Isn't Iraq practically run by Iran?
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Yes, for the USA put in a Shi-ite leader (Iran`s majority) over a Sunni population. Not a good mix. However, when God deals with Iran, (Persia) with the Russian Federation soon, then most of Islam will be Sunni and ready for their great leader to arise.Isn't Iraq practically run by Iran?
Literal.Is that literal or spiritual salt water? (tongue in cheek)
Yes.Isn't Iraq practically run by Iran?
That is called by Muslims as the........"Mahdi".Yes, for the USA put in a Shi-ite leader (Iran`s majority) over a Sunni population. Not a good mix. However, when God deals with Iran, (Persia) with the Russian Federation soon, then most of Islam will be Sunni and ready for their great leader to arise.
Hello Major;
In Revelation 14, 16, 17 and 18, John's prophecy is referring to Rome and enemy nations of God with the "oppressive attitude of Babylon" but not literally. It is my understanding John was careful not to directly refer to Romans in his writing who were the enemy of the Jews.
God bless you, brother.
That's a ton of bricks. I guess earthquakes are rare in Babylon/Iraq?
Hmmm..........Zechariah 5:11 and Isaiah 13 talk of prophecies against Babylon ever existing again.
But Revelation 14:8, 16:19, and chapters 17-18 talk about the fall of Babylon in the End Times.
So then, is the prophecy of Babylon n the Revelation literal or spiritual seems to be the question.
It seems the literal city of Babylon will again exist in the land of Shinar for these prophecies to take place. The remains of ancient Babylon are found in present-day Iraq about 55 miles south of Baghdad.
I read somewhere that salt water intrusion is causing the brick mortar to disintegrate.???
Hello Musicmaster;
Thank you for following up with The Rising of Babylon. In your previous post, "So, the question remains...what event in the past can be pointed at as an event of God's destructive judgement of Babylon? That question is legitimized on the basis of the fact that they are indeed using the ancient stones of the ancient structures to rebuild new structures in Babylon right now. It's highly likely that the bemoaning of the fall of Babylon by the world will be in reference to both spiritual and physical Babylon."
I'm holding on to God's Word in Jeremiah 25:12 as the point of the past making Babylon desolate forever. If the Iraqi government and archaeologists are taking ancient stones to rebuild Babylon for the purpose of a monument attraction or political then I can see that.
It's my understanding Missler did acknowledge the rumors of plagiarism, he apologized and attempted to make it right regarding his books that were distributed. We may see the Missler issue differently, Musicmaster, but the bigger picture is this;
If there is a consolation to God's Word in today's times regarding the future of Babylon resurfacing, then that will be valuable information to all of us.
I will confess I don't understand the value of a governmental Iraq attempting to rebuild ancient or rebirth Babylon over the last 50 years, except for historical monument attraction and politics. Almost 100% of Iraq is not of the Christian faith, but of Muslim, Kurds, mixes of Mandean belief intertwined with conflict daily. How could this set of beliefs be ordained to receive a vision from God and establish prophecy for the future?
With all the other devastation going on today, China's threat to Taiwan, Russian conflict in Ukraine and the horrific fighting in Israel, Gaza and it's surrounding neighbors, these happenings are unfolding which is why the Scriptures reveal God's love and redemptive plan, the most important one by sending Jesus to us at the time revealed by prophecy then and the future.
Respectfully, MM, I do appreciate you sharing this topic which gives us all a lot to think about.
God bless you, brother, and your ministry.
It's both spiritual and literal. For the earth to bemoan the fall of Babylon, that is the physical, which is yet to happen. Babylon was never destroyed in the past. It only fell into ruins due to abandonment from the economic collapse after that empire came to an end.
MM
Missler's explanation seems plausible as to why that city is being rebuilt, and will eventually be destroyed for the first time in all its history, which is yet future to us now, and at what point that prophecy will be fulfilled.
MM
Hello Musicmaster;
I respect your support for Missler, thus your reason for posting his video. I also respect your understanding as Babylon never destroyed.
I'm happy The Rising of Babylon has stimulated interest and discussion in this topic.
God bless you, brother, and your entire family.
For example, I disagree with Major that he just won the Mister Universe Pageant...
Read Jeremiah 51 and compare it to Revelation 18. I think these may be the same event.
Thanks, Bob. Just so you know, I'm not a fan of any one teacher out there. Those who have a deep, abiding love for the word of God have my support for those things that find support within the texts of scripture, but I also disagree with all of them on some points at various places throughout. I don't think any of us here agree with all the others here on every point, so it's not remarkable that we all have various disagreements with others outside this circle.
For example, I disagree with Major that he just won the Mister Universe Pageant...
(snicker, snicker)
Is that what they call "Hit-n-run?"
MM
Being near the end of the great tribulation I don't think anyone would have time to even try to rebuild it.
There are actually two manifestations of Babylon, one religious and one commercial or material.Read Jeremiah 51 and compare it to Revelation 18. I think these may be the same event.