If it walks like a duck and quakes like a duck, then it is a real good chance that it is the flesh!When it comes to God, there are too many trying to 'work' Him up through their own efforts, techniques, step-programs etc., and that applies to both old and young. Sounds like the flesh to me.
And I for blame YOU! You have always been a trouble maker!Hello brothers and sisters;
I was the one who initiated my comment on the tongues experience and I feel others only piggybacked their own experiences, the point was, all being false teaching. This one's on me.
I'm sure there are other teachings that were introduced to us in our ministry and as we have grown we know better what was taught may have been in error or what has remained inerrant in God's perfect Word.
people get wild ideas about the spirit. what some refuse to see we are given the spirit the moment we get saved. the rest is up to us to grow.Hey forgiven;
When I attended a men's retreat almost 30 years ago about 3 pastors gathered around me and put their hands on my stomach. I didn't know any better. They were going to pray and induce the Holy Spirit to come up and out of my mouth so I could develop tongues. Seriously?
Lesson. Don't allow men to "false teach" me by laying hands on my stomach. Only my wife can touch me there. lol!
Hi! I'm 38, and my husband is 46. I find that the 35-50 age group is in a strange place, especially, since the 2020s. The older (50+) still think we're quite young, but the people under 35 think we're "Boomers"! -Boomers were the ones who tried to do too much rock/emotional music, because of growing up with Elvis and the Beatles. Supposedly it was the younger generation which was actually wanting to go back to the liturgy. My dad is a Baby Boomer, and admittedly, he likes the more emotive type of worship. I like the liturgy. -the very vocal Millennials thought the Boomers were actually the ones who were too "tolerant." They wanted to take over the leadership and oust older members. I had some very bad experiences with LCMS especially, in the under-35 crowd. The Internet communities thought I was much too old, and not worth respect, because they thought the "Boomers" had ruined everything. I thankfully haven't dealt with this kind of thing at WELS.
My dad is a boomer and thinks any music after 1964 is not worth hearing. Baby boomers were babies born after 1945 (World War 2) when everyone was encouraged to reproduce after everyone had died. My dad was born 1947 and grew up in the 50s. He had the benefits of welfare state that promised to look after that generation from 'cradle to grave' but those benefits stopped around 1964 mark. I am not sure what exactly happened in 1964 but that may have been when JFK was assassinated birth control pills were introduced and then the hippies took over. it wasn't big in NZ but because american music oversaturated the market those young people grew up hearing it all the time. And they collect all the vinyl and got that message. Teenagers were the biggest group and they had the power to change the world. However he didn't become a hippie and got married 1974 when land and houses were still available so that was one thing. And he had a steady job until he was made redundant. Land supply and decent houses and steady work determine a lot of quality of life for many. I don't know if this is relevant because my parents are not christians and so were not part of any church.
I feel young believers now are needing to tell the gospel to older people who aren't believers. (Often falling on deaf ears) I've been in churches where it seemed my faith was more mature than the people that were much older and they hadn't even been baptised. It's kind of strange. At some retirement villages a LOT of people are not christians. But then at others it seems the entire church is there. Older believers like to go to cafes and chat or play bowls. They don't really do anything strenuous. It's actually kind of boring. Young believers can't sit in cafes over endless cups of coffee and a scone, they want to be out doing stuff, planting trees, painting murals, dancing, marching, or making tiktok videos . Climbing mountains or rescuing animals. They have study and they have work to get on with.
I read that parents should limit toddlers to an hour of screen time a day. My 18 month old gets 1 hour of Super Simple Songs. All the rest of his waking hours, he's dealing with real world physical things...which lately is mostly his Lego Duplo toys, lolWell now youth are all into video games on their devices its become a real problem as they can be quite addictive.
I remember introducing knucklebones in one library and the teacher was delighted to be able to teach her children how to play.
Same with chess, (real chess, not computer chess) but as you know...I got fired for doing that by the Primary Principal. :-( She actually wanted them on devices and wasn't concerned they would be having too much screen time. She taught technology.
The children actually really wanted to learn chess using real chess pieces and boards. They asked for the chess boards. It wasn't me forcing anyone to play chess.
My daughter, when she was 16 used to point out that the hymns of the 1800's sounded like camp fire/ marching hymns, she preferred the 1600 & 1700 songs.You should be able to sing a hymn marching down the street and everyone knows the words and actions. It should be totally unplugged
lolMy daughter, when she was 16 used to point out that the hymns of the 1800's sounded like camp fire/ marching hymns, she preferred the 1600 & 1700 songs.
I suppose TV became the new campfire and I guess Kumbaya would qualify as a 'spiritual' song...Kumbaya is a bit of a classic though. Everyone knows that one don't they? Except after electricity came in, people weren't sitting round camp fires anymore.