Here's my thought process: God is all there is. In the beginning, indeed before the beginning, there is just God. So God has to create everything from something, and that something had to be himself. From that perspective, everything is God. There's literally nothing else.
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God didn't create everything from something. He created everything from nothing. He simply spoke everything into existence. God is spirit, so nothing material could be made FROM His substance.
From God, from nothing - at this point it's just semantics.
I am sure you know that the Masons, (Masonic Lodge) teach that God the Creator is the Great Architect of the Universe.
It takes those in the lodge to get to the "Blue Lodge" before they are taught that which means that God did not Create everything....but He arranged what was present in the universe.
Not to be argumentive, but I dont think that is the case.
It may be philosophic but not semantic and trust me........if we open that door we will go down a road that boggles the mind.
The Kalam Cosmological position of philosophy goes something like this.............
1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause.
It then elaborates that this cause must stand beyond or outside time and space (i.e., it must be non-physical and not subject to standard physics). Proponents identify this cause with God or a “transcendent creator.”
Source: https://medium.com/@dlintin/does-ev...om-absolute-nothing-or-something-c67fc2f25057
But .. but ... I'm like a dog that wants to go for a walk and you're closing the door, saying it's time to stay home.
Your response implies that God and nothing are conceptual equals. Did you really mean that God is nothing?
This is the point in a conversation where people often focus on words (i.e. labels) at the expense of concepts. The short answer is there is no such thing as "nothing". "Nothing" contains the infinite possibility of everything. It is the nexus around which infinity revolves.Your response implies that God and nothing are conceptual equals. Did you really mean that God is nothing?
Creatio ex nihilo as God spoke into existence all that has ever been created, as only the Trinity is eternal
God just spoke all of his creation into creation by His power period
Masons claim to not be a religion, and yet have the great Lodge and Great Architect in heaven
No, for if you are correct, then God is Pantheistic in nature
We will end up with the God of eastern religion , as in all are God
I agree with you. We are saying the same thing.
Even the "big bang" theory would have to have God existing, for that matter of entire universe would set in a steady state and need external force to "kick start" it to exploding
LOL..........forgive me please. That was not my intention in any way.But .. but ... I'm like a dog that wants to go for a walk and you're closing the door, saying it's time to stay home.
Nothing to forgive. This thread has likely run its course anyway.
Nothing to forgive. This thread has likely run its course anyway.
Actually, not bad, LearningToLetGo!
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