The judgment seat of Christ: Dividing wheat from tares by works.

[Major]

Because man doesn't have to be tempted by the devil, in order to sin against God. We can have our own lust tempt us against God, the same way Lucifer tempted Himself to first rebel.

Isa 14:12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:

Jas 1:13Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
I.e. we can't blame the devil, and especially not God, but only ourselves for our own lust and sinful disobedience.

The millennium will prove once for all, that man created in God's image has power to love or rebel against the Lord, under the best conditions for doing good, where the only leadership is Jesus Christ the righteous Himself, and His resurrected saints.

Many still haven't learned that lesson from Adam and Eve, who transgressed the commandment in the garden of God, where the LORD Himself walked in the cool of the day...




No, you understand well enough, and hopefully I've answered your legitimate question about why some people continue to disobey God, even when the devil has nothing to do with it.

However, I did not say he will have no influence in rounding up the rebellious for one final war with God. And that will only include those, as you say, who had already become His enemies by their own lust.

They will remain alive and not executed by the King's law, because they outwardly obeyed in works, though rebelling against Him in the heart.

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess...Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

I agree with you in that the devil isn’t directly responsible for every temptation we face, nor can we blame him when we give in and do wrong. Temptations come to us in many ways—but when we give in to them, we alone are responsible for what we’ve done. The Bible says in James 1:14...........“Each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed”.

We need to remember that it isn’t a sin to be tempted; even Jesus was tempted by the devil to turn away from God’s plan (see Matthew 4:1-11). But it is sin to give in to temptation and go our own way instead of God’s way.

 

[Major]

The Bible says we will know a true believer by their fruit. If someone is continually committing evil , living a life of sin, are they a Christian, if there is no evidence of transformation?

We will know a Christian when we see/observe a changed life.

If a person says that they are saved but continue to live in Known/Habitual sin, then they are not saved.

Your question is actually a paradox that reflects the complementary tension we all find ourselves in. We should all know, however some follow false Bible teachers, we as Christians still sin after we are saved. That is because of the sin nature we are born with which never goes away until be receive glorified bodies.

1 John 1:8-10 is as clear as if God said yesterday......
"“If we say we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”

So then, we/you, we all need to understand that the Christian life is inherently cyclical. We stumble, we repent, we seek and receive God’s forgiveness, and then we strive for greater obedience. This pattern of falling and rising, seeking forgiveness and pursuing holiness, characterizes the believer’s walk until we reach eternity.

1 John 3:6 has over the years been misunderstood and has lead to a false teaching of "Sinlessness" for the Christian..........
“Everyone who remains in Him does not sin. Everyone who sins has not seen Him or known Him.”

At first glance, this verse might seem to contradict the reality of sin in the believer’s life. However, most biblical scholars agree that when John says, “Everyone who remains in Him does not sin,” he’s referring to a continual, unrepentant lifestyle of sin.
The Greek verb tense here implies ongoing action so then A more accurate rendering would be.....
“Everyone who remains in Him does not continue sinning habitually.””

 

[Godhelpus]

The Bible says we will know a true believer by their fruit.

Where in Scripture, does the Lord ever speak of 'true' believers? He doesn't. In Scripture, there are only believers or unbelievers. Those confessing faith in Christ, or not.

I've given the Scripture showing that even Christians doing evil, or still called Christians. Did you read it?

1Pe 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

Here's another Scripture saying the same thing about who is called a brother or not:

1Co 5:11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

In Scripture, even if we are forbidden to keep company with a Christian, he is still called a brother. That includes counting him as a brother, and not a non-believer:

2Th 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

If someone is continually committing evil , living a life of sin, are they a Christian, if there is no evidence of transformation?

If anyone naming Christ fails to be acceptably transformed for the Lord, then only the Lord has the right and the power to make that call.

Jas 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

We are specifically forbidden the right to judge who is a brother or not.

According to the Scripture, anyone confessing faith in Christ is to be called a Christian, counted as a brother, and not judged to be an unbeliever.

If any Christian wants to start judging who is to be called a believer or not, for doctrinal purposes alone, in order to doctrinally forbid them their rightful appearance at the Lord's own judgment seat, then it's not Scriptural, or God, nor done by the Lord. And of course, it won't work.

The Lord will certainly have all His people standing at His judgment seat, and He calls anyone confessing faith in Him, a believer and a Christian.

 

[Godhelpus]

I agree with you in that the devil isn’t directly responsible for every temptation we face, nor can we blame him when we give in and do wrong. Temptations come to us in many ways—but when we give in to them, we alone are responsible for what we’ve done. The Bible says in James 1:14...........“Each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed”.

We need to remember that it isn’t a sin to be tempted; even Jesus was tempted by the devil to turn away from God’s plan (see Matthew 4:1-11). But it is sin to give in to temptation and go our own way instead of God’s way.

Exactly. Believing the truth is believing the gospel. The truth is that we alone are responsible and accountable for sinning against God. No matter the circumstance, God does not deserve it.

James 1 also rebukes the lie that God is the reason man does evil:

Jas 1:13Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Anyone saying we do wrong, because God made us that way, is lying to themselves first, and also falsely accusing God.

And though the devil is the first accuser of God, it's not his fault if any man does so.

 

[Major]

Where in Scripture, does the Lord ever speak of 'true' believers? He doesn't. In Scripture, there are only believers or unbelievers. Those confessing faith in Christ, or not.

I've given the Scripture showing that even Christians doing evil, or still called Christians. Did you read it?

1Pe 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

Here's another Scripture saying the same thing about who is called a brother or not:

1Co 5:11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

In Scripture, even if we are forbidden to keep company with a Christian, he is still called a brother. That includes counting him as a brother, and not a non-believer:

2Th 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.





If anyone naming Christ fails to be acceptably transformed for the Lord, then only the Lord has the right and the power to make that call.

Jas 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

We are specifically forbidden the right to judge who is a brother or not.

According to the Scripture, anyone confessing faith in Christ is to be called a Christian, counted as a brother, and not judged to be an unbeliever.

If any Christian wants to start judging who is to be called a believer or not, for doctrinal purposes alone, in order to doctrinally forbid them their rightful appearance at the Lord's own judgment seat, then it's not Scriptural, or God, nor done by the Lord. And of course, it won't work.

The Lord will certainly have all His people standing at His judgment seat, and He calls anyone confessing faith in Him, a believer and a Christian.

I understand what you are saying, however we make determinations based on what we observe.

Isnt that exactly why God used the words He used in Matthew 7:21-24?

Jesus says in Matthew 7:1.......
“Do not judge, that you may not be judged.”

From this statement one might conclude that judging is prohibited, but in the next verse the context helps us understand that the passage is not a prohibition. Rather it is a warning: “For in the way that you measure, it will be measured to you” (Matt. 7:2).

Later on in 1 Corth. 5:3 Paul helps us understand, in a context directly related to the church, believers’ appropriate use of judging. I

n 1 Corinthians (2:14-3:3), Paul is rebuking the Corinthians for walking as fleshly rather than as spiritual men, and expressing that in specific immoralities and wrong response to those immoralities. Paul goes so far as to specifically say that he has judged the one engaging in such immorality (5:3).

"The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? "(ESV, 1 Cor. 2:14–3:3)
Clearly Paul did not take Jesus’ words as a complete prohibition of any kind of judgment.
Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 provide a clear paradigm for believers to follow:..............
"For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

Wouldn't you agree here that Paul wants the Corinthians in that church not to associate with those who call themselves believers but then engage in immorality, covetousness, idolatry, reviling, drunkenness, swindling, etc. (1 Cor. 5:11). How else can that be done unless those in that church made deterinations based on observations of those who said they were believers but the actions/fruit proved otherwise.

To "me" It is clear that believers are to judge the actions of other believers, and this judgment is to effect whether or not fellowship is appropriate.

1 Corthn. 5:11 goes even deeper.........
"But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one."
It is impossible to follow those instructions unless one make an observed judgment.

Now, and more importantly, to support what you are saying, Paul does not tell believers to judge whether or not these people are actual believers. In other words, the judgment is regarding actions—practice, and not position.
Consequently, we need to be very careful not to judge whether someone is actually a believer or not—only God can make that judgment.

 

[cocoa]

If any Christian wants to start judging who is to be called a believer or not, for doctrinal purposes alone, in order to doctrinally forbid them their rightful appearance at the Lord's own judgment seat, then it's not Scriptural, or God, nor done by the Lord. And of course, it won't work.

This leaves room for heresy. Mormons claim to be Christians, by what you've said they are to be treated as such. Their doctrine is heretical.

True story, back in college, my boyfriend and I got invited to a movie night by at church by a class mate. Us both bring Christian, agreed, and later it turns out that we had been invited to a Mormon church. This was right when they changed their name to the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints. I had heard of Mormons but didn't know that LDS was. We fellowshiped and prayed with them and we were not to, because they aren't true believers.

The Bible may not specify in phrase "true believer" but not everyone claiming to be Christian is a Christian.

I know to ask more questions, now.

Edit: grammar mistakes

 

[forgiven61]

The Bible says we will know a true believer by their fruit. If someone is continually committing evil , living a life of sin, are they a Christian, if there is no evidence of transformation?

your exactly correct

 

[forgiven61]

The Bible may not specify in phrase "true believer" but not everyone claiming to be Christian is a Christian.

true is wheat fake is tares i use the word true alot also and stand by it. jesus says verily verily which means truly so the words true believer has to stand..

This leaves room for heresy. Mormons claim to be Christians, by what you've said they are to be treated as such. Their doctrine is heretical.

True story, back in college, my boyfriend and I got invited to a movie night by at church by a class mate. Us both bring Christian, agreed, and later it turns out that we had been invited to a Mormon church. This was right when they changed their name to the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints. I had heard of Mormons but didn't know that LDS was. We fellowshiped and prayed with them and we were not to, because they aren't true believers.

The Bible may not specify in phrase "true believer" but not everyone claiming to be Christian is a Christian.

I know to ask more questions, now.

Edit: grammar mistakes

mormons has a form of Godliness plus they have another /different gospel

 

[Major]

This leaves room for heresy. Mormons claim to be Christians, by what you've said they are to be treated as such. Their doctrine is heretical.

True story, back in college, my boyfriend and I got invited to a movie night by at church by a class mate. Us both bring Christian, agreed, and later it turns out that we had been invited to a Mormon church. This was right when they changed their name to the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints. I had heard of Mormons but didn't know that LDS was. We fellowshiped and prayed with them and we were not to, because they aren't true believers.

The Bible may not specify in phrase "true believer" but not everyone claiming to be Christian is a Christian.

I know to ask more questions, now.

Edit: grammar mistakes

Yes....correct.

Mormons are not Christians even if they say that they are. By their own words Mormonism not only rejects historic orthodox Christianity, the entire religion is based on the need for such repudiation.

So while Mormons affirm the Bible, they by their own words do not accept it as the final Word of God and they also affirm the inspiration of the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.

According to Mormon theology, men and women are the spirit sons and daughters of God. That means that according to their own words, Mother God and Father God have relations and as a result we live in a premortal spirit existence before birth. In this first estate we grew and developed in preparation for the second estate.

According to Doctrine and Covenants, “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also;” but “The Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit.”

Some will say that we are not to judge what a man says but God IMHO demands that we "test the spirts" so that we will know what the truth is.

Also, the next time two Jehovah Witnesses come to your door, ask them if they are Christians and I promise you that they will say Yes we are. They are NOT Christians!

By their own publications and doctrine, They reject the doctrine of the Trinity.
JWs claim that Jesus was not divine.
They also teach that the Holy Spirit is an “active force” and not a person.
JWs believe that Jesus is God’s only direct creation.
Their doctrine says that Jesus “the firstborn of all creation” and therefore rightly entitled to be called the “son of God.”
However, they believe that as a created being “he is not part of a Trinity.”
They teach that A relatively small number of people—144,000—will be resurrected to live with Jehovah in heaven.
They don’t accept blood transfusions because they believe the “Bible commands that we not ingest blood.”
They do not believe in going to war or getting involved in political matters.
They do not believe that Jesus died on the cross, but “the Bible indicates that Jesus did not die on a cross but rather on a simple stake.”

There is NO way that we can understand those kinds of false teachings and then say we should not judge what is said as a false teaching!

 

[cocoa]

JWs claim that Jesus was not divine.

This is crazy! If Jesus wis not divine then what good was his death? I knew the other stuff but this information slipped past me.

I had a great aunt, who was about 12yrs older than my grandmother (granny just turned 88) she said she remembered when JWs didn't yet have their own bibles, and they would go door to door with the KJV Bible with verses and some whole chapter sections blacked out.

Two years ago, at a shopping center 2 ladies approached me to invite me to their church... I quickly thought back to my Mormon church experience, and asked a few questions. In short, they told me that not only do they teach God the Father but God the mother... I handed her flyer back and walked away.
Edit: I don't remember the name of the church or what they even called themselves.

Let's keep them in our prayers

 

[Major]

This is crazy! If Jesus wis not divine then what good was his death? I knew the other stuff but this information slipped past me.

I had a great aunt, who was about 12yrs older than my grandmother (granny just turned 88) she said she remembered when JWs didn't yet have their own bibles, and they would go door to door with the KJV Bible with verses and some whole chapter sections blacked out.

Two years ago, at a shopping center 2 ladies approached me to invite me to their church... I quickly thought back to my Mormon church experience, and asked a few questions. In short, they told me that not only do they teach God the Father but God the mother... I handed her flyer back and walked away.
Edit: I don't remember the name of the church or what they even called themselves.

Let's keep them in our prayers

Yes mamn.....they need to be saved!

Church Of Latter Day Saints.

 

[forgiven61]

This is crazy!

yup the entire post has went off course ..i dont know why they keep it open

 

[crossnote]

In short, they told me that not only do they teach God the Father but God the mother... I handed her flyer back and walked away.

Sounds like the Moonies (Unification Church)...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church.
Mrs. Moon is Mother god.

 

[Major]

This is crazy! If Jesus wis not divine then what good was his death? I knew the other stuff but this information slipped past me.

I had a great aunt, who was about 12yrs older than my grandmother (granny just turned 88) she said she remembered when JWs didn't yet have their own bibles, and they would go door to door with the KJV Bible with verses and some whole chapter sections blacked out.

Two years ago, at a shopping center 2 ladies approached me to invite me to their church... I quickly thought back to my Mormon church experience, and asked a few questions. In short, they told me that not only do they teach God the Father but God the mother... I handed her flyer back and walked away.
Edit: I don't remember the name of the church or what they even called themselves.

Let's keep them in our prayers

Cocoa, allow me to say to you with all respect to you, when dealing with Mormons, you as the true Christian will find that it is exceedingly difficult to have a meaningful conversation about their theology. From what you have already said I think you know that.

That is because they have redefined the meanings of all the major Biblical terms so that they fit the Mormon mold. If you as a Bible-believing Christian does not understand this, it will be easy to think that when a Mormon uses a particular Biblical term, he is using that term as the Bible defines it, when in fact a Mormon is not using it in the same way at all.

Nowhere is this more the case than in Mormonism's horrible disfigurement of the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. They have invented a pagan substitute for the authentic Jesus.

 

[Major]

Sounds like the Moonies (Unification Church)...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church.
Mrs. Moon is Mother god.

Many years ago when I first began to study and be informed about the Mormon religion, to say that I was surprised at their doctine is an understatement! Flabbergasted would be a better term.

The doctrinal teachings of Mormonism teaches the existence of both a being it calls the "Father God" and also a being it calls a "Mother God."

According to Mormon publications, the Mormon "Father God" and "Mother God" lived together on or near a planet or star named Kolob.

Mormonism teaches that this so-called "Father God" has many wives, not just one. They teach that this "Father God" came to earth with one of his wives, named Eve, to start the human race. In other words, Mormonism teaches that Adam and God are the same person. What a confused and evil theology this is.
Source: "The Book of Abraham".

What amazes me is that there are real human beings who have accepted this fictional production as fact.

 

[BibleLover]

Many years ago when I first began to study and be informed about the Mormon religion, to say that I was surprised at their doctine is an understatement! Flabbergasted would be a better term.

The doctrinal teachings of Mormonism teaches the existence of both a being it calls the "Father God" and also a being it calls a "Mother God."

According to Mormon publications, the Mormon "Father God" and "Mother God" lived together on or near a planet or star named Kolob.

Mormonism teaches that this so-called "Father God" has many wives, not just one. They teach that this "Father God" came to earth with one of his wives, named Eve, to start the human race. In other words, Mormonism teaches that Adam and God are the same person. What a confused and evil theology this is.
Source: "The Book of Abraham".

What amazes me is that there are real human beings who have accepted this fictional production as fact.

Some Mormon beliefs, especially with regard to polygamy and the Celestial Kingdom, sound like their founder should have been a science fiction writer. One wonders how rational human beings can fall for such things, but then again people fall for Scientology.

 

[crossnote]

Many years ago when I first began to study and be informed about the Mormon religion, to say that I was surprised at their doctine is an understatement! Flabbergasted would be a better term.

The doctrinal teachings of Mormonism teaches the existence of both a being it calls the "Father God" and also a being it calls a "Mother God."

According to Mormon publications, the Mormon "Father God" and "Mother God" lived together on or near a planet or star named Kolob.

Mormonism teaches that this so-called "Father God" has many wives, not just one. They teach that this "Father God" came to earth with one of his wives, named Eve, to start the human race. In other words, Mormonism teaches that Adam and God are the same person. What a confused and evil theology this is.
Source: "The Book of Abraham".

What amazes me is that there are real human beings who have accepted this fictional production as fact.

Sounds like their old lie..."As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be."
Echoing another distant lie...'Ye shall be as God'.

 

[Godhelpus]

I understand what you are saying, however we make determinations based on what we observe.

Isnt that exactly why God used the words He used in Matthew 7:21-24?

Jesus says in Matthew 7:1.......
“Do not judge, that you may not be judged.”

From this statement one might conclude that judging is prohibited, but in the next verse the context helps us understand that the passage is not a prohibition. Rather it is a warning: “For in the way that you measure, it will be measured to you” (Matt. 7:2).

Later on in 1 Corth. 5:3 Paul helps us understand, in a context directly related to the church, believers’ appropriate use of judging. I

n 1 Corinthians (2:14-3:3), Paul is rebuking the Corinthians for walking as fleshly rather than as spiritual men, and expressing that in specific immoralities and wrong response to those immoralities. Paul goes so far as to specifically say that he has judged the one engaging in such immorality (5:3).

"The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? "(ESV, 1 Cor. 2:14–3:3)
Clearly Paul did not take Jesus’ words as a complete prohibition of any kind of judgment.
Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 provide a clear paradigm for believers to follow:..............
"For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

Wouldn't you agree here that Paul wants the Corinthians in that church not to associate with those who call themselves believers but then engage in immorality, covetousness, idolatry, reviling, drunkenness, swindling, etc. (1 Cor. 5:11). How else can that be done unless those in that church made deterinations based on observations of those who said they were believers but the actions/fruit proved otherwise.

To "me" It is clear that believers are to judge the actions of other believers, and this judgment is to effect whether or not fellowship is appropriate.

1 Corthn. 5:11 goes even deeper.........
"But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one."
It is impossible to follow those instructions unless one make an observed judgment.

Well said. Totally agree. We certainly are commanded to 'police our own' in our own churches, even as our own homes. We are commanded to not keep company, in order not to participate in ungodly behavior. We don't glad-hand and back-slap evil doers in the name of being Christians.

Now, and more importantly, to support what you are saying, Paul does not tell believers to judge whether or not these people are actual believers. In other words, the judgment is regarding actions—practice, and not position.
Consequently, we need to be very careful not to judge whether someone is actually a believer or not—only God can make that judgment.

And hear you nail it on the head. While if necessary, we must be discerning about our Christian company the same was with the unbelievers, we do not have the right to deny anyone is a believer or a Christian at all. That is determined solely by confessing faith in Christ or not.

And we have several Scriptures, where anyone confessing Christ is still named and called a Christian and a brother, even if doing evil at some time. So long as the Lord names anyone Christian, then so must we.

All this means is that by name alone, the 'make-believing' Christians also must appear with all Christians at His judgment seat.

 

[crossnote]

That is because they have redefined the meanings of all the major Biblical terms so that they fit the Mormon mold.

Walter Martin explained this by saying, 'They have the same words but use a different dictionary.'

 

[forgiven61]

All this means is that by name alone, the 'make-believing' Christians also must appear with all Christians at His judgment seat

you can if you want . my bible teaches a separate judgement