” movement and is a teaching that claims that God rewards increases in faith with increases in health and/or wealth. In short, this means that “health and wealth” are the automatic divine right of all Bible-believing Christians and may be procreated by faith as part of the package of salvation, since the Atonement of Christ includes not just the removal of sin, but also the removal of sickness and poverty.

Scary fact;
A 2006 Times poll found that 17 percent of American Christians identify explicitly with the movement, while 31 percent espouse the idea that “if you give your money to God God will bless you with more money.” A full 61 percent agree with the more general idea that “God wants people to be prosperous.”

What that says is that the level of BIBLICAL Knowledge and Spirituality in America is at an embarrassing level.

There are many reasons why this teaching is false but I will list only 5 errors of the Prosperity teaching here for you................

1. The Abrahamic covenant is a means to material entitlement.
2. Jesus’s atonement extends to the “sin” of material poverty.
3. Christians give in order to gain material compensation from God.
4. Faith is a self-generated spiritual force that leads to prosperity.
5. Prayer is a tool to force God to grant prosperity.

This teaching has its roots not in the Bible but in what is called "New Thought" which is OCCULTIC. a nineteenth-century spiritual movement popular with decidedly unorthodox thinkers like Ralph Waldo Emerson and William James. Practitioners of New Thought, not all of whom identified as Christian, generally held the divinity of the individual human being and the priority of mind over matter. In other words, if you could correctly channel your mental energy, you could harness its material results......or, NAME it and CLAIM IT!

Many well meaning Christians have fallen into this false teaching with the expectation and understanding that if you are faithful God owes you something.

Throughout the twentieth century, proponents of this particularly American blend of theology envisaged God as a kind of banker, dispensing money to the deserving, with Jesus as a model business executive. Both of these characterizations were, at times, literal fact: ......
In 1936, New Thought mystic and founder of the Unity Church Charles Fillmore rewrote Psalm 23 to read = “The Lord is my banker/my credit is good”.

In 1925, advertising executive Bruce Bowler wrote The Man Nobody Knows to argue that Jesus was the first great capitalist. The literal money quote reads..... “Some day ... someone will write a book about Jesus. Every businessman will read it and send it to his partners and his salesmen. For it will tell the story of the founder of modern business.”

Names of some well known "Prosperity Preachers" are.......

Kenneth Hagin. The father of the Prosperity movement.
Oral Roberts. At the height of his influence, Roberts oversaw a ministry that brought in $110 million in annual revenue.
Kenneth Copeland
T.D. Jakes
Jerry Savelle
Charles Capps
Jesse DuPlantis
Creflo Dollar
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
Joel Osten
Benny Hinn
Pat Robertson, and
Robert Tilton.

It should be noted that Kenneth Hagin openly denounced the Prosperity preaching done today before he died in 2003.

He wrote a brutally honest book to address his concerns. The Midas Touch was published in 2000.

The Prosperity Gospel Is Not Biblical And It's Not Real

“I believe that it is anti-Christian and unholy for any Christian to live with the object of accumulating wealth. You will say, “Are we not to strive all we can to get all the money we can?” You may do so. I cannot doubt but what, in so doing, you may do service to the cause of God. But what I said was that to live with the object of accumulating wealth is anti-Christian.”
Source - Tom Carted, ed., 2,200 Quotations from the Writings of Charles H. Spurgeon

What are your thoughts????????????
 
the charismatic movement has a lot excitement to it . it excites the flesh miracles i watched Rod Parsley Bark like a Dog years ago .

a service should be done decently and in order . if the H.S puts it on a person to shout do it. run aisles if its of God you will know it. i been in services you could sense the anointing before Church started . i am a bit cautious of the name it claim it. a person should be cautious of movements like this. i have been in them seen a lot of crazy things
 
What's wrong with wanting to be be prosperous?. Maybe you have a Nobel goal.

Everyone loves health and wants to be well .

Having Great Faith that one is/will be ultra wealthy should then drive you to become those things. If you lack the urge or drive to do the things that bring said states about, then I would say its not from Truth and your basically just deluding yourself. Haven't noticed the change around you yet? No problem, VR is here and you could always put on a headset programmed to cater for your billionaire fantasy and sky dive from your humble abode from your VR yacht in Virtual Hawaii . Go on, call Recall.

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But I agree the prosperity gospel is like one of those bargain branches of Christianity that promises things it can’t be sure you will get.
 
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What's wrong with wanting to be be prosperous?. Maybe you have a Nobel goal.

Everyone loves health and wants to be well .

Having Great Faith that one is/will be ultra wealthy should then drive you to become those things. If you lack the urge or drive to do the things that bring said states about, then I would say its not from Truth and your basically just deluding yourself. Haven't noticed the change around you yet? No problem, VR is here and you could always put on a headset programmed to cater for your billionaire fantasy and sky dive from your humble abode from your VR yacht in Virtual Hawaii . Go on, call Recall.

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But I agree the prosperity gospel is like one of those bargain branches of Christianity that promises things it can’t be sure you will get.

The problem is that nowhere does God promise to make Christians rich and healthy. Any teaching that claims that Jesus’ saving work includes giving us health and wealth in this life is a satanic deception. Note carefully that the New Testament doesn’t promise us physical health or prosperity in this life, in fact it promises the opposite.

One of the major signs of the Last Days is spiritual deception!

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
— 2 Timothy 4:3,4

Paul unequivocally stated that a generation will arise in the very last days that will reject age-tested truth in favor of teaching that is more in step with the times. According to the Holy Spirit, teachers will appear on the scene in a specific kairos (Specific) season to satisfy the hankerings of a generation that adheres to the world’s progressive approach. What these spiritual leaders teach will appeal to people’s emotions and intellect instead of to the deepest part of their being where actual transformation takes place. Because these teachers will speak what the crowds want to hear, they will enjoy great popularity among this audience of listeners.
 
The "Prosperity gospel" is also known as the “health and wealth gospel” or by its most popular brand, the “Word of Faith” movement and is a teaching that claims that God rewards increases in faith with increases in health and/or wealth. In short, this means that “health and wealth” are the automatic divine right of all Bible-believing Christians and may be procreated by faith as part of the package of salvation, since the Atonement of Christ includes not just the removal of sin, but also the removal of sickness and poverty.

Scary fact;
A 2006 Times poll found that 17 percent of American Christians identify explicitly with the movement, while 31 percent espouse the idea that “if you give your money to God God will bless you with more money.” A full 61 percent agree with the more general idea that “God wants people to be prosperous.”

What that says is that the level of BIBLICAL Knowledge and Spirituality in America is at an embarrassing level.

There are many reasons why this teaching is false but I will list only 5 errors of the Prosperity teaching here for you................

1. The Abrahamic covenant is a means to material entitlement.
2. Jesus’s atonement extends to the “sin” of material poverty.
3. Christians give in order to gain material compensation from God.
4. Faith is a self-generated spiritual force that leads to prosperity.
5. Prayer is a tool to force God to grant prosperity.

This teaching has its roots not in the Bible but in what is called "New Thought" which is OCCULTIC. a nineteenth-century spiritual movement popular with decidedly unorthodox thinkers like Ralph Waldo Emerson and William James. Practitioners of New Thought, not all of whom identified as Christian, generally held the divinity of the individual human being and the priority of mind over matter. In other words, if you could correctly channel your mental energy, you could harness its material results......or, NAME it and CLAIM IT!

Many well meaning Christians have fallen into this false teaching with the expectation and understanding that if you are faithful God owes you something.

Throughout the twentieth century, proponents of this particularly American blend of theology envisaged God as a kind of banker, dispensing money to the deserving, with Jesus as a model business executive. Both of these characterizations were, at times, literal fact: ......
In 1936, New Thought mystic and founder of the Unity Church Charles Fillmore rewrote Psalm 23 to read = “The Lord is my banker/my credit is good”.

In 1925, advertising executive Bruce Bowler wrote The Man Nobody Knows to argue that Jesus was the first great capitalist. The literal money quote reads..... “Some day ... someone will write a book about Jesus. Every businessman will read it and send it to his partners and his salesmen. For it will tell the story of the founder of modern business.”

Names of some well known "Prosperity Preachers" are.......

Kenneth Hagin. The father of the Prosperity movement.
Oral Roberts. At the height of his influence, Roberts oversaw a ministry that brought in $110 million in annual revenue.
Kenneth Copeland
T.D. Jakes
Jerry Savelle
Charles Capps
Jesse DuPlantis
Creflo Dollar
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
Joel Osten
Benny Hinn
Pat Robertson, and
Robert Tilton.

It should be noted that Kenneth Hagin openly denounced the Prosperity preaching done today before he died in 2003.

He wrote a brutally honest book to address his concerns. The Midas Touch was published in 2000.

The Prosperity Gospel Is Not Biblical And It's Not Real

“I believe that it is anti-Christian and unholy for any Christian to live with the object of accumulating wealth. You will say, “Are we not to strive all we can to get all the money we can?” You may do so. I cannot doubt but what, in so doing, you may do service to the cause of God. But what I said was that to live with the object of accumulating wealth is anti-Christian.”
Source - Tom Carted, ed., 2,200 Quotations from the Writings of Charles H. Spurgeon

What are your thoughts????????????
Amen! I totally agree! I didn't know where, when or how that prosperity movement started and I never heard of the health movement. None of that is biblical. This is why Christianity needs structure and order instead of just any person starting their own church and teaching what they think is true.
 
Jesus was not a wealthy man. He said foxes have holes and birds have nests but the son of man has nowhere to lay his head. He was in effect homeless during his ministry.
Amen! Exactly! He was never rich, He was born in a stable with animals. He lived a homeless life during his ministry and was considered a criminal. A lot of the apostles and people of the early church ended up in prison, and look how many saints were martyred. So that prosperity movement ideology is definitely opposite of what many Christians and saints experienced.
 
What's wrong with wanting to be be prosperous?. Maybe you have a Nobel goal.

Everyone loves health and wants to be well .

Having Great Faith that one is/will be ultra wealthy should then drive you to become those things. If you lack the urge or drive to do the things that bring said states about, then I would say its not from Truth and your basically just deluding yourself. Haven't noticed the change around you yet? No problem, VR is here and you could always put on a headset programmed to cater for your billionaire fantasy and sky dive from your humble abode from your VR yacht in Virtual Hawaii . Go on, call Recall.

Edit:
But I agree the prosperity gospel is like one of those bargain branches of Christianity that promises things it can’t be sure you will get.

Nothing wrong with wanting to prosper. The damage is when they equate prosperity with spiritual level. Like if you are a REAL Christian then you should be healthy and well off. Like only those lacking faith or spiritual truth, experience poverty or setbacks or health issues. It indirectly says if someone is sick or poor or has bad things happen, it's because they did something wrong or are not spiritual enough. That's dangerous ideology. 😯
 
Amen! I totally agree! I didn't know where, when or how that prosperity movement started and I never heard of the health movement. None of that is biblical. This is why Christianity needs structure and order instead of just any person starting their own church and teaching what they think is true.

Today is your day sister. I have been teaching this for many years now. Allow me to say to you that "The prosperity gospel" originated as an offshoot of Pentecostalism in post-World War II America. While it started in local congregations and in tent revivals, the movement gained a larger following through the use of radio and television, and became firmly entrenched in the 1980s with the rise of “televangelism.”

Norman Vincent Peal, W.E. Kenyon, A.A. Allen were involved but, Kenneth Hagin was considered the "Father" of this movement but the one who is really the one who brought it to popularity was Oral Roberts. His protégé and airplane piolet was Kenneth Copeland.

While not all prosperity gospel preachers are Pentecostal or charismatic are involved, the movement is still largely connected to revivalist and charismatic churches. This has made it easier for the movement to gain traction in Africa, South America, and other areas of the world where Pentecostalism is rapidly expanding due to its flare for excitement.
 
Nothing wrong with wanting to prosper. The damage is when they equate prosperity with spiritual level. Like if you are a REAL Christian then you should be healthy and well off. Like only those lacking faith or spiritual truth, experience poverty or setbacks or health issues. It indirectly says if someone is sick or poor or has bad things happen, it's because they did something wrong or are not spiritual enough. That's dangerous ideology. 😯

Correct! And there is nothing whatsoever wrong with a Christian having money or being rich.

The problem is rooted in the false teaching that God owes us something and if we have enough faith, He will heal us and give us riches.

That is nothing more than a COSMIC SANTA CLAUSE! It as just as YOU said, dangerous and false and leads to all kinds of problems.
 
Today is your day sister. I have been teaching this for many years now. Allow me to say to you that "The prosperity gospel" originated as an offshoot of Pentecostalism in post-World War II America. While it started in local congregations and in tent revivals, the movement gained a larger following through the use of radio and television, and became firmly entrenched in the 1980s with the rise of “televangelism.”

Norman Vincent Peal, W.E. Kenyon, A.A. Allen were involved but, Kenneth Hagin was considered the "Father" of this movement but the one who is really the one who brought it to popularity was Oral Roberts. His protégé and airplane piolet was Kenneth Copeland.

While not all prosperity gospel preachers are Pentecostal or charismatic are involved, the movement is still largely connected to revivalist and charismatic churches. This has made it easier for the movement to gain traction in Africa, South America, and other areas of the world where Pentecostalism is rapidly expanding due to its flare for excitement.
Thanks for explaining that! :)🙂🤗
 
To me, It didn’t seem that bad at first because even though I can’t stand the excitement in churches I just thought it was a biblical be heathy and wealthy. No one likes poverty and being ill.

The whole thread has made me think..

So what do we get to take to Heaven with us?

Nice thread thanks
 
To me, It didn’t seem that bad at first because even though I can’t stand the excitement in churches I just thought it was a biblical be heathy and wealthy. No one likes poverty and being ill.

The whole thread has made me think..

So what do we get to take to Heaven with us?

Nice thread thanks

You said..............
"The whole thread has made me think.".


THAT is what I DO! I try to educate !!!

You then asked.................
"So what do we get to take to Heaven with us?"


1. Our Character.
2. Our knowledge of the Scriptures
3. You will be able to take with you all the souls that you have won to Christ
4. Your thankfulness for all that Jesus has done for you
 
The "Prosperity gospel" is also known as the “health and wealth gospel” or by its most popular brand, the “Word of Faith” movement and is a teaching that claims that God rewards increases in faith with increases in health and/or wealth. In short, this means that “health and wealth” are the automatic divine right of all Bible-believing Christians and may be procreated by faith as part of the package of salvation, since the Atonement of Christ includes not just the removal of sin, but also the removal of sickness and poverty.

Scary fact;
A 2006 Times poll found that 17 percent of American Christians identify explicitly with the movement, while 31 percent espouse the idea that “if you give your money to God God will bless you with more money.” A full 61 percent agree with the more general idea that “God wants people to be prosperous.”

What that says is that the level of BIBLICAL Knowledge and Spirituality in America is at an embarrassing level.

There are many reasons why this teaching is false but I will list only 5 errors of the Prosperity teaching here for you................

1. The Abrahamic covenant is a means to material entitlement.
2. Jesus’s atonement extends to the “sin” of material poverty.
3. Christians give in order to gain material compensation from God.
4. Faith is a self-generated spiritual force that leads to prosperity.
5. Prayer is a tool to force God to grant prosperity.

This teaching has its roots not in the Bible but in what is called "New Thought" which is OCCULTIC. a nineteenth-century spiritual movement popular with decidedly unorthodox thinkers like Ralph Waldo Emerson and William James. Practitioners of New Thought, not all of whom identified as Christian, generally held the divinity of the individual human being and the priority of mind over matter. In other words, if you could correctly channel your mental energy, you could harness its material results......or, NAME it and CLAIM IT!

Many well meaning Christians have fallen into this false teaching with the expectation and understanding that if you are faithful God owes you something.

Throughout the twentieth century, proponents of this particularly American blend of theology envisaged God as a kind of banker, dispensing money to the deserving, with Jesus as a model business executive. Both of these characterizations were, at times, literal fact: ......
In 1936, New Thought mystic and founder of the Unity Church Charles Fillmore rewrote Psalm 23 to read = “The Lord is my banker/my credit is good”.

In 1925, advertising executive Bruce Bowler wrote The Man Nobody Knows to argue that Jesus was the first great capitalist. The literal money quote reads..... “Some day ... someone will write a book about Jesus. Every businessman will read it and send it to his partners and his salesmen. For it will tell the story of the founder of modern business.”

Names of some well known "Prosperity Preachers" are.......

Kenneth Hagin. The father of the Prosperity movement.
Oral Roberts. At the height of his influence, Roberts oversaw a ministry that brought in $110 million in annual revenue.
Kenneth Copeland
T.D. Jakes
Jerry Savelle
Charles Capps
Jesse DuPlantis
Creflo Dollar
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
Joel Osten
Benny Hinn
Pat Robertson, and
Robert Tilton.

It should be noted that Kenneth Hagin openly denounced the Prosperity preaching done today before he died in 2003.

He wrote a brutally honest book to address his concerns. The Midas Touch was published in 2000.

The Prosperity Gospel Is Not Biblical And It's Not Real

“I believe that it is anti-Christian and unholy for any Christian to live with the object of accumulating wealth. You will say, “Are we not to strive all we can to get all the money we can?” You may do so. I cannot doubt but what, in so doing, you may do service to the cause of God. But what I said was that to live with the object of accumulating wealth is anti-Christian.”
Source - Tom Carted, ed., 2,200 Quotations from the Writings of Charles H. Spurgeon

What are your thoughts????????????
You forgot the other name for that doctrine, pheaae actually.
God'll pay ya a lot to love him a lot.

I suggest anyone considering the WoF movement to search the names of the pastors that promote it. Once you have that list, [Hager,Osteen, White *drives a Rolls Royce) Hinn, Duplantis, Copeland (5 private jets) , etc...] , Google Images search their homes.

Amazing luxury.

Then consider this.

Jesus was/is the king of Heaven.

During his earthly ministry he was a Shepherd. He had no place to lay his head. And he and his apostles walked everywhere they went.
 
We all know who preached the 1st Prosperity gospel...
(hint)
Genesis 3:4 (KJV) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Genesis 3:5 (KJV)
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
 
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