Raising children in 2020s and 2030s

kdm1984

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Hi all! So I'm raising a young son in the 2020s and (God willing) 2030s.

I'm actually not intimidated at all by this!

Nonetheless, there are issues in the United States now that weren't issues when I was growing up.

I hear a lot now about sex/gender issues, that weren't things when I was a young person in the 1990s and 2000s.

Some of these include "toxic masculinity," or "gender nonconformism," or of course the LGBT movement.

When I was growing up, I don't think most Americans really gave a whole ton of thought to these things. Well, now we are aware, but we're probably OVERLY aware!

I grew up what was called a "tomboy" in my day. My parents though this was great! My mom loved sports, and was a businesswoman in the 1960s and 1970s back before that was commonplace. In the 1980s and 1990s, she gave that up (except her interest in sports) to have more children.

In the 1990s, I used to say things like, "I will grow up to be a boy." I wore clothes for boys. I liked sports. When I became a teenager, I realized I wouldn't be a boy, and that was ok. But I still liked boy clothes. I used to dress "androgynously," because I thought that style looked neat. I liked Annie Lennox's look. I also continued to like sports. But I also was attracted to the opposite sex, and I didn't harbor any thoughts about wanting to be a boy/male anymore.

I'm SO GLAD I grew up in the 1990s and 2000s when people didn't freak out over, or politicize, these things.

Nowadays, instead of being a "tomboy," I'd be labeled "gender nonconforming," and people would yell at my parents to try and "transition" me!

But I don't want to be a man. I don't even wear men's clothing anymore. But I still like sports. That doesn't make me a man, or a lesbian, or whatever else they try to push on people nowadays.

What does that all mean for my son?

So far, at 18 month old, my son seems pretty typical. He likes to throw things, is physical, likes wheels on toys, and seems pretty mechanical. I don't think he'll have gender issues.

I mentioned before that my husband isn't theistic. He's also rather leftist. And he has trans friends. But he's heterosexual, likes a lot of typically male things (especially computers and science, although I'm a woman and also like those things), and has no interest in "transitioning" himself. He wants to remain a man, and wants me to remain a woman, and we have no problems with our "birth sex."

Nonetheless, son will have to be made aware that there are people out there nowadays...who make big deals about these things. Children raised in the 2020s and 2030s have to contend with weird sex/gender stuff that "Elder Millennials" and "Generation X" like me and my husband, seldom heard about. Of course there's also the Internet everywhere...but my husband and I are good with the Internet. In our day, people worried about "MTV" and "rap music" and "television," but now everyone worries about the Internet. In my mom's day, and my dad's day, people worried about Elvis and the Beatles and "rock and roll" music. It's always something.

But I think we probably over-complicate these things...I do know that my son will have some different challenges from when I was growing up, but I think I'm prepared.

Do you think raising children in 2020s and 2030s will be much harder? I don't necessarily think so, but every generation has its own challenges, and I think I'm fairly prepared to deal with what's going on now so that I'm not timid or weak or fearful about the things going on. I know what to tell my son and how I plan on raising him.
 
Hello kdm1984;

In today's time I feel that we as a whole generation have become too sub-contextual in thought, expression, moral, gender, political, etc..and even talking Jesus. A Bible study can go every which way and we lose the main verb of the subject as a result of poor sub-context.

Sub-contextual is not bad, but if each connecting context is not understandably pieced together, the articulation loses it's quality while arriving at an unconcluding reason.

The continuing best efforts a believing family gives in their home maintaining the Christian foundation will have a positive impact in raising a child. It's brutal outside in many areas of the home. This is why what we take outside our community is to remain that sprinkle of salt for Christ.

We are set apart for God but we are also to co-exist in the world having an effective Commission.

God bless
you, kdm1984 and your family.
 
I think Luther put it nicely with...

"“If you now attempt, in this spiritual conflict, to protect yourself by the help of man without the Word of God, you simply enter upon the conflict with that mighty spirit, the devil, naked and unprotected. Such an endeavor would be worse than David against Goliath—without God’s supernatural power helping David. You may, therefore, if you so please, oppose your power to the might of the devil. It will then be very easily seen what an utterly unequal conflict it is, if one does not have at hand in the beginning the Word of God." (Luther, Commentary on Romans, pp. 179-180.)

In that light, besides the Gospel, I would deeply inscribe on his little noggin at an early age this passage...

Genesis 1:26-27
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." [27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
 
I don't know..harder than what.
I think parents need to work together to raise their children and also grandparents, aunties and uncles.

I do know it's much harder to raise a child alone (solo parents have hard time of it) or if you divorced. And also depending on how many children you might raise. I'm sure raising four or more is harder than one, depending on what you can afford.

If you know God and ask Him for help of course it will be easier..since He's our Father and knows us and has all the wisdom..in the OT parents would give their firstborn to God OR they would sacrifice a lamb to buy them back right? Well today we just need to dedicate them to Jesus and bless them and let them know Jesus already died for them to pay for their sin

There will always be gender issues come up from time to time I think back in olden days females were not treated as well as males and seen generally as worthless, so that has changed for the better IMHO.
 
Like learningtoletgo said, I think there will be issues in every generation, but it wont be any harder. I trust God to guide me when it comes to my children and grandchildren. I once panicked because I wondered how I would cope if my granddaughter was usurped by a different god or the rainbow groups. But getting sucked into fear is bad for your health. So God put a stop to that. I just use prayer time to ask God for what I need in order to guide her in the right direction.
 
Teaching your son the absolutes, from where reality originates, he will not ever be able to depart from it:

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it.

Many parents have laid claim to have raised up their children in the "way he should go," and yet, in reality, they left that to organized religion, Sunday schools, etc., rather than to drill deeply into them, at home, the bonds of truth and moral absolutes, and raising them to recognize falsehood when rearing its ugly head...it's an ongoing, never-ending battle in relation to the culture within which we all live.

Teaching children to think critically and how to apply that criticality to the barrage of evil and wickedness in the world around us, THAT is how they are equipped with the effective weapons of the warfare that will be brought to yours and their doorsteps.

This sampling of critical thinking is great to teach children as they are growing:

 
Thanks for the replies!

I'm not afraid of the hard topics; that's my strength. Many in the church have told me, I'm among the best they've ever seen among Christian women when it comes to logical philosophy, dealing with the challenging stuff. But I've also been told I'm weak with the more typical feminine traits, like kindness and empathy. I'm great at the stuff most women are terrible at, and terrible at the stuff most women are great at.

For further background context on my upbringing and family life, you might check up on my other threads.
 
Thanks for the replies!

I'm not afraid of the hard topics; that's my strength. Many in the church have told me, I'm among the best they've ever seen among Christian women when it comes to logical philosophy, dealing with the challenging stuff. But I've also been told I'm weak with the more typical feminine traits, like kindness and empathy. I'm great at the stuff most women are terrible at, and terrible at the stuff most women are great at.

For further background context on my upbringing and family life, you might check up on my other threads.
Well........IMHO, each era has it challenges.

When I was growing up we did not have a telephone. We just told a "woman" and the message got around. :ROFLMAO:
We did not have running water.
We did not have indoor bathrooms.
We did not have A/C or central heat.
We did not have a TV!

We adapt, learn, grow and change........as long as the change is within the parameters that God has established.

However, I think crossnote gave the right answer. Pound the Word of God into his head. Get him and you and your husband into a Bible teaching Christian church! Tomorrow!
 
Well........IMHO, each era has it challenges.

When I was growing up we did not have a telephone. We just told a "woman" and the message got around. :ROFLMAO:
We did not have running water.
We did not have indoor bathrooms.
We did not have A/C or central heat.
We did not have a TV!

We adapt, learn, grow and change........as long as the change is within the parameters that God has established.

However, I think crossnote gave the right answer. Pound the Word of God into his head. Get him and you and your husband into a Bible teaching Christian church! Tomorrow!
Were you born in the 1940s? I think that was the last era without TV. My mom was born in 1941 and told me about radio.

Son enjoys WELS church. Husband doesn't go, but I'm reminded of 1 Peter 3 that says wives don't win over husbands with words, but with conduct.
 
Were you born in the 1940s? I think that was the last era without TV. My mom was born in 1941 and told me about radio.

Son enjoys WELS church. Husband doesn't go, but I'm reminded of 1 Peter 3 that says wives don't win over husbands with words, but with conduct.
My KJV bible doesn't say that for this verse...is it wrong?
It actually says

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.

Chaste conversation? Isn't conversation...talking or dialogue? Communication using words? Not conduct.
 
My KJV bible doesn't say that for this verse...is it wrong?
It actually says

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.

Chaste conversation? Isn't conversation...talking or dialogue? Communication using words? Not conduct.
"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives,"


Conversation in the old KJV meant conduct.
 
Were you born in the 1940s? I think that was the last era without TV. My mom was born in 1941 and told me about radio.

Son enjoys WELS church. Husband doesn't go, but I'm reminded of 1 Peter 3 that says wives don't win over husbands with words, but with conduct.
Yes I was.

We did have a radio.

You are correct about winning your husband. Actions and conduct speak well for you.
 
My KJV bible doesn't say that for this verse...is it wrong? It actually says
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Chaste conversation? Isn't conversation...talking or dialogue? Communication using words? Not conduct.
"Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives,"
Conversation in the old KJV meant conduct.

Just a side note. In my study of Reading The Bible For All It's Worth by Gordon D. Fee and Douglas Stuart,

The author talks about the Old English language in the KJV and it's historical steps of English, and later contemporary American English in other translations can cause misinterpretation because of the Bible's synonymous or interchangeable words like subjection = submission, and conversation = conduct.

Many readers of the Bible can go for years of reading a word different than what it actually means. For example, when my wife needs to address an issue we don't say, "honey, let's have a conduct." lol!


It's important from time to time to cross reference your Bible reading as this will impact thy children if you are grounding them in Scripture.

God bless you both.



 
Just a side note. In my study of Reading The Bible For All It's Worth by Gordon D. Fee and Douglas Stuart,

The author talks about the Old English language in the KJV and it's historical steps of English, and later contemporary American English in other translations can cause misinterpretation because of the Bible's synonymous or interchangeable words like subjection = submission, and conversation = conduct.

Many readers of the Bible can go for years of reading a word different than what it actually means. For example, when my wife needs to address an issue we don't say, "honey, let's have a conduct." lol!


It's important from time to time to cross reference your Bible reading as this will impact thy children if you are grounding them in Scripture.

God bless you both.
Yep. I'd always read the passage as conduct, but when I was in an IFB church a few years ago (IFB requires KJV), the passage had the word 'conversation.' IFB churches are interesting in that they're conservative in the sense of KJV only, as well as being theologically conservative. They were surprised that, as a woman, I already knew that "conversation" in the KJV meant conduct. Most women read that assuming that they can use words to argue or emotionally convince their husbands through chatter. I knew that wasn't the case. I'm both an introvert and a thinker (INTP, not INFP, ENFJ, ESFJm etc(. Most women are extroverts and/or feelers. Extroverts (ESFJ etc) and feelers (INFP etc) often try to win people through talk, or at least conversation of some sort, as feelers are more relational (including the introverts). As an INTP, this isn't my strength. I can write a little bit, but I seldom talk. So when I was aware of this, they were surprised. Most of the women who read it thinks it means talk. It doesn't.
 
Yep. I'd always read the passage as conduct, but when I was in an IFB church a few years ago (IFB requires KJV), the passage had the word 'conversation.' IFB churches are interesting in that they're conservative in the sense of KJV only, as well as being theologically conservative. They were surprised that, as a woman, I already knew that "conversation" in the KJV meant conduct. Most women read that assuming that they can use words to argue or emotionally convince their husbands through chatter. I knew that wasn't the case. I'm both an introvert and a thinker (INTP, not INFP, ENFJ, ESFJm etc(. Most women are extroverts and/or feelers. Extroverts (ESFJ etc) and feelers (INFP etc) often try to win people through talk, or at least conversation of some sort, as feelers are more relational (including the introverts). As an INTP, this isn't my strength. I can write a little bit, but I seldom talk. So when I was aware of this, they were surprised. Most of the women who read it thinks it means talk. It doesn't.

Hello kdm1984;

Thank you for sharing who you are. These are the kinds of conversation I enjoy with brothers and sisters.

My wife and I are both extrovert, joiners, we get involved. We're also introverted during times when we are still, or not quick to speak in a public setting.


When we converse with each other she is a bottom line woman, keeps her words yes, yes, and no, no. I'm detailed and articulate when I talk and she complains that when she asks me a question I give her a 1000 word answer with yes, yes, yes, and yes, and no, no, no, and no.

In our 38 years of marriage we never read the Bible together except when we attend Bible studies. But in 2023 I'm blessed that she and I started reading the Bible every evening. We will discuss what God is saying to us in the Old and New Testaments.

We've always been opposites but when it comes down to a serious discussion, doing our marriage, home or Church project we do make mistakes along the way, but overall have managed well with God's results.

So where am I going with this? We have seen our disposition of who we are with our 28 and 24 year old nieces, 19 and 17 year old nephews and our 6 year old niece. We instill our Christian foundation as Aunt and Uncle without undermining their parents who are our in laws.

No doubt they will are already impacted in the 2020's and especially in the 2030's.

God bless you and your family.
 
What, so, I'm meant to behave and NOT speak graciously??
Or not say anything?

Hmm

Ok, should I even be on the forum? When I write things down, isn't that conversing? When we have a discussion, isn't that a conversation?
Or is it, I am not even meant to discuss the Bible with men (or husbands if I am married?) Is this why we have women's only groups lol
 
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