I would love nothing better then to see Catholics and Protestants give each other a hug ..
To Jeff: I Thought This Was A ''friendly'' Christian Forum...?
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I would love nothing better then to see Catholics and Protestants give each other a hug ..
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That would be nice. The behavior to a large extent depends on the group. Half my family is Presbyterian, the folks down south are largely Baptist, my brother's family is Lutheran, we all get along just fine.
Pentecostals and some Evangelicals are another issue, they can't seem to be able to get past their overwhelming hatred of anyone who doesn't bow down to their version of reality.
Pentecostals and some Evangelicals are another issue, they can't seem to be able to get past their overwhelming hatred of anyone who doesn't bow down to their version of reality.
it's sad .. if you accept Jesus as your savior, then we all have the same Father, making us all brothers and sisters .. and IF you are hating on them, then you "do not know God whom you cannot see" ..
It's funny that you say that, but in my experience, outside of the Oneness Pentecostals, certain groups of Baptists have been the most stubborn about their beliefs being the only correct way to go. No offense intended as I tend to be quite comfortable in Baptist churches so long as I avoid certain topics. The main difference is the hatred I've witnessed. I've rarely seen the type of hatred that I've seen from certain portions of the Oneness Pentecostals in nearly any other group. I find that sad, because their view of God is only different from ours in the most technical of senses. I've never witnessed that type of hatred in any Baptist church that I've actually attended (weird false-Baptists like WBC excluded of course).
That's okay Magdalena, and it is a beautiful name... it is not Christ like to choke the willingness of searching for God in those that are beginning... we are all on the same journey to our goal of meeting our Lord and God in our eternal life. Understanding that this stay on earth is like a vacation away from home and that not all vacations are fulfilling nor of great joy, though also understand that as we journey to find Him we should enjoy our stay here on earth because after all being here is what we know for now and it is beautiful.
We are here to help you and thus you help us also ... like our Lord Jesus said, ask and you shall receive ... <><
You're a great person. I am open to anything that could expand my knowledge of god.
I am mixing a reply of yours that I remembered from another thread and this one and now I think I know what you are asking. Maybe I am wrong but are your wondering how could God be both the Father and Jesus God the Son, yet Jesus and God the Father are both God so the relationship to Mary is puzzling you. Is this what you are wondering about? Remember, Mary was a virgin after becoming pregnant from God. She called herself God's servant, not his wife. Mary having Jesus was holy and spiritual. It was in no way a physical union. This was not romantic or anything like that. Are you wondering if Jesus being God the Father and Jesus God the Son if they both created physical Jesus? God the Father and God the Son always were one, spiritually one for they are Spirit. The physical body of Jesus was just a body. It is the Spirit of Jesus in the body that made the body obey God unto death. God took on a physical body so that he could suffer and die for us to pay for our sins. Those who are resurrected are spiritual raised in spiritual bodies.
"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth" (John 4:24).
"So also is the resurrection of the dead: It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption.43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power.44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.45 And so it is written: “The first man Adam was made a living soul.” The last Adam was made a quickening Spirit.46 However that which is spiritual was not first, but that which is natural, and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second Man is the Lord from Heaven.48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy; and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption" (1 Corinthians 15:42-50).
Again, God is Spirit, but the Jesus, God the Son took on the physical body for us. Even we who are saved unite with God in His Spirit, but it is God who is in control of His Spirit, not us. We just submit to His Spirit.
That's is what I was asking. I'm sorry I am so confused lol.
I hope my reply answers you, but if not we can discuss it more. Be blessed.
Thank you. I understand. I just don't get how god can be Jesus while Jesus was still praying to god. I get that they are one but...how. I know you might think this is silly because it's so hard for me to grasp. I know you understand it I just can't lol
You are so awesome Olivia! Beautifully said.
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My mistake: I should have written most Christians would be catholics if God had not intervened...
But most people are deceived and indoctrinated by the psychology of repetition; not realizing that they have missed the road that leads to salvation: which is the Gospel. The Catholic Institution does not have the Gospel, but is full of idolatry.
To Mario Candelario:
Luke 18:9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and regarded others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, was praying thus, ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: thieves, rogues, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of all my income.’
Luke 18:9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and regarded others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, was praying thus, ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: thieves, rogues, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of all my income.’
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We're getting a little personal there, aren't we; you calling me a hypocrite? But that's all right.
Incidentally, my name is C-a-n-d-e-l-a-r--i-o M-a-r-i-o- V-i-l-l-a. Thank you.
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Hey, Peter: we had a nice fellowship for awhile there: you even gave me the right hand of fellowship. So now you are going to deny my friendship because of the circumcision? It's OK: I' just go and preach to the Gentiles: they will definitely hear His voice and obey.
I am going to answer this generally, then specifically. God as Spirit can be everywhere all the time because His Spirit has the ability to transcend all limitations. This is why God is all knowing and His Holy Spirit can be in every believer at the same time.
"The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good" (Proverbs 15:3).
"Where shall I go from your Spirit?Or where shall I flee from your presence?8 If I ascend to heaven, you are there!
If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!9 If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,10 even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me (Psalm 139:7-10).
Jesus said many times that he did God the Father's will, not his own.
"I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me" (John 5:30). Jesus and God the Father have perfect agreement on all things.
"Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. 20"For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will marvel.…" (John 5:19).
Jesus praying is His faith in God the father and His will and submission to that will and communication with the Father's will. Jesus had perfect faith that God's will is perfect holiness, perfect truth, perfect goodness, and perfect love so he was able to submit in every way to him perfectly because he had no doubt.
This also shows perfect harmony, because without doubt and with pure faith in that which is perfect God, perfect harmony as One exists. Both Jesus and God the Father are perfect holiness, perfect truth, perfect goodness, and perfect love.
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"I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just...
If Jesus can "do nothing" of his own initiative, how can he be God?
Are you saying that the BODY (flesh) of Jesus is God?
Just wondering.