Revival Meeting of Healing or Not?

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Hello brothers and sisters;

About 20 years ago my wife and I experienced a spiritual and physical healing session of about 100 people. It was a nice gathering, meeting new people and existing friends, prayer and dinner. But when we got ready to listen to the preacher talk about healing, she shared some Scriptures, then had us form a line and give a word to each person.

When it was our turn I have to be honest, I didn't feel the prompting of the Holy Spirit while she gave me a revelation of my life, marriage or direction of ministry and physical being. But she spoke with a strong confidence in the Lord about what He was going to do.

I'd like to know your thoughts, whether you experienced a meeting of healing, be it in person, TV, or a large convention.

Please keep in mind, I'm not asking you this question, only to come back and correct you. I just want to receive your thoughts about revival healing. What is your conviction and belief?

I'll share more about my own approach to spiritual or physical healing later.

God bless you all and your families.
 
I have only ever been to one healing meeting. It was at the Bethshan Tabernacle.
My mother could hardly and was in terrible pain because of severe arthritis in her feet. She had been treated with cortisone injections but it didn't improve. It just got worse and worse.
The music was deafening to the point of unbearable. It didn't seem to have any tune.
When (at last) the noise stopped the healer spoke for a few minutes and said anyone who needed healing should go into the side room where the elders would speak to them. My mother couldn't make it there by herself, so I went with her.
We were told to write down what we were looking for healing. My mother wrote a few things down. Because I had gone on that room I had to write something down. So I wrote that I wanted to be closer to God.
Back in the main church we lined up for our turn. We saw a man that could hardly walk and he ran and leaped out of church praising God. I honestly felt at the time that everything was staged.
The woman before us walked to him and he told her to close her eyes. All of a sudden he jumped away from hrt. He shouted "don't touch me." Then he ordered her to put her hands on her head, which she did. He sent her out of the church. I still felt it was staged, bit not too sure.
After my mother it was my turn. I gave him my piece of paper and closed my eyes. A very strange thing happened. It was as if his Spirit was talking to mine. He said "who are you? " I didn't speak but it was as if my Spirit said "I am the daughter of God." It was all very weird. Then he spoke properly and prayed for me. I didn't feel any different. A girl in the church said to me "you were glowing."
My mother woke up the next day and walked without pain. She never had arthritis again.
 
There is a lot to unpack before someone like me can answer this question.

First, one must come to a definition of what a miracle is, and how it relates to the rest of what we know of God.

The way the universe works is an expression of the nature of God. If one defines a miracle as something other than the 'laws of nature', than as a Christian, I can only say NO, God will not do anything against His own nature.

That said, I am constantly amazed at what those who are examining His creation find and am loath to say something can't be within His providence.

Meditating on that word, "providence" and its relationship to "miracle", I have come to a differential kind of definition for both:

When we see how God provides or acts on our behalf, we call it "providence".

When we cannot fathom how something could have 'spontaneously' occured, we call it a "miracle".

The difference is in our knowledge and understanding, not in His activity.


The second thing that we must consider is manner in which that miraculous or providential healing occurs.

A miraculous healing is empowered by the faith of the healed (or close loved one). Some may take offense, but much of what occurs in faith healing services may be a placebo effect. That is not to say it is false, or not of God, just that one's healing was from within. Other healing requires physical effects. It happens.

Just as some preachers are better at motivating their congregants than others, some are better at engendering the kind of focused faith required for healing. But, some are charlatans.


Personally, I have seen answers to prayer that would fall in the extremely unlikely category. Do I call them miraculous? Actually, I do not make that distinction. I just rejoice.
 
Siloam said:
we must consider is manner in which that miraculous or providential healing occurs.
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MIARCLES happen in many different ways. i have known some who had places to be biopsied . when they went to do the procedure nothing there. no healing service just prayers we dont even realize when we might have escaped death . i am not a fan of calling a church service healing service. its best we anoint with oil lay hands on them and pray. by faith we pray. some are healed some go home with the LORD the ultimate healing
 
bobinfaith said:
Hello brothers and sisters;

About 20 years ago my wife and I experienced a spiritual and physical healing session of about 100 people. It was a nice gathering, meeting new people and existing friends, prayer and dinner. But when we got ready to listen to the preacher talk about healing, she shared some Scriptures, then had us form a line and give a word to each person.

When it was our turn I have to be honest, I didn't feel the prompting of the Holy Spirit while she gave me a revelation of my life, marriage or direction of ministry and physical being. But she spoke with a strong confidence in the Lord about what He was going to do.

I'd like to know your thoughts, whether you experienced a meeting of healing, be it in person, TV, or a large convention.

Please keep in mind, I'm not asking you this question, only to come back and correct you. I just want to receive your thoughts about revival healing. What is your conviction and belief?

I'll share more about my own approach to spiritual or physical healing later.

God bless you all and your families.
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Good question Bob. I am not sure that anyone will agree with me and I do not say what I am going to say to anger anyone at all.

We all like what we know and we are all reluctant to learn anything new because we all live in our own little comfort zones.

IMHO...what you experienced is part of the Word of Faith teaching that God has a Word of Faith for us. I do not accept that.
I am someone who believe that God has said what He wanted to say to us in His written Word. When we think that WE have a new Word of Knowledge from God, we have just placed ourselves in the same position as the Apostles and it was the ELEVEN who were given the SIGN GIFTS as seen in Mark 16:14..........
"Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen."

Then is we read 1 Corth 13:8-9 we something very important.........
"Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away."

The Temporary SIGN Gifts given only to the ELEVEN passed away when the Apostles all died. There mission as given to them was to spread the gospel all over the world and to write the Word of God in the Bible which they did.

When the Bible was canonized......those temporary sign gifts ended and then in 1 Corth. 13"10-11 we see........
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.".

The only two things I know of that are perfect and has come as stated in the Scriptures is JESUS and the WRITTEN WORD OF GOD.
 
bobinfaith said:
Hello brothers and sisters;

About 20 years ago my wife and I experienced a spiritual and physical healing session of about 100 people. It was a nice gathering, meeting new people and existing friends, prayer and dinner. But when we got ready to listen to the preacher talk about healing, she shared some Scriptures, then had us form a line and give a word to each person.

When it was our turn I have to be honest, I didn't feel the prompting of the Holy Spirit while she gave me a revelation of my life, marriage or direction of ministry and physical being. But she spoke with a strong confidence in the Lord about what He was going to do.

I'd like to know your thoughts, whether you experienced a meeting of healing, be it in person, TV, or a large convention.

Please keep in mind, I'm not asking you this question, only to come back and correct you. I just want to receive your thoughts about revival healing. What is your conviction and belief?

I'll share more about my own approach to spiritual or physical healing later.

God bless you all and your families.
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Now that was for a Word of Knowledge.

As for physical healing.......there are NO/NONE/ZERO Scriptures that say Physical Healing is included in the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now does God heal.........Absolutely YES!

James 5:14- 16 tells us how..............
"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the LORD: 15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the LORD shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

God heals....always and completely but never because a MAN stands and blows on someone, or hits them in the head and NEVER EVER when a man says..........."AND MAKE SURE YOU SEND YOUR LOVE OFFERIN TO........"
 
Major said:
Now that was for a Word of Knowledge.

As for physical healing.......there are NO/NONE/ZERO Scriptures that say Physical Healing is included in the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now does God heal.........Absolutely YES!

James 5:14- 16 tells us how..............
"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the LORD: 15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the LORD shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

God heals....always and completely but never because a MAN stands and blows on someone, or hits them in the head and NEVER EVER when a man says..........."AND MAKE SURE YOU SEND YOUR LOVE OFFERIN TO........"
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Hello Major
I can't let that one go..
That physical healing being part of the atonement.
Let me ask you, why do we have physical aliments in the first place?
Then the cause has to be addressed before things can proceed.
Surely that is plain enough.
Redemption is what scripture is all about - and I understand you are a believer in a rapture - how would you then fit that into what you said?
 
Major said:
As for physical healing.......there are NO/NONE/ZERO Scriptures that say Physical Healing is included in the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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psalm 103
1 Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
 
I have been to several different healing meetings. I'll come back to this post later. As different things happened at each.
 
Thank you, everyone, for your very good posts and after reading I feel healing comes in all forms from God.

In my experience, divine healing is the belief that God heals people through the prompting and power of the Holy Spirit. This practice is often exercised by the laying of hands and fervent prayer.

1 Corinthians 12:28, 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. - ESV

The healing ministry of Jesus interceded the laying of His and His disciple's hands while praying for healing.

Luke 4:40, 40 Now when the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to him, and he laid his hands on every one of them and healed them. - ESV

I remember when I was 5 years old I suffered from hallucinations from my medication for asthma. It lasted about a week and it was pretty terrifying for a small child. My Mom laid in bed with me, held me and prayed. I don't remember falling asleep and in the morning I woke up and was completely healed. 8 years later I was completely healed from asthma.

Why I can remember this as a young boy and teen is beyond me.

As a grown up, during times of spiritual or physical illness, I have always gone straight to God, got down on my knees and prayed for His healing for others and myself. I don't have the spiritual gift of healing, nor the ability to heal anyone instantly;

I have witnessed other's healing when I have laid hands on and prayed for, kidney and liver failure, cancer, drug and substance abuse, marital disasters and other instances, all in God's time.

Should there be a time in my frail life that I need a divine healing or hands laid on me during severe illness, I'm open to the Great Healing of God, His Word and my personal faith.

This has been my experience. The need for healing is serious and can be complicated, but the process of the Scriptures, prayer, faith and the Father's glory revealed works!

Let me now share from another angle. We believers find it heartbreaking when we pray, lay hands and ask for God's healing yet our loved one goes to be with the Lord. We then ask God, why? This person who walked with Jesus had so much to offer and opportunities of years to serve.

As a saved believer and in my personal conviction, it's not that God failed to heal, but perhaps it is God's Will for this loved one to only have a lifespan of God's choosing, then God decides when it's time for each of us to come home to Him for all eternity.

Your thoughts?
 
First healing meeting I went to was a bit of a sham, it was a line up and get knocked back affair.

Second healing meeting I went to I was given a word of knowledge I suppose it was, by someone who had been healed of deafness. It was that God loved me though he might have told that to everyone, however, I probably needed at the time because nobody ever told me that before.

Third healing meeting I went up and the preacher said I needed inner healing and he couldn't pray otherwise for me. He only dealt with physical ailments like broken bones and suchlike.

Fourth healing meeting I went to, I got up the courage to tell the minister and wife what my problem exactly was, as I couldn't expect them to guess. So I said I suffer from bipolar disorder, can I be healed. They prayed for me and laid hands on the spot, and, I don't know that the next day I felt better, because bipolar disorder is one of those tricky things that you never know if you well or not, as you can't SEE it but after I saw them I didn't need to go back to the doctor and had not needed meds ever since and that was over 10 years ago now. Praise the Lord!
 
I agree that we must have faith for healing, for what is the point of asking if we don't believe God will help us. There are times though we may not be healed for other reasons which are always for our good. We must believe that too. Whether it be a testing time, like Job had or any reason.
Then rest with the knowledge that it is God's will for a good reason.
 
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Hello Major
I can't let that one go..
That physical healing being part of the atonement.
Let me ask you, why do we have physical aliments in the first place?
Then the cause has to be addressed before things can proceed.
Surely that is plain enough.
Redemption is what scripture is all about - and I understand you are a believer in a rapture - how would you then fit that into what you said?
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There is NOT ONE Scripture that says physical healing is included in the Atonement. I would encourage you to post one!

Redemption is about the salvation of the soul/spirit. The body dies and turn to dust to then be "Resurrected on the Rapture day.

THAT DAY is when physical healing takes place, not today.

We have physical pain, suffering and death because Eve ate the fruit bringing the Judgment of God on all of us. THAT is why we needed a Messiah.

The healings seen in the New Test. by Christ were to validate His message that He can to seek and save the lost and that His gospel would HEAL thier sins and trangressions.
 
Major said:
There is NOT ONE Scripture that says physical healing is included in the Atonement. I would encourage you to post one!

Redemption is about the salvation of the soul/spirit. The body dies and turn to dust to then be "Resurrected on the Rapture day.

THAT DAY is when physical healing takes place, not today.

We have physical pain, suffering and death because Eve ate the fruit bringing the Judgment of God on all of us. THAT is why we needed a Messiah.

The healings seen in the New Test. by Christ were to validate His message that He can to seek and save the lost and that His gospel would HEAL thier sins and trangressions.
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i have to disagree every thing that we get in our physical BODY is due to the atonement. forgiveness of sins is the most important healing we can get,, but physical healing to our bodies can and does happen
 
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