Where did the water come from??????

#61
Lets examine these verses:


This was God's initial act of creation. Notice He created the heavens and the earth. IMO what He created here was the framework.


And in this verse, God describes the condition of the earth before He began His creative work in the following verses. Note the Spirit is hovering while awaiting orders to carry out God's commands.

To answer your question, the water is part of the basic framework which God is about to use.

BTW, I also do not believe in evolution.
There was something done on YouTube about this actually, I need to find it again and link it in here, but I believe it was by Rob Skiba. Anyway, he looked into one of the extrabiblicar scriptures and anayalized the anicient re
Genesis 1:1-2
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

I do this in order to provoke and stimulate your thinking and your conversation and not in anyway to argue with anyone. First and foremost I am Creationist. IMO, evolution is the silliest explanation ever devised to explain why we are here..........again, IMO.

However there is a quandary. Here it is..........
When we take the chronological record of the Scriptures and go backwards to Adam and Eve we come to just about 6000 years of recorded time for humanity and life.

Now then. When you speak with people and you are sharing the good news of Jesus Christ, how do you answer their question of............
"Since recorded time is 6ooo years old, how do you explain the presence of animal and human bones and artifacts that are dated 1 million or a billion years ago??? "

Now before you post your answer, look again at the verse posted to begin this thread in verse #2.
"And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

Before
day one and before any creation activity, there was water on the earth.
Shouldn't water be one of the thing God created?
So then because it is not said to be that way.........Where did the water come from?????

Many years ago, several Biblical scholars came up with a theology called the "Gap Theory" to answer this paradox. It says that there was a creation before Genesis 1:1 and the water seen in verse two is from the judgment on that life which was tainted by Satan. The animals and dinosaurs we are finding now was from that 1st creation.

Then in Genesis 1:1, 6000 years ago is the 7 day 24 hour a day creation we now live in.

What are your thoughts????

Now remember........I am not supporting this "Gap Theory" just asking you for your thoughts.

Where did the water come from????
Brother, I think you could benefit from the invesigavtive journalist, Tim Alberino, hyperlinked here:
There are two following videos that you can help relate to as well. I find videos more easier to do my research in.
 
#62
What is a nieghbour? if not some one of another house and of another father?
What then is a brother? Then one of the same house and same father .

How "close" we will be to who we knew on earth will be in the same measure we were "close "to them spiritually on earth .
Geographical proximity does not always reflect spiritual proximity .
In Christ
gerald
I guess you have a point, dadgummed if I know what it is but I am glad you have one brother.

Gerald.......you have a habit of interjecting words and thoughts that were never said. I did not same anything about neighbors in heaven or geographical locations of friends.

I specifically said in #54...............
"Very true. I think the real teaching here from the Lord is that when we get to heaven there will not be a need to continue the human race by means of birth. We will I think be very close to our husband/wife and can be together but we will not have to be."

How you got your comment from that is way beyond me!

But hey, thanks for the interaction!
 
#63
There was something done on YouTube about this actually, I need to find it again and link it in here, but I believe it was by Rob Skiba. Anyway, he looked into one of the extrabiblicar scriptures and anayalized the anicient re

Brother, I think you could benefit from the invesigavtive journalist, Tim Alberino, hyperlinked here:
There are two following videos that you can help relate to as well. I find videos more easier to do my research in.
Thanks brother, I will follow up a little later.
 
#64
Hello there, Major,

I have heard a great deal of speculation surrounding Genesis 1:1,2. I have listened to the evidence provided, regarding the wording of verse two, and read the Scriptural comparisons that have been given to support the opinion that the earth 'became' without form and void, that it was not created that way, etc., That the words translated 'without form and void' are used elsewhere in Scripture only within the context of judgement (Jere.4:23), which would imply that a judgement of God took place which produced the conditions of verse two, and that the creative process described in the verses subsequently, were part of a redemptive purpose.

All of that may be so, but I would not enter into debate about it, or speculate concerning it.

@Abdicate and @Ravindran have spoken about the waters 'below' and 'above' the firmament called, 'heaven', which God created, my thoughts are there too, Praise God! I shall watch the progress of this thread with interest.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Don't forget the ancient Hebrew word "Hayah" which is translated as "was" but is also translated as "became" The prophet Jeremiah backs up the revised Genesis 1:2 verse consistent with the Gap Theory, and he also speaks about seeing the Earth, in a vision, after a colossal judgment was done, in which God recreates creation.
 
#65
No sir, I did not forget and I never suggest anything, but I did however read the Scripture in question.

Matthew 22:30
"For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. "

Jesus told us that we, resurrected believers will like the angels in heaven.
Then angels are not asexual. but spiritual beings and while we will have a body " the rememption yet to be revealed") it mwill be like unto his glorious body .
Not of flesh and blood but of "flesh and bone "

in Christ
gerald
 
#66
Then angels are not asexual. but spiritual beings and while we will have a body " the rememption yet to be revealed") it mwill be like unto his glorious body .
Not of flesh and blood but of "flesh and bone "

in Christ
gerald
Angels are created absent of sexuality. There is no reason for it...which is why we will be like them---in that respect. For human beings, procreation is only a human process and confined to earthly life.
 
#68
Don't forget the ancient Hebrew word "Hayah" which is translated as "was" but is also translated as "became" The prophet Jeremiah backs up the revised Genesis 1:2 verse consistent with the Gap Theory, and he also speaks about seeing the Earth, in a vision, after a colossal judgment was done, in which God recreates creation.
But the grammar of Hebrew does not support that theory.
 
#69
Genesis 1:1-2
However there is a quandary. Here it is..........
When we take the chronological record of the Scriptures and go backwards to Adam and Eve we come to just about 6000 years of recorded time for humanity and life.

"Since recorded time is 6ooo years old, how do you explain the presence of animal and human bones and artifacts that are dated 1 million or a billion years ago??? "

Now before you post your answer, look again at the verse posted to begin this thread in verse #2.
"And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

Before
day one and before any creation activity, there was water on the earth.
Shouldn't water be one of the thing God created?
So then because it is not said to be that way.........Where did the water come from?????
Where did the water come from????
in my opinion,
the creation process was probably in the order of
atoms
gas
liquid
solids
with the magnetic gravitational fields separating the liquid soup into stars and galaxies and planets
which then heated and cooled processing produced
a shell over water we call land.
 
#70
in my opinion,
the creation process was probably in the order of
atoms
gas
liquid
solids
with the magnetic gravitational fields separating the liquid soup into stars and galaxies and planets
which then heated and cooled processing produced
a shell over water we call land.
But in the light of the order of Genesis or rather the re creation of the EARTH .
There is no process.
each part created by the command of God . In its order.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth .
it was the earth that was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
First the light
then the separation of earth from water .
then the separation of water above and below the firmament which was called heaven.
In fact it is the division of everything .
Even finally by the separation of man from God.( Not Gods will)
and Jews and gentiles

In the end all things will be gathered together IN Christ .

and when all things have been made subject to the Son then the Son will subject Himself to the Father .So that God will be all in all.,

in Christ
gerald
 
#71
But in the light of the order of Genesis or rather the re creation of the EARTH .
There is no process.
each part created by the command of God . In its order.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth .
it was the earth that was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
First the light
then the separation of earth from water .
then the separation of water above and below the firmament which was called heaven.
In fact it is the division of everything .
Even finally by the separation of man from God.( Not Gods will)
and Jews and gentiles

In the end all things will be gathered together IN Christ .

and when all things have been made subject to the Son then the Son will subject Himself to the Father .So that God will be all in all.,

in Christ
gerald
i'm going with cooking,
the universe was created then microwaved, with supermagnetism
so supermagnetism results in no light, I'm talking about the black holes on the sun which don't allow light,
and then it was cooled and light resulted,
but I don't have any science background i'm just making it up.