__________________________________________________________________I don't mean to be ignoring your questions.
7" And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him" (Revelations 12:7-12)
So, does this say that satan was cast out of heaven when he committed: or because satan tried to regain the place from where he was cast?