Since God is all knowing...Why would he need a council? Why would he need a spirit to come forward with the idea and then say go and do it? I believe this is just figurative speech.
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we know 1st kings [is NOT] a lies because it's written TWICE in the Bible:
2nd Chronicles 18:
18 Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of ADONAI. I saw ADONAI sitting on His throne with the whole host of heaven standing on His right and on His left.
19 And ADONAI said: ‘Who will entice Ahab king of Israel to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ Then one said this and another said that,
20 until a spirit came forward and stood before ADONAI and said, ‘I will entice him.’ So ADONAI said to him, ‘How?’
21 He answered, ‘I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You will entice him and you will also succeed. Go and do so.’
22 So now, behold, ADONAI has put a lying spirit in the mouth of these prophets of yours and ADONAI has decreed disaster against you.”
and yet God chose to have it mentioned TWICE:
1st Kings and 2nd Chronicles.
nothing is figurative in the Old Testament. this is not a Parable we find in the Gospels.
written by the Prophet Jeremiah, date of Writing: The Book of 1 Kings was likely written around 560 B.C.
The book (2nd Chronicles) was written by Ezra in Jerusalem, Judah, Israel around 430 B.C.
so God had both Jeremiah and Ezra mention this Divine Council. So this cannot be figurative!
The book (2nd Chronicles) was written by Ezra in Jerusalem, Judah, Israel around 430 B.C.
so God had both Jeremiah and Ezra mention this Divine Council. So this cannot be figurative!
Cooper. What in the world are you saying?????
You just said that it was NOT God of the Bible who brought the children of Israel out of Egypt?
Exodus 3:11
But Moses said to God, “Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt?
Exodus 32:4
He took this from their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool and made it into a molten calf; and they said, “This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt.”
God did not tell them to make a golden calf.
Exodus 32:8
They have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them. They have made for themselves a molten calf, and have worshiped it and have sacrificed to it and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!’”
God DID tell them to place Cheribim on the sides of the Ark.
You are misreading, and I am turning in for the night. Just let it be said, the true God, the I AM, would never tell the Israelites to make graven images. It is even one of the Ten Commandments. They followed false Gods.
Were False Gods in the Bible Demons in Disguise?
There are many false gods mentioned in the Old Testament and some Bible Scholars believe they may have been demons in disguise.
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known
Be careful when discussing with me....for I know more than everything....I know thing that just ain't.....
Woops! The cat's out of the bag....everyone now knows that I know things that just ain't....like everyone here....
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And I say that it is impossible for Jesus to never have existed with the 'image of man' before He was born in the flesh. My testimony is The Word of God when Jesus met Abraham with that image of man per Genesis 18, and also when He was in His Messenger role as The Angel of The Lord.
If He has no image appearance as 'man', which God showed is His Own Heavenly Image He created Adam with, then that would mean God and His Son in the Heavenly are just vapor with NO form, which is actually an ancient eastern belief. It is even one of the ideas we are warned about in Daniel 11:38 about a false god of forces.
I certainly do. Try and find 1 John 5:7. The Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus are the only Greek manuscripts which omit the last 12 verses of the Book of Mark. In modern New Testament versions, the status quo is that those verses never existed, which is false. Those verses exist in the majority of all other Greek New Testament manuscripts, including Alexandrian manuscripts.
So those using a modern New Testament version are using a corrupt version translated from the liberal's Critical Text, which is ninety percent based on the fake Vaticanus (1475) and Sinaiticus (1840s).
Daniel Wallace, et al, are Liberals, and are against the Received Text used for Bibles prior to Wescott and Hort's new 1880's Greek translation from Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. And just the fact that you side with Wallace reveals you are on the side of the Critical text debate, i.e., those who are against the Received text that originated from the Church at Antioch.
And what you sound like is that you really do not believe the Genesis 1:26-27 Scripture as written. So when are you going to admit that?
Somehow, I think you 'well' know that Genesis 1:26-27 is speaking of BOTH mankind and the man Adam (eth'ha'aadam) per the Hebrew of that Scripture. And both examples of "man" there refer to God's Own outward likeness and appearance, even in the Heavenly!
Even in Isaiah 14, God refers to Lucifer as a 'man', and he certainly has never been born in the flesh.
Nope! The resurrection is not about a flesh body, and I know that's what you mean when you say "physical body".
Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 that the resurrection body type is to a "spiritual body".
1 Cor 15:44-50
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV
That idea is not written. It's a simple old false tradition of the Jews, just like their idea of 'soul sleep' also, wrongly thinking that the resurrection is about reincarnation of the flesh.
Your physical body idea is you adding... to the Scriptures, simply because you always... relate the term 'man' as always being a flesh body. And that essentially means by your type of thinking that you cannot understand just what the Heavenly is about. You will have to wait until you flesh is cast off to understand apparently.
We will not... have the exact same kind of body as Lord Jesus. His flesh body was transfigured to keep the marks of His crucifixion. Our flesh will not be transfigured. Either at death of our flesh body, or on the "last trump", our spiritual body will be manifest in the Heavenly. Like Apostle Paul showed in 1 Corinthians 15:44, flesh and blood cannot... inherit the kingdom of God. Might want to remember that verse because that is how it is.
Why do you keep MISQUOTING ME? I never said that angels have sex organs!
You are not reading what I said, it is obvious, why? Have I become your enemy?
There is NO SEX in the Heavenly realm, period.
But what the Genesis 6 and Jude 6-7 Scriptures shows they did ON EARTH is different, so let's keep the Scriptures straight. Matthew 22:30 has NOTHING to do with what the Genesis 6 and Jude 6-7 Scripture says those specific angels did with mating with flesh woman to produce the hybrid giant race.
I never said God had sexual organs! You are making up fibs now.
Trying to gang up on me are you??? I see you.
actually, 1 John 5:7 does appear in all 3 Codexes (Alexandrian-Vaticanus-Sinaiticus) but they all 3 read the same:
but it reads:
6 This is he that came through water and blood, Jesus Christ: not in the water only, but in the water and in the blood; and it is the Spirit that testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
7 For they that testify are three,
8 the Spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are one.
the Codexes were 1,000+ years before the KJV.
When was 1 John 5:7 added to the Bible? - Quora
https://www.quora.com › When-was-1-John-5-7-added-to...The text of 1 John 5:7 is not found in any Greek texts before the 12th century.
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so 1 John 5:7 is an ADD-ON, which is condemned by God in John's Book of Revelation.
Genesis 1:26-27 is proof of what I have said, that the outward appearance of 'man' (aadam and eth'ha'aadam in the Hebrew) point to God's Own outward likeness and appearance in the Heavenly. Thus the image of man is from God's Own Image, and was only associated with flesh when He formed Adam in His Garden per Genesis.
So where's other's Scripture proof against that Genesis Scripture, since they say the image of 'man' is about flesh only? I offer the challenge, and just saying so is not Scripture proof.
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