Who are the Remnant of God, Spiritual Israel at the End Times.

Hobie

Hobie

We see this in the Bible..

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

When the Jewish nation rejected the Messiah, the gospel was to go to the Gentiles and all who would believe in the name of Jesus would become the spiritual descendants of Abraham, or spiritual Israel.

Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The apostle Paul speaks of Christians as the "Israel of God", and a new understanding of those being spiritual Jews or of the "circumcision".
Galatians 6:16
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Philippians 3:3
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

The kingdom of God and the covenant promises associated with it were to be taken from the Jews and passed on to spiritual Israel or those who would permit Christ to transform them, to bring about "the fruits thereof", a change in their character, as we see in Matthew.
Matthew 21:43-44
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

This spiritual Israel was to be what God had intended, a "kingdom of priests, and an holy nation".

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

1 Peter 2:9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The "nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" or spiritual Israel is the inheritor of Gods covenant promises. Those who have accepted Christ have become the chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, what is the remnant of God at what is the end times.

Notice how it connects to the saints at the time of the thousand years of the Millennium in the heavenly kingdom.
Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

These saints are God's people, the 'chosen', the 'remnant', 'spiritual Israel', Gods royal priesthood of believers taken to heaven at the end.
 
Hobie said:
We see this in the Bible..

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

When the Jewish nation rejected the Messiah, the gospel was to go to the Gentiles and all who would believe in the name of Jesus would become the spiritual descendants of Abraham, or spiritual Israel.

Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The apostle Paul speaks of Christians as the "Israel of God", and a new understanding of those being spiritual Jews or of the "circumcision".
Galatians 6:16
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Philippians 3:3
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

The kingdom of God and the covenant promises associated with it were to be taken from the Jews and passed on to spiritual Israel or those who would permit Christ to transform them, to bring about "the fruits thereof", a change in their character, as we see in Matthew.
Matthew 21:43-44
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

This spiritual Israel was to be what God had intended, a "kingdom of priests, and an holy nation".

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

1 Peter 2:9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The "nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" or spiritual Israel is the inheritor of Gods covenant promises. Those who have accepted Christ have become the chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, what is the remnant of God at what is the end times.

Notice how it connects to the saints at the time of the thousand years of the Millennium in the heavenly kingdom.
Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

These saints are God's people, the 'chosen', the 'remnant', 'spiritual Israel', Gods royal priesthood of believers taken to heaven at the end.
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Those would be Jews in natioanl israel
 
Hobie said:
We see this in the Bible..

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

When the Jewish nation rejected the Messiah, the gospel was to go to the Gentiles and all who would believe in the name of Jesus would become the spiritual descendants of Abraham, or spiritual Israel.

Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The apostle Paul speaks of Christians as the "Israel of God", and a new understanding of those being spiritual Jews or of the "circumcision".
Galatians 6:16
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Philippians 3:3
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

The kingdom of God and the covenant promises associated with it were to be taken from the Jews and passed on to spiritual Israel or those who would permit Christ to transform them, to bring about "the fruits thereof", a change in their character, as we see in Matthew.
Matthew 21:43-44
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

This spiritual Israel was to be what God had intended, a "kingdom of priests, and an holy nation".

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

1 Peter 2:9
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The "nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" or spiritual Israel is the inheritor of Gods covenant promises. Those who have accepted Christ have become the chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, what is the remnant of God at what is the end times.

Notice how it connects to the saints at the time of the thousand years of the Millennium in the heavenly kingdom.
Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

These saints are God's people, the 'chosen', the 'remnant', 'spiritual Israel', Gods royal priesthood of believers taken to heaven at the end.
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Good grief. What I can say to your posts is that you have tenacity. It is totally misplaced, but it is real for you.

Your theolgy 7th Day Advantist theology is completly false but it does allow others to correct you and then for others to learn correctly and grow in knowledge.

The phrase you are using......" spiritual Israel" is used in two contexts.
#1. It is as a reference to the entire body of Christian believers, in distinction to the political or racial people of Israel.
#2. Spiritual Israel is also sometimes used to suggest concepts related to replacement theology, in which the promises directed toward Israel are now given to the Church, instead.

What YOU are doing is espousing the 7th Day Adventist false teaching of Replacement theology, which uses the concept of a “spiritual Israel” differently.

Replacement theology essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan and that the many promises God made to Israel are fulfilled in the Church instead—Old Testament prophecies are allegorized in order to make them applicable to the church.

The SDA Replacement theology that YOU are teaching presents many major theological problems, because Scripture says that God has not forgotten or changed His promises to Israel in Romans 11:1–2, 11, 23, 26, and 29. Foe your SDA false teaching to be acceptable, all of those Scriptures must be removed from the Bible.

YOUR 7th Day Advantest teaching promotes a “spiritual Israel,” in the sense that the Church is the focus of God’s prophetic promises for Israel, is not biblically valid neither is it Biblical.
 
Major said:
Good grief. What I can say to your posts is that you have tenacity. It is totally misplaced, but it is real for you.

Your theolgy 7th Day Advantist theology is completly false but it does allow others to correct you and then for others to learn correctly and grow in knowledge.

The phrase you are using......" spiritual Israel" is used in two contexts.
#1. It is as a reference to the entire body of Christian believers, in distinction to the political or racial people of Israel.
#2. Spiritual Israel is also sometimes used to suggest concepts related to replacement theology, in which the promises directed toward Israel are now given to the Church, instead.

What YOU are doing is espousing the 7th Day Adventist false teaching of Replacement theology, which uses the concept of a “spiritual Israel” differently.

Replacement theology essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan and that the many promises God made to Israel are fulfilled in the Church instead—Old Testament prophecies are allegorized in order to make them applicable to the church.

The SDA Replacement theology that YOU are teaching presents many major theological problems, because Scripture says that God has not forgotten or changed His promises to Israel in Romans 11:1–2, 11, 23, 26, and 29. Foe your SDA false teaching to be acceptable, all of those Scriptures must be removed from the Bible.

YOUR 7th Day Advantest teaching promotes a “spiritual Israel,” in the sense that the Church is the focus of God’s prophetic promises for Israel, is not biblically valid neither is it Biblical.
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Major, I fear we have stumbled upon a one-trick pony.
 
BibleLover said:
Major, I fear we have stumbled upon a one-trick pony.
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I agree.

Sometimes I yell at myself for the gift God gave me to ID those who would perpetrate the glorious gospel of the Lord Jesus.

Then when I do that, my wife walks up and slaps me on the top of the head.

However, because of that gift, Many years ago, (25) I produced a teaching guide of "How To Identify A Cult".
I was also part of a 3 man team that traveled the state holding seminars for SBC churches on the same topic.
 
Major said:
Good grief. What I can say to your posts is that you have tenacity. It is totally misplaced, but it is real for you.

Your theolgy 7th Day Advantist theology is completly false but it does allow others to correct you and then for others to learn correctly and grow in knowledge.

The phrase you are using......" spiritual Israel" is used in two contexts.
#1. It is as a reference to the entire body of Christian believers, in distinction to the political or racial people of Israel.
#2. Spiritual Israel is also sometimes used to suggest concepts related to replacement theology, in which the promises directed toward Israel are now given to the Church, instead.

What YOU are doing is espousing the 7th Day Adventist false teaching of Replacement theology, which uses the concept of a “spiritual Israel” differently.

Replacement theology essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan and that the many promises God made to Israel are fulfilled in the Church instead—Old Testament prophecies are allegorized in order to make them applicable to the church.

The SDA Replacement theology that YOU are teaching presents many major theological problems, because Scripture says that God has not forgotten or changed His promises to Israel in Romans 11:1–2, 11, 23, 26, and 29. Foe your SDA false teaching to be acceptable, all of those Scriptures must be removed from the Bible.

YOUR 7th Day Advantest teaching promotes a “spiritual Israel,” in the sense that the Church is the focus of God’s prophetic promises for Israel, is not biblically valid neither is it Biblical.
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They fail to see that is describing Satan attacking the one who gave birth to the Messiah, and that was Israel, not the Church!
Again, its their Ellen White projecting into prophecy Sda as the remnant last days true church period
 
Major said:
I agree.

Sometimes I yell at myself for the gift God gave me to ID those who would perpetrate the glorious gospel of the Lord Jesus.

Then when I do that, my wife walks up and slaps me on the top of the head.

However, because of that gift, Many years ago, (25) I produced a teaching guide of "How To Identify A Cult".
I was also part of a 3 man team that traveled the state holding seminars for SBC churches on the same topic.
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Common to all cults are traits of denial of the Trinity, extra biblcal books, and viewing founder a sa prophet or apostle, and seeing themselves as being the true church
 
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