Which can support either premil with rapture as the Second Coming, or an A mil view with the eternal state now being then ushered in
Which branch of Dispy Theology are you currently part of now?
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YeshuaFan I have to read about A mil... because I dont understand. I'll be back 
Okay, I did a quick read...
Rapture >>> tribulation >>> 1000yr reign? Is this how the Scofield dispensation works?
If so...
Then the rapture isnt the 2nd coming but a separate event? And then after the tribulation... then Christ returns and starts His 1000yr reign?
And what happends after the 1000yrs?
Thank you for explaining. I am genuinely confused.
Okay, I did a quick read...
Rapture >>> tribulation >>> 1000yr reign? Is this how the Scofield dispensation works?
If so...
Then the rapture isnt the 2nd coming but a separate event? And then after the tribulation... then Christ returns and starts His 1000yr reign?
And what happends after the 1000yrs?
Thank you for explaining. I am genuinely confused.
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Rapture is topic number 8 on the list of subjects not permitted to be discussed. Just to let you know.
Uh oh! Okay. I always forget about that list.
Sorry about that, as thought that all doctrines are free to discuss as long as agreeing to do such in a respectful manner
Just to answer your inquiry and not to prologue the discussionYeshuaFan I have to read about A mil... because I dont understand. I'll be back
Okay, I did a quick read...
Rapture >>> tribulation >>> 1000yr reign? Is this how the Scofield dispensation works?
If so...
Then the rapture isnt the 2nd coming but a separate event? And then after the tribulation... then Christ returns and starts His 1000yr reign?
And what happends after the 1000yrs?
Thank you for explaining. I am genuinely confused.
Pretrib view is that the Rapture of the Church happens at very beginning 7 year tribulation period, then Second Coming, then 1000 Millinium
A Mil holds to just the Second Coming event next, then ushering in the eternal state
Forsaken? Are you sure?
Romans 11:1a NKJV
I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not!
Romans 11:20 NKJV
Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.
Romans 11:25 NKJV
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
Romans 11:28-29 NKJV
Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. [29] For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
i am a panmilliunest backed by what the Bible has to say theology
we can discuss any other subject but that even though it is Bible
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This much we know...
Matthew 24:36 BSB
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
1 Thessalonians 5:2 BSB
For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
Luke 12:40 NKJV
Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect."
i am more than aware its kindd of odd pentecostalism doctrine can be discussed exposed. yet rapture and few other things cant..
thats the KEY rest is just speculation
God still has been electing out of national Israel a faithful remnant and the nation shall be blessed at Second Coming
The truth about the Rapture is that the facts about it was written 2000 years ago. The Apostle Paul gave the details in 1 Corth.15 and 1 Thess. 4.
I would also remind you that a specific word does not have to be in the Bible to be a doctinal thesis. It would come under the heading of "Implied Truth".
The Trinity would fall under that classification as well as the Rapture.
I will be glad to help you in any Bible question or position you would like to ask about!
The Rapture and 2nd Coming are two separate events separated by 7 years. The Rapture takes place 1st then 7 years of Tribulation as told to us by Daniel and then the 2nd Coming of the Lord Jesus.
The Rapture removes the truely born again believers as the Tribulation is focused on Israel.
Agreed. Those who accept Jesus as their Messiah, will be saved as they then become part of the Church which will be removed.
Yes.......Christ comes at the end of the Tribulation Peroid which is the 2nd Coming and which is the start of the 1000 yr. rule of Christ.
It is true, to the best of my knowledge that Prior to 1830, no church taught the Pre-Tribulation Rapture in their creed, catechism or statement of faith.
However......that fact remains that it was right there in the Bible since Paul wrote about it 1 Corth.and 1 Thess.
We must remember that the doctrine and word Trinity is not in the Bible. From the very beginning of the church, Christians have understood the mystery of the Trinity, even before they began using the term Trinity.
Also, the doctine of "Salvation by Faith" was not taught or accepted by the church for 1600 years. It was only when the Bible was printed in 1611 and placed into the hands of the common man that it became the cry of the Reformation by Luther.
Again.....we must recall actual history and the simple fact that the Roman Catholic church did not want the common, average man to know what the Bible actually said. They wanted men to listen to and accept what the Pope and Bishops told the,. So in reality, it has only been about 350 years that men have READ the Bible and learned what it actually does say!
I read Daniel 9? I didn't see 7yrs ... I saw 70 weeks... 7 weeks and 62 weeks...
If dispensationalist believe in the literal Interpretation of the Bible... how and what kind of math is used to determine that indicates 7yrs?
Or was I in the wrong chapter.
Is there new testament references to 7yrs tribulation?