The Tribulation Calendar: (6) The Temple Desecration.

[rtm3039]

We are there brother.

I just went to Dunkin Donuts yesterday. They do not accept cash. They told me that this way, they can never lose any money (cash) if they are robbed.

Dunkin Donuts???? Man, I have not been in one of those in so many years. The cash thing must be local, as I looked at their www and they accept cash, credit, and debit.

Now our cafeteria at work is another thing. They stopped taking cash during COVID and never started again. In fact, you can't even go there and place an order in person. You have to go to their website, select what you want, pay via debit or credit, wait about 10 - 15 minutes, get in the elevator, to to the 7th floor, find your order on this long table they have in the hallway, get back in the elivator, go back to your floor, and eat it at your office.

They do have tables in the cafeteria, but not many people use them. Most people get 30 mins for lunch, so who has time for human interaction?

Personally, I don't carry cash at all. Well, kind of. I have to get cash to pay my barber and I usually have around $20.00 in $.1.00 bills in my glove compartment. There is this one homeless guy at the intersection of US1 and 184th Street that I give $1.00 almost every morning (or afternoon, if I miss him in the AM).

Ok, that's all I got. It's 6:35 am and I can no longer avoid the horror that I need to get in the jeep and drive to the office. So, the countdown to 3pm starts.

 

[In Awe of Him]

Personally, I don't carry cash at all. Well, kind of. I have to get cash to pay my barber and I usually have around $20.00 in $.1.00 bills in my glove compartment. There is this one homeless guy at the intersection of US1 and 184th Street that I give $1.00 almost every morning (or afternoon, if I miss him in the AM).

The day is coming... and I know it.... The day I can't use cash will be the day I cease to be able to exist and function.
Cash is the ONLY payment method I use.

 

[Dave F.]

You are on the right trail. Remember that the philosophy (false religion) `rides on the beast,` meaning it influences the Political.

So where does that philosophy come from? What organization first promoted it?

In reading your posts I see that you believe that Islam is the false religion of the A/C. The question is what does Islam have to do with the 7 hills that the harlot sits on? Also, how is Islam related to the 7 kings (5 are gone, 1 is, 1 has not yet come) the 1 that has not yet come is the A/C, Islam did not exist at the time that John wrote this so I don't see how the 1 that is could apply to Islam. Sorry if I am being a pain, I'm just trying to understand.

 

[Major]

In reading your posts I see that you believe that Islam is the false religion of the A/C. The question is what does Islam have to do with the 7 hills that the harlot sits on? Also, how is Islam related to the 7 kings (5 are gone, 1 is, 1 has not yet come) the 1 that has not yet come is the A/C, Islam did not exist at the time that John wrote this so I don't see how the 1 that is could apply to Islam. Sorry if I am being a pain, I'm just trying to understand.

Agreed...excellent post.

 

[Major]

So let`s look at the detail.

`So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that would come upon Babylon, all these words that are written against Babylon. And Jeremiah said to Saraiah, "When you arrive in Babylon and see it, and read all these words, then you shall say, "O LORD, you have spoken against this place to cut it off, so that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but it shall be desolate for ever."

Now it shall be, when you have finished reading this book, that you shall tie a stone to it and throw it out into the Euphrates. Then you shall say, "Thus Babylon shall sink and not rise from the catastrophe that I will bring upon her. And they shall be weary." Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.` (Jer. 51: 60 - 64)

We know that didn`t happen then for Darius the Mede received the kingdom and later Alexander the Great. However, we do know from God`s word when it will happen.

`Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged her! Then a mighty angel took a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found any more.` (Rev. 18: 20 & 21)

I read your good comments (36) and you just had to read the next two verse (Rev. 18: 20 & 21) to get our answer to when Babylon the city will be destroyed.
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Arent we saying the same thing here?

 

[Marilyn C]

Arent we saying the same thing here?

Hi Major,

I don`t think we are. You said - If the servants of Allah can managed to rebuild Babylon, these prophetic words are false, and God of Israel will be proven a false God.

Actually, it is the USA and the World`s Monuments and the UN that are rebuilding Babylon.

God`s word in Jer. 51: 63 & 64 tell us that Babylon`s destruction is future. The Lord reveals in Rev. 18: 21 (& Rev. 16: 19) that it is at the end of the tribulation that Babylon is destroyed.

 

[Marilyn C]

In reading your posts I see that you believe that Islam is the false religion of the A/C. The question is what does Islam have to do with the 7 hills that the harlot sits on? Also, how is Islam related to the 7 kings (5 are gone, 1 is, 1 has not yet come) the 1 that has not yet come is the A/C, Islam did not exist at the time that John wrote this so I don't see how the 1 that is could apply to Islam. Sorry if I am being a pain, I'm just trying to understand.

Hi Dave,

I don`t mind your questions. I can see how some of my comments would look like that to you.

Now the A/C actually doesn`t have a religion except `power.` (Dan. 11: 36 - 38).

I believe that Islam will Politically rule over the world with the ten kings. (Rev. 17: 16) As to saying that Islam did not exist in John`s time, well most of Revelation didn`t.

The Harlot sits on the beast, she influences the governments of the world. The world`s major forum is the G.20 and it has a rotation of 5 leaders every year. This is the `5 have fallen,` meaning those leaders are not ruling , and the 6th is in the first part of the trib, and the 7th is the A/C possessed by the 8th Satan.


Now back to the Harlot. You were on the right track with the Left`s ideology. This false religion is `Save the earth,` `Mother earth,` and has an `Earth Charter` at the headquarters of UNESCO. It has four pillars and sixteen principles. It`s moral values are - Respect, (all lifestyles etc) Tolerance, justice respect for nature - sustainable development, rule of law, etc and people must be ready to conform to changing rules and evolving duties.

Having rejected Biblical and moral absolutes, they are free to believe that the end they envision justifies any unconscionable means.

So, we can see these `moral values,` throughout our society and especially in branding on goods. Also, in the service trades and government departments these values must be adhered to.

 

[Major]

Hi Major,

I don`t think we are. You said - If the servants of Allah can managed to rebuild Babylon, these prophetic words are false, and God of Israel will be proven a false God.

Actually, it is the USA and the World`s Monuments and the UN that are rebuilding Babylon.

God`s word in Jer. 51: 63 & 64 tell us that Babylon`s destruction is future. The Lord reveals in Rev. 18: 21 (& Rev. 16: 19) that it is at the end of the tribulation that Babylon is destroyed.

Yes.....at the end Babylon will be destroyed.

However, the Bible says in Jeremiah 50:39
"So the desert creatures and hyenas will live there [Babylon] and ostriches will dwell there. It [Babylon] will never again be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation."

Now, I said.......
" If the servants of Allah can managed to rebuild Babylon, these prophetic words are false, and God of Israel will be proven a false God."

What we have here is a failure to correctly Identify who and where Babylon is.

It is my understanding that YOU are saying that the ancient city of Babylon found in Genesis will be rebuilt and inhabited.

God however said in Jeremiah that it will "never again be inhabited".

Over years, some of the worlds greatest Bible scholars have suggested that Babylon the Great is a figurative allusion to the great powers of ancient Rome. This view is largely held by those who hold to the eschatological system known as preterism.

Others would argue that Babylon the Great is used as a figure of speech regarding evil nations in general.

Theologians have also concluded that Babylon the Great is just that, a revived and rebuilt Babylon which is your position.

The futurist interpretation of Revelation sees Babylon the Great as an evil world system, (Chapter 17) and Babylon the literal city (chapter 18). Many costal cities have been put forward by Bible scholars........
1. New York City
2. London England
3. Hong Kong
4. Rome

The problem we are having here is exactly what we see told to us In Rev. 17, where we are told that Babylon the Great is considered a mystery, naturally making it difficult to identify. So then, the Christian world has not reached a consensus regarding her identity.

So then, we have two choices........
1. Babylon the city, will be rebuilt and then destroyed again in Rev. 18.
2. Babylon the city is NOT the Babylon of Genesis and Isaiah and Jeremiah and is located somewhere else.

Honestly....it seems to me that where this city is makes no difference.

 

[Dave F.]

I don't think we can just skip over the 7 mountains. In verse 9 the angel clearly says the woman sits on 7 mountains.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Also there are 7 kings of which 5 are fallen, this suggests to me that they are past. The 1 is, suggests present in Johns time. The final 1 is yet to come, future.
While the G20 has influence on the world, they don't have full authority. The United Nations has that authority currently. There are some, that believe that New York city is Babylon the great, it sits on many waters, it is the hub of world business and it is where the U.N. headquarters is located. A rebuilt ancient city of Babylon could also be that city, but it would take a lot of changes to make that happen. I agree that immorality will be the norm, which makes it difficult to believe that Islam would be the false religion or dominating power as they would not tolerate that behavior. The false religion and the dominating power will not only tolerate it, they will encourage it.
I believe that Babylon the great is not a location but a system of one world government, one world monetary and one world (false) religion. Just as Nimrod tried to unite the people and defy GOD, so the Antichrist will do during the tribulation.

 

[Major]

I don't think we can just skip over the 7 mountains. In verse 9 the angel clearly says the woman sits on 7 mountains.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Also there are 7 kings of which 5 are fallen, this suggests to me that they are past. The 1 is, suggests present in Johns time. The final 1 is yet to come, future.
While the G20 has influence on the world, they don't have full authority. The United Nations has that authority currently. There are some, that believe that New York city is Babylon the great, it sits on many waters, it is the hub of world business and it is where the U.N. headquarters is located. A rebuilt ancient city of Babylon could also be that city, but it would take a lot of changes to make that happen. I agree that immorality will be the norm, which makes it difficult to believe that Islam would be the false religion or dominating power as they would not tolerate that behavior. The false religion and the dominating power will not only tolerate it, they will encourage it.
I believe that Babylon the great is not a location but a system of one world government, one world monetary and one world (false) religion. Just as Nimrod tried to unite the people and defy GOD, so the Antichrist will do during the tribulation.

Dave.....IMHO, Rev. 17 is about just what you just said......"a system of one world government, one world monetary and one world (false) religion."

Then in chapter #18 is a description of the Capital City of the A/C. IMO,

There appears to be a "fall" - most likely it was complete by the mid-point of the tribulation, when the Antichrist and the False Prophet fully engage in blasphemy and idolatry as seen in chapter #13..

In chapter 18, John's vision shifts to describe the fall of a slightly different "Babylon." In this context, Babylon is a political and economic entity. It is probably also a literal city—perhaps not with that exact name—during the end times.

It's common for a capital city to stand in as a reference to a culture, or government, or even a religion. "Babylon," in this chapter, occupies a place somewhere in that range of meanings. The "fall" described here most likely occurs near the end of the tribulation, probably as a result of the horrific bowl judgments described in chapter 16.

If this is the city-nation of Babylon, in the end times, is not only a hub of commerce and power, but of sin and sensuality, as well.

In the prior chapter, a "religious Babylon" was said to have fallen, but there was no notable mourning from the leaders of the world. Here, however, the fall of Babylon as an economy is met with grief. World leaders will see—probably both literally and figuratively—the smoke from her destruction, and stay far away in hopes of avoiding the same fate. Once again, the fact that this destruction was swift is a key point of John's vision.

Chapters 17 and 18 are "Parenthetical" and depict consequences of the tribulation which seem to have happened parallel to the various seal, trumpet, and bowl judgments. Chapter 19 will resume describing a timeline, including the end of the tribulation and the earthly return of Jesus Christ.

As my conversation with Marilyn, she believes that the ancient city Of Babylon will be rebuilt and that it is in view in Rev. 18.

I am of the thinking that it will be a city somewhere else that has the same attributes as Babylon once had.

Who is right? Don't know!

My common sense says that it has taken New York about 200 years to be what it is now. Rome is a lot longer.....3 thousand and London about the same. I struggle to think that Babylon could be rebuilt so as to reach the same status and power as those great cities with that much influence BUT......anything is possible!

 

[Marilyn C]

Yes.....at the end Babylon will be destroyed.

However, the Bible says in Jeremiah 50:39
"So the desert creatures and hyenas will live there [Babylon] and ostriches will dwell there. It [Babylon] will never again be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation."

Now, I said.......
" If the servants of Allah can managed to rebuild Babylon, these prophetic words are false, and God of Israel will be proven a false God."

What we have here is a failure to correctly Identify who and where Babylon is.

It is my understanding that YOU are saying that the ancient city of Babylon found in Genesis will be rebuilt and inhabited.

God however said in Jeremiah that it will "never again be inhabited".

Over years, some of the worlds greatest Bible scholars have suggested that Babylon the Great is a figurative allusion to the great powers of ancient Rome. This view is largely held by those who hold to the eschatological system known as preterism.

Others would argue that Babylon the Great is used as a figure of speech regarding evil nations in general.

Theologians have also concluded that Babylon the Great is just that, a revived and rebuilt Babylon which is your position.

The futurist interpretation of Revelation sees Babylon the Great as an evil world system, (Chapter 17) and Babylon the literal city (chapter 18). Many costal cities have been put forward by Bible scholars........
1. New York City
2. London England
3. Hong Kong
4. Rome

The problem we are having here is exactly what we see told to us In Rev. 17, where we are told that Babylon the Great is considered a mystery, naturally making it difficult to identify. So then, the Christian world has not reached a consensus regarding her identity.

So then, we have two choices........
1. Babylon the city, will be rebuilt and then destroyed again in Rev. 18.
2. Babylon the city is NOT the Babylon of Genesis and Isaiah and Jeremiah and is located somewhere else.

Honestly....it seems to me that where this city is makes no difference.

I do think it is important for it is in God`s word.

Now in Jer. 51: 63 & 64 as I previously posted it shows how the city of Babylon will get destroyed - like a stone throne into the water.
Then in Rev. 18: 21 the same picture is shown. Thus, Babylon will be rebuilt and then finally destroyed. Only one choice - God`s word and how He will deal with Babylon.

 

[Marilyn C]

I don't think we can just skip over the 7 mountains. In verse 9 the angel clearly says the woman sits on 7 mountains.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Also there are 7 kings of which 5 are fallen, this suggests to me that they are past. The 1 is, suggests present in Johns time. The final 1 is yet to come, future.
While the G20 has influence on the world, they don't have full authority. The United Nations has that authority currently. There are some, that believe that New York city is Babylon the great, it sits on many waters, it is the hub of world business and it is where the U.N. headquarters is located. A rebuilt ancient city of Babylon could also be that city, but it would take a lot of changes to make that happen. I agree that immorality will be the norm, which makes it difficult to believe that Islam would be the false religion or dominating power as they would not tolerate that behavior. The false religion and the dominating power will not only tolerate it, they will encourage it.
I believe that Babylon the great is not a location but a system of one world government, one world monetary and one world (false) religion. Just as Nimrod tried to unite the people and defy GOD, so the Antichrist will do during the tribulation.

`The 7 mountains on which the woman sits. They are also 7 kings.` (Rev. 17: 9 & 10) God is interpreting the symbolic picture. Heads = leaders.

The UN does not have any authority except influence by their religion. The UN is controlled by the USA, and a few others.

I agree that the final Gentile World Government is - Political, Economic and religious. The timing of Rev. 17 is in the trib. The beast/Satan comes out of the pit, meaning he is given a certain time to wreak havoc on the earth. (Rev. 17: 8)

It may seem as if New York is the center, however that is just the outward picture. The real economic power is with the IMF and the BIS (Bank for International settlements). Those two control the nation`s finances. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) is the LOL (Lender of Last Resort).

 

[Marilyn C]

Dave.....IMHO, Rev. 17 is about just what you just said......"a system of one world government, one world monetary and one world (false) religion."

.....

My common sense says that it has taken New York about 200 years to be what it is now. Rome is a lot longer.....3 thousand and London about the same. I struggle to think that Babylon could be rebuilt so as to reach the same status and power as those great cities with that much influence BUT......anything is possible!

And Major, who is set up for the one world monetary system - the IMF.

As to rebuilding the city of Babylon in Iraq. It has already been going on for a decade or so, (by the USA, and World`s Monuments). And have you taken a look at the UAE, Dubai, etc cities that have literally come out of the sand to world status in a few years. Literally amazing.

 

[Major]

And Major, who is set up for the one world monetary system - the IMF.

As to rebuilding the city of Babylon in Iraq. It has already been going on for a decade or so, (by the USA, and World`s Monuments). And have you taken a look at the UAE, Dubai, etc cities that have literally come out of the sand to world status in a few years. Literally amazing.

We are agreeing. It is well known that the whole world is moving toward a cashless society.

Personally I believe that the UPC Bar Code is the key to understanding how that can happen.

Yes....those areas are well known and established.

How do you understand Isiah 13:19-22 which provide a vivid description of it’s future desolation:
“And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, The beauty of the Chaldeans’ pride, Will be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. It will never be inhabited, Nor will it be settled from generation to generation; Nor will the Arabian pitch tents there, Nor will the shepherds make their sheepfolds there. But wild beasts of the desert will lie there, And their houses will be full of owls; Ostriches will dwell there, And wild goats will caper there. The hyenas will howl in their citadels, And jackals in their pleasant palaces. Her time is near to come, And her days will not be prolonged.”

Jeremiah 50:39-40 echoes the themes found in Isaiah’s prophecies:
“Therefore the wild desert beasts shall dwell there with the jackals, And the ostriches shall dwell in it. It shall be inhabited no more forever, Nor shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation. As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah And their neighbors,” says the Lord, “So no one shall reside there, Nor son of man dwell in it.”

I do not argue your idea, I just wonder how you reconcile those Scriptures to your insistence on Babylon being a rebuilt city.

Now, I would also add here......is it possible that a city close to but not on the same archeologic site as ancient Babylon to develop and then be destroyed????

 

[Major]

I do think it is important for it is in God`s word.

Now in Jer. 51: 63 & 64 as I previously posted it shows how the city of Babylon will get destroyed - like a stone throne into the water.
Then in Rev. 18: 21 the same picture is shown. Thus, Babylon will be rebuilt and then finally destroyed. Only one choice - God`s word and how He will deal with Babylon.

I understand what you are saying sister....but those Old Test. Scriptures do not suggest Babylon being rebuilt. They say the opposite.....3
"Never to be inhabited".

It seems to me that you are theorizing the fact that the Revelation says a "Babylon" city will be destroyed into the fact that to be destroyed it MUST BE BUILT.

Isn't that "reading into" the Scriptures something that is not there.?

 

[Marilyn C]

I understand what you are saying sister....but those Old Test. Scriptures do not suggest Babylon being rebuilt. They say the opposite.....3
"Never to be inhabited".

It seems to me that you are theorizing the fact that the Revelation says a "Babylon" city will be destroyed into the fact that to be destroyed it MUST BE BUILT.

Isn't that "reading into" the Scriptures something that is not there.?

Now I don`t think you do understand what I am saying. So, I`ll try again and hope we can both agree on God`s word.

Now you mentioned (in your other post) Isa. 13:19 - 22 and Jer. 50: 39 - 40. Both are saying that Babylon will not be inhabited. We both agree there. And throughout history we know that Babylon was overrun a few times and eventually not the center of the world's affairs. However, people still lived there and even today Arabs dwell there and farm there.

So, the question is WHEN will Babylon be uninhabited

`...from generation to generation; nor will the Arabian pitch tents there...` (Isa. 13: 20 Jer. 50: 39)

God`s word tells us -

`So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that would come upon Babylon, all these words that are written against Babylon. And Jeremiah said to Saraiah, "When you arrive in Babylon and see it, and read all these words, then you shall say, "O LORD, you have spoken against this place to cut it off, so that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but it shall be desolate for ever."

Now it shall be, when you have finished reading this book, that you shall tie a stone to it and throw it out into the Euphrates. Then you shall say, "Thus Babylon shall sink and not rise from the catastrophe that I will bring upon her. And they shall be weary." Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.` (Jer. 51: 60 - 64)


`Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged her! Then a mighty angel took a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found any more.` (Rev. 18: 20 & 21)

Babylon will be destroyed from a great catastrophe as God said. So, what is that?

`And the kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, `Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.` (Rev. 18: 9 & 10)

God will destroy the city of Babylon with fire. And that will be near the end of the tribulation.

 

[Major]

Now I don`t think you do understand what I am saying. So, I`ll try again and hope we can both agree on God`s word.

Now you mentioned (in your other post) Isa. 13:19 - 22 and Jer. 50: 39 - 40. Both are saying that Babylon will not be inhabited. We both agree there. And throughout history we know that Babylon was overrun a few times and eventually not the center of the world's affairs. However, people still lived there and even today Arabs dwell there and farm there.

So, the question is WHEN will Babylon be uninhabited

`...from generation to generation; nor will the Arabian pitch tents there...` (Isa. 13: 20 Jer. 50: 39)

God`s word tells us -

`So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that would come upon Babylon, all these words that are written against Babylon. And Jeremiah said to Saraiah, "When you arrive in Babylon and see it, and read all these words, then you shall say, "O LORD, you have spoken against this place to cut it off, so that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but it shall be desolate for ever."

Now it shall be, when you have finished reading this book, that you shall tie a stone to it and throw it out into the Euphrates. Then you shall say, "Thus Babylon shall sink and not rise from the catastrophe that I will bring upon her. And they shall be weary." Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.` (Jer. 51: 60 - 64)


`Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged her! Then a mighty angel took a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found any more.` (Rev. 18: 20 & 21)

Babylon will be destroyed from a great catastrophe as God said. So, what is that?

`And the kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, `Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.` (Rev. 18: 9 & 10)

God will destroy the city of Babylon with fire. And that will be near the end of the tribulation.

I understand your thesis completely. I agree that we must always accept the Word of God as our authority.
Actually, I hate talking about thigs such as this because just as the Bible says...."Babylon is a MYSTERY".
That means we do not know and probably will never know. So it becomes a conversation about manusha.

Having said that, allow me to point something out.

Our conversation centers around two words..."FINAL FALL".

You are saying that "After the FINAL FALL" there will Never Again be any Inhabitants.

Can you....will you post the Scriptures from the Word of God that say "After the FINAL FALL" ????

Isaiah 13:20 says and we agreed that we would accept the Word of God as our authority we read.......
"It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation".

By using and believing in the phrase....."After the FINAL FALL", aren't you reading into the Word of God what you want it to say.

Now, I may be completely wrong here in this, but it seems to me that you are saying that the complete absence of Inhabitants at Babylon has never occurred. ...Therefore, Babylon's FINAL FALL is yet to happen in the Future.

 

[Marilyn C]

I understand your thesis completely. I agree that we must always accept the Word of God as our authority.
Actually, I hate talking about thigs such as this because just as the Bible says...."Babylon is a MYSTERY".
That means we do not know and probably will never know. So it becomes a conversation about manusha.

Having said that, allow me to point something out.

Our conversation centers around two words..."FINAL FALL".

You are saying that "After the FINAL FALL" there will Never Again be any Inhabitants.

Can you....will you post the Scriptures from the Word of God that say "After the FINAL FALL" ????

Isaiah 13:20 says and we agreed that we would accept the Word of God as our authority we read.......
"It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation".

By using and believing in the phrase....."After the FINAL FALL", aren't you reading into the Word of God what you want it to say.

Now, I may be completely wrong here in this, but it seems to me that you are saying that the complete absence of Inhabitants at Babylon has never occurred. ...Therefore, Babylon's FINAL FALL is yet to happen in the Future.

God`s word always interprets itself. So the `mystery` is revealed as we read more of His word.

Now you are injecting your words into the discussion - `final fall.` That indicates there were many falls of Babylon. History does not reveal that. It was over time that the great city of Babylon lost its power, but it was still inhabited. even today there are Arabs living and working in Babylon.

And after you have written YOUR words injected into the discussion you are turning to me and saying -

By using and believing in the phrase....."After the FINAL FALL", aren't you reading into the Word of God what you want it to say.

Remember it was YOU who coined that phrase - `Final Fall.`

 

[Marilyn C]

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